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post Aug 18 2013, 09:10 AM, updated 13y ago

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Date: 16 March 2013
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/

or follow good quality arsenal blogs which often have good insight and fan-written articles:
Arseblog ( http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog ) - good old drunken arseblogger who swears at anything that's not arsenal
A Cultured Left Foot ( http://aculturedleftfoot.wordpress.com/ )- decent writeup and opinions
Gunnerblog ( http://gunnerblog.com/ ) - same as above
Goodplaya ( http://goodplaya.com/ )- probably the most accurate player analysis after a match
arseblog ( http://arseblog.com/ )
young guns blog ( http://younggunsblog.co.uk/ )
Arsenal Insider ( http://www.arsenalinsider.com/ )- very pro-Arsene site, but many good articles to read... great weekly TGIF, but not sure whether they still do it or not
Untold Arsenal ( http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/ )- My newest favourite arsenal site written by a die-hard old school gooner
http://www.goonernews.com - all-in-one Arsenal news web
http://arsenalist.com/ - for replays and highlights
http://arsenalanalysis.blogspot.com - technical analysis on Arsenal
http://arsenal-mania.com/
http://www.fbtz.com/forum/index.php - Alternative football forum
http://www.themarblehalls.com/
http://www.asianbookie.com/ - for match's time references

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Arsenal Youth ( http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/ )


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post Aug 18 2013, 09:11 AM

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Full Fixtures of season 2011/12:-
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MATCH[ ]DD/MM/YY[ ]HOME TEAM v. AWAY TEAM[ ]RESULTS

EPL 17/08/2013 Arsenal 1-3 Aston Villa | Giroud 6' (assist by Chamberlain)
UCL 22/08/2013 Fenerbahce v. Arsenal
EPL 24/08/2013 Fulham v. Arsenal
UCL 27/08/2013 Arsenal v. Fenerbahce

EPL 01/09/2013 Arsenal v. Tottenham Hotspur
EPL 14/09/2013 Sunderland v. Arsenal
UCL 17-18/09/2013 Matchday 1
EPL 22/09/2013 Arsenal v. Stoke City
COC 24-25/09/2013 Round 3
EPL 28/09/2013 Swansea v. Arsenal

UCL 1-2/10/2013 Matchday 2
EPL 06/10/2013 West Bromwich Albion v. Arsenal
EPL 19/10/2013 Arsenal v. Norwich City
UCL 22-23/10/2013 Matchday 3
EPL 26/10/2013 Crystal Palace
COC 29-30/10/2013 Round 4

EPL 02/11/2013 Arsenal v. Liverpool
UCL 5-6/11/2013 Matchday 4
EPL 10/11/2013 Manchester United v. Arsenal
EPL 23/11/2013 Arsenal v. Southampton
UCL 26-27/11/2013 Matchday 5
EPL 30/11/2013 Cardiff City v. Arsenal

EPL 04/12/2013 Arsenal v. Hull City
EPL 07/12/2013 Arsenal v. Everton
UCL 10-11/12/2013 Matchday 6
EPL 14/12/2013 Manchester City v. Arsenal
COC 17-18/12/2013 Quarter Final
EPL 21/12/2013 Arsenal v. Chelsea
EPL 26/12/2013 West Ham United v. Arsenal
EPL 28/12/2013 Newcastle United v. Arsenal

EPL 01/01/2014 Arsenal v. Cardiff City
FA 04/01/2014 Round 3
COC 7-8/01/2014 Semi Final 1L
EPL 11/01/2014 Aston Villa v. Arsenal
EPL 18/01/2014 Arsenal v. Fulham
COC 21-22/01/2014 Semi Final 2L
FA 25/01/2014 Round 4
EPL 28/01/2014 Southampton v. Arsenal

EPL 01/02/2014 Arsenal v. Crystal palace
EPl 08/02/2014 Liverpool v. Arsenal
EPL 11/02/2014 Arsenal v. Manchester United
FA 15/02/2014 Round 5
UCL 18-19-25-26/02/2014 Round of 16 1L
EPL 22/02/2014 Arsenal v. Sunderland

