Today was the 1st time in 5 months since i turned on my PS3, because everytime i turn it on it asks me to update, so i just leave it there for few hours and went out, in the end it updated but i never played it, so same story goes on few weeks after that. So today i decided to look around see anything new, yes another new update, and after the update i pop in the Uncharted 3 i wanted to play for the past 4 months and yes it asked for another 300mb update. Then there's this $10 coupon from Sony that went expired on May, went into PSN Store to check new trailers etc, i don't know how many times Sony revamped the PSN store but it's still such a chore to just get in, browse the store i realize consoles so outdated.

I notice nowdays many older games from NES to PS2 are available for PS3, however i can't help thinking with the arrivial of PS4 and the incompatibility of PS3 games, how many times does a person actually buy a copy of the same game? Say Metal Gear Solid, up from PS1 to rerelease on PSN, HD Collection & Legacy Collection, they'll probably release the same game on PS4. Since it's old system why can't they just implement global emulator like PC so a person buys 1 copy off PSN and can replay it on his PS3, PS4 & PS5? With PC games you only need to buy the game once (or twice like after 30 years).

I also have a Xbox360 that i haven't played much since i switched to PC. Not just because of the Superior graphics but also the controls/flexibility & more importantly great mods. I felt with the PC version you get everything you'll need, even when there's a XboxOne or XboxTwo release in the future the PC version will still be superior just like Tomb Raider, Silent Hill series because they are capable to adapt to newer more advance systems and utilize the advantage.

My Wii had been doing nothing for the past 9 months. Though there's still games i wanted to play on it i just felt lazy. Don't think i will ever get a Wii-U as i don't think i can follow up with it.

In the end the current consoles just give me an impression that alot of effort needs to be taken just to play it, since you can't ignore updates, have no control over the bandwidth it utilizes, can't retry after errors, many saves can't be copied exchanged, felt like unless you take more time & effort you are stucked with your unit, unlike those days where you just bring a cart or memory card to continue your game.

Back then Consoles has always been the leader when it comes down to graphic performance & fun factors, only the super expensive PC cards can be equal to them, not anymore, nowadays next gen consoles already lost to current PC when it comes to graphics, so the only reason one would buy a next gen console would be for the convenience (really???), exclusive games (not that many) & ease of use (issit?) & to be part of the gadget groups.

Back then when PS2, PS3 were launched it gave alot of attention, nowadays PS4, XboxOne is just:"meh, another new gen console". Since they can't beat modern PC in terms of performance, they have to rely more on exclusives.

Some trends i dislike since the introduction of current gen consoles (including PC):
1.Trophies: Make gaming become like a core for those trophy seekers and annoy those that don't give a sxxx about it.

2.DLC: Giving companies a new path to make big profit (or cheat customers out of it) out of small insignificant contents. They never cut the price for DLCs even if it's 5 years old, end up full game cheaper than DLC.

3.Updates: Allow companies to ease off the debugging/QC issues and let users do the work because they can keep patching a 5 year old game, at the expense of customer's time & bandwidth.

4.Digital games: Something that cannot be resold, rarely go on discounts & bargains. Hardly any cheaper than Disc games during launch, and more expensive than disc games when old.

5.Avatars/Wallpaper and all those useless stuff: Sold at Real price.

6.Ranking system on MP: Playing online game is like climbing the corporate ladder nowadays, you start at bottom and work hard to make your way up. Many games force you into matchmaking servers. And most online lobby system for consoles is so bad it makes a good game bad (killzone 3?).

7.Introduction of Online Pass: $9.99 just so you can play online.

Most of these trends are just ways to keep console players to continue paying, and spend more time & effort playing. Updates & maps used to be free for PC, but thanks to Consoles, not anymore since they need to be fair to console fans. Good thing is at least online still free for PC.

I might still get a PS4 just for MGSV & GT6 and a few but only because they aren't available on PC. But my interest in Console have dropped from 90% to 15%.

Right now i felt quite bad for the systems i have & the money i've spent, maybe they would have in better hands if they were owned by small kids who can cherish them more than i do, but it's just too much money to simply give away to.

either you are high or you are from an alternate universe!

some of your comments make sense.

Maybe he come from my kind of upbringing- parent buy cheapo computer from second hand shop because they don't understand the importance of children experiencing PC gaming, cheapo computer is so last generation and only does CGA graphics and plays ancient games like Karateka or Paratrooper, hence even NES graphics look better...

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Aug 20 2013, 12:13 AM

I think I understood what the TS meant. It felt like the console is controlling your life instead of the other way round right?

No, just it's not convenient anymore and getting more complex like using a PC while no longer able to beat the performance of a PC during launch time.

Nowadays it's not just put in disc and straight away play, need to log in PS3 username/Xbox ID, then log on to PSN/Xboxlive, then ask for update on system where you need to scroll a few page click i agree, then ask for update on games, wait for good 2-3 hours, by that time i'll probably have switched off the consoles.

Also they trying to imitate the functions of PC like internet browsing etc just too inferior & inconvenient for example the PSN Store.

And then there's all those reasons i stated. Might as well play use a PC if not for the exclusives.

Well back when PS2 1st launched PC graphics weren't that advance, only the most high end cards are close. PC Games weren't designed to be that great in terms of graphics too.

PS3 graphic was still pretty advance when it 1st launched. PC graphic scan look better but it'd take very expensive high end cards to do so. Also after comparing PS3 Xbox360 & today's PC, i'm disappointed in far consoles gets left behind. PS3 had to lock their FPS to 30 and tone down all the graphics just to look playable, and most of them aren't even 1080p.

Can't say the same for XboxOne & PS4 coz PC has evolved much quicker in terms of graphics nowadays that Consoles already outdated the moment they were in development.

8. you hate updating the games on PS3.

9. you hate the inferior PSN

10. you want consoles to outperform expensive as hell PC

and this is where I stop taking you seriously


True graphics wise, you cant expect a Mitsubishi Evo X to outperform a Pagani Zonda, but the strength of a console game is its story telling. you tell me, when was the last time a PC game has an engaging story like The Legend of Zelda, The Last of Us, Metal Gear Solid, Unchartered, etc? Its pretty regular to see some bloke posting



The age old argument about PC master race vs console gaming, is phooie. Its so freaking old, Obama is already in the White House now. Console developers have to work with limited hardware spec, standard controller configuration to make their masterpiece. Oh yea, PC's have like ZOOMG resolution but guess what PC people are playing non stop?



or



take note that these games are played on GCs worth at least RM1.5k. I guess they are too complicated to be done on consoles.


Do you buy your games? Honestly? You want more, pay more. Or if you dont want, dont pay. You want everything for free? LOL , wake up. PSN is still free for now. You can play online MP until you faint, not a dime charge. Maybe thats why PSN is inferior, because its FREE. Whats your beef then?Your safest bet is to stay with your PC, because MP is free and PC has no games that needs update since forever. No bug fixes, no expansions, the code is already final. Lucky you eh. People with money to burn like us, ah well, we just pay for everything. We get awesome games, awesome experience, not just eye candy, awesome community. We envy you peeps who built PCs just fr the sake of over cloaking and bench marking, uh uh when will those features come to consoles

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Aug 20 2013, 10:56 PM

PC IS TEH MASTER

no wonder ler you feel like this.

Consoles, in order to compensate their lack in performance & lack in exclusives compared to before, came out with many unhealthy ideas which end up affecting PC, since many developers do both Consoles & PC. When PS3/Xbox360 1st launched, many features were still free on PC while payable on Consoles, you might agree on Paid DLC so the developers can continue refresh/support older games but really depends what you are paying for.

Also the Trophy system also introduced by current consoles got transfered to PC, those sudden pop-ups msgs do annoy people that don't care about trophies.

But of course many ideas came from Steam, for example user account & data, consoles merely brought it to the next level.

I buy PS3 for the exclusives and those i want to play online. I'm not gonna defend actions of pirating, but no way i can afford to buy every game and try them out. Used game market isn't that big here compared to USA where you can easily sell off unwanted used games losing a few bucks, nor there is a 7 days money back guarantee.

Right now you are taking me as saying PC is the master race. I never said PS3 & Xbox360 were inferior, at least when it 1st launch it was pretty good system. I merely said next gen consoles no longer able to provide the same excitement because they couldn't evolve as much as compared to PS2 to PS3, and already inferior compared to current mid-end PC. No more Wow factor.

Also the fact that many older PSN games are running via emulators, i don't see why PSN games on PS3 cannot be transferred to PS4 for users that already purchased it. Sony just wants to make more money by selling you the same game over and over again. Mind you even PS2 or NES games on PSN are not that cheap.

TS you feel such way because the current gen consoles is coming to the end of their life cycle, and also the the line between next gen & PC is getting blurred as well

just few days ago I built a PC rig for myself after almost 10 years
and it reminds me of the reason why I ditch PC gaming & embrace console gaming so many years ago
Hardware compatibility, drivers update, software installs, troubleshooting, and lastly... VIRUS, I just left my new rig unprotected with antivirus for a day while downloading my huge game library from steam, and end up with my PC hdds full of viruses
forcing me to do a clean wipe, format & install the whole rig again
then the wireless card acting up, flooding my whole network and jammed up everyone's internet access.
all those troubleshooting & fixing wasted my whole weekend.
then spend one whole night just to download Starwars MMO, then took forever to patch and load and tweaking for best performance

All those issues? you won't find it in consoles
console updates? game updates? no big deal
just leave it running and no need to worry if it's compatible or not, unlike PC gaming you need to download the patch manually most of the time.

PC definitely is superior in the graphic department, and console will be always a step behind as the HW aren't refreshed like PC every few months.

Been feeling it since 2-3 years ago. Still convenient when you compare to PC in terms of Install & updates, but i just got tired everytime i open the console it asks for firmware updates & game updates, which are quite big sized. For PC unless it's MP they don't update too frequent, and for MP games the update usually come in small clunks.

But anyway you aren't building a PC just for Gaming, if you are then Windows + AntiVirus + Drivers should be the only software you'll need. Initial updates can take quite sometime but after that you can update the Windows once a month or anytime you are free instead of mandatory.

Building a PC sure takes much more time than say going to a game shop to pick up a console, but you can always buy a ready made, preinstalled PC which of course cost more & less room for customizing but you only need to do it once every 2-3 years if you have a flexible setup.

I'm not saying PC is superior, and even though consoles are getting closer to PC (even though they are built just like a PC), the software & interface still lightyears behind PC. Just browsing tru PSN store is such a chore. And still you can't really do basic PC stuffs on Consoles despite their performance can support PC like software without issues, and PS3 actually supported Linux. But since consoles nowadays are building their spec like a PC, i see one day console will disappear & replaced by a gaming oriented PC/notebook/tab hybrid whatever they call it. I don't see why consoles can't get software supports treatment like smartphones like IOS & Android are getting since consoles computing power blows phones out of water. That way they will be able to attract more buyers that actually aren't gaming oriented but simply looking for a cheaper all in one solution between gaming/computing/entertainment.

People who wants convenient gaming are stucked with Nintendo Wii-U nowadays, since PS4 & Xbox360 are pretty much complex & advance it's no longer plug & play.

Miss that up,up,down,left,left,R3,L2,L2,L2,L2,L2,right,left,left,select,R2,R2,R2,right,Left start.....

instead of buying that dayum DLC.

1. Back when X360 launched in 2005, high-end PCs were still using shtty Pentium D and 7900GT. PC price/performance leadership is a fcking myth.

2. Console run 2x faster for same spec - thanks to optimizations impossible for PC platform

3. Steam is not good. Cannot control download, frequent re-updates, resize properly during fullscreen gameplay, DRM preventing resale

4. Expensive - a good gaming rig costs you 3k, anything lower is not futureproof

5. Many PC ports are poor unoptimized mess with poor controls, some ports can lag main console release by 7-24 months

6. If you want to do general work like word-processing, normally when you work your company provides laptop

7. Less AAA exclusives than PS/Xbox

8. Any good Steam indie will most likely be ported to consoles, a lot of indies were released on console first then PC

one thing is console will never crash on games... pc will

if money is your concern, Get PS+, RM125 a year and comes with a lot of free games, then you can set your console to periodically automatic update. Solve your problem

For me, I'm beginning to feel tired of the whole video game experience. All I did was press some buttons on the controller whole day long ever since NES, SNES, PS, PS2, Xbox360. I want to be able to do something different.. much like Wii or kinect/psmove but with a real sense of accomplishment to show for in life.

Maybe it's time for me to pick up new hobbies like paintball, archery, shooting range (closest thing to fps games), go-cart, bicycling, marathon (closest thing to circuit racing games) and actual sports

Guess you never played this sh!t of a game called Skyrim on the PS3....

i guess im the lucky one who doesnt get crash in skyrim

Current trend: no more exclusive for consoles anymore, PC wins.

Just keep your money for the PC games.

E.g.
Titanfall available for Xbox One....and its going to release in PC
Indies games releasing in Playstation 4....and its already release in PC
All steam games release in PC and vice versa from console to PC.

Watchdogs - maybe release to PC after a few months in consoles
Black Flag AC4 - maybe release to PC after a few months in consoles
Call of Duty: Ghost
Battlefield 4

ALL PC!!! god damn it. Its like no point owning a console.

Reason to own console: Final Fantasy, Last of us, killzone (I have ps3)
Exclusive library is so few.

REMEMBER WII U? WII? VITA?

Even Megaman reincarnate "Mighty 9" is release in PC (by megaman creator)
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/mighty-no-9

Console Gaming industry is rotting

The console version of Diablo III is damn awesome!


"If, however, you skipped out on Diablo III because you were turned off by the idea of a mandatory Internet connection, if you’ve been meaning to play it but didn’t have a capable PC, or if you’re a total newcomer to the franchise looking to get onboard, this port is certainly worth your time."


"Enough smart tweaks to make this the best version of Diablo III currently available."


egmnow

Hey..those games were blockbuster in those days you know......and also Gold Rush.....

This is what happens when you let stupid westerners make the console and videogames.
Look at the good old days like ps1 and ps2 eras....superb...

Wii-U & PS3 still developed by Japan, just nowadays more Western developers to cater for Western appetite. Nowadays Japanese games really lacking behind due to the fact Western companies are used to making PC games while Japanese are more towards arcades & consoles but nowadays Console games are getting more like PC games for example FPS, Strategy games Japanese got left behind since PS3 era. Even for RPG games they are shifting towards PC style RPG, traditional Japanese RPGs are long forgotten. Only game remained the same is Super Robot Wars but still a Japanese only game.

It's is sad fact that Japanese Films are getting weaker and weaker because they aren't making big money, resulting getting bought over by bigger firms. There's only so few good games developed by Japan, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Dark Soul, many franchise are made by Western Companies nowadays like Silent Hill.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/12/metal-gear...nt-says-kojima/

and forza and gt will never be on pc.

Not a priority doesn't mean not coming.

Forza and GT are console exclusives for Xbox and PlayStation platforms respectively, bad example.

I don't know why we should compare pc to console in the first place. Face it righ in the beginning pc are for office used and console are for games.

But that line got blurred out. But each system stay true to their own nature.

Even today I feel that some games are best play using console and other are best for PC.

Hey the world keep changing.
Now a days even a mobile device can play both PC and Console game.

Maybe mobile device such as smart phone and tablet are the master race. and right now they even do a good job as your personal PC..

I even play a playstation 1 and 2 games on Android phone. And some Nintendo games to.


But I personally think that both system got pro and cons

Try play FPS in console and see how they cheat. auto-aim anyone?

Smart Phone & Tablet master race? I admit they have the edge over PC that they can make phone calls but saying it a master race is funny.

PC for office use? that is so in the 90's.

yereah, and I see master race begging to play console titles on the master platform


my point exactly.

LoL why complaint

Own all console and PC then go on with life

*Bro Fist*

The Division begged by pettition and GTAV too
Honestly I didn't want those two games on PC

PC For Strategic games !! ROME TOTAL WAR 2 !!

own all console and high spec pc = enough said

rich guy

I have all 3 current consoles but Wii not Wii-U and a soso PC that is why i made comparison.

For exclusives, especially for Xbox360 i can really do without them since Gears Of Wars & Halo are the only good titles, and Gears Of Wars getting worse and i have little interest with Halo.

Wii only good because it supported GameCube.

PS3 still has better exclusives compared to Xbox360. Since Xbox360 & Windows are owned by same company i don't see how Xbox360 will get much more exclusives than PC.

And I don't see how after 5 years Sony can come up with much more exclusives.

There are few good Xboxlive & PSN exclusive games but not worth spending $1500 just for them.

there no perfect things in this world

that why u own all platform console and pc

so dont need complaint since u got most of the console and pc so u need to move on with life and play more games

Well i won't be owning all consoles, not wii-u, not xboxone, since exclusives has further diminished. Bought the PS3 because online play was free, not for PS4 so if i ever buy a PS4 it'd be for GT6, MGS5.

A new released game cost around RM130-RM160. If you cant even afford to pay a decent price for a game, then you shouldnt even be gaming. Go get a job. No one is asking you to buy every game. If you do, you are not a gamer. You are just a collector junkie.

And i dont understand why is there this huge fuss about the PSN update. A normal 2mb streamyx can easily complete all those update in less than 30 mins. What more unifi. If you are using 1mb or dialup then just leave it overnight to download all the files. Dont blame the PSN update speed when you are using slow internet connection speed. I find it lame.

good for you

for me for xbox n ps3 i dont like the :

1. Updating firmware and games patch.

2. Dlc that are region lock, means u hv to buy everything acording to the game disc region.

other stuff can still bare with..

hahahaha

Since getting a mechanical keyboard I've basically turned into a starcraft 2 gamer more than anything else.

Now I'm back, but only for GTA V.

Still love my ps3 to bits. Won't give it away, ever. I see a time when I play PS move when my cousins roll around.

HAHA!

Im not sure why we need to compare console and PC.

Im a gamer, my first game is PC game called DOOM, and its fun as hell.

Now Im working and also have a decent PC and consoles, I enjoy all the games that I buy with my own money.

Just enjoy the game, because in the end, what matters is the game itself, not the platform.