EPL 01/03/2014 Stoke City v. Arsenal
COC 02/03/2014 Final
EPL 08/03/2014 Arsenal v. Swansea
FA 08/03/2014 Quarter Final
UCL 11-12-18-19/03/2014 Round of 16 2L
EPl 15/03/2014 Tottenham Hotspur v. Arsenal
EPL 22/03/2014 Chelsea v. Arsenal
EPL 29/03/2014 Arsenal v. Manchester City

UCL 1-2/04/2014 Quarter Final 1L
EPL 05/04/2014 Everton v. Arsenal
UCL 8-9/04/2014 Quarter Final 2L
FA 12/04/2014 Semi Final
EPL 12/04/2014 Arsenal v. West Ham United
EPL 19/04/2014 Hull City v. Arsenal
UCL 22-23/04/2014 Semi Final 1L
EPL 26/04/2014 Arsenal v. Newcastle United
UCL 29-30/04/2014 Semi Final 2L

EPL 03/05/2014 Arsenal v. West Bromwich Albion
EPL 11/05/2014 Norwich City v. Arsenal
FA 17/05/2014 Final
UCL 24/05/2014 Final

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Results of the previous season:-

Season 2012-2013:
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125 years of Arsenal


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'A meeting in coarse cotton,
sixpence for leather and laces.
Factory hardened arms mix oil and mud.
A century and a quarter forward,
Gunners together; battles ahead.
From those first heavy steps;
Men will become gods.'




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post Aug 18 2013, 09:14 AM

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The LYN Gooners
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post Aug 18 2013, 09:16 AM

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LAST 5 POSTS FROM PREVIOUS THREAD:-

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^ I can feel you uncle. sad.gif

Oh btw please if you wanna share Sagna GIF please post it in spoiler. It is horrible to watch. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 18 2013, 07:11 AM)
If i wanted to be this shit i'd support Liverpool... well written hahaha
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Aug 18 2013, 09:06 AM)
LOL...

I never anticipated this result. The worst could have been was a draw but yet AW proved me wrong.

Now I lost the confidence of the team getting into top 4.

Hopefully this will teach AW a lesson or else Out he goes!!!
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 18 2013, 09:12 AM)
the result came out worst than our bro casa prediction, haters gonna hate.
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Poor decision by the ref.

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post Aug 18 2013, 09:27 AM

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#WengerOut #GazidisOut #Spend
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Since billionaire kroenke and milionaire gazidis come to our club no improvement have happen despite the club profit.
Arsenal is football club not a market place to make money.
I am really hoping them to quit being at arsenal.
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QUOTE(haniez @ Aug 18 2013, 09:17 AM)
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Poor decision by the ref.
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Whats the point of criticizing the referee for making a bad decision? What if the referee make a bad decision in our favor?
This is a football game, you can't expect the referee to make every perfect call.
Just admit it, we are awful last night.


This guy has a point, you get what you paid for.



I felt for this uncle, his in tears and anger. #truearsenalfan

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New thread...

#WengerOut
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even anti-Arsenal /k/ didnt open thread kutuking Arsenal, coz its no fun anymore kutuking Arsenal..
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QUOTE(haniez @ Aug 18 2013, 09:32 AM)
Since billionaire kroenke and milionaire gazidis  come to our club no improvement have happen despite the club profit.
Arsenal is football club not a market place to make money.
I am really hoping them to quit being at arsenal.
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Wenger should fark off as well...

A farking American + a farking Greek + a farking French = Arsenal downfall..

#WengerOut
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 18 2013, 09:44 AM)
even anti-Arsenal /k/ didnt open thread kutuking Arsenal, coz its no fun anymore kutuking Arsenal..
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Ohh... And now if we wanna reinforce, all players price tag increased 20% at least.. Everyone knows we are farking desperate now...

Good strategy laid down by The Farking Trio

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First page!

I'm still in Wenger's camp. But I want him to fix his own problem. Last season, when our team need to get fixed, we came out with unbeaten streak until the end of the season. Fix this team, Wenger. I believe in you.
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rumuors are circulating around, that after the game sagna, gibbs, ramsey, rosicky, wilshere, cazorla and AOC has emerged with injuries and might be a doubt for the fenerbahce game.

that sounds terribly vicious for a rumour, hoping that's false
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QUOTE(sickx @ Aug 18 2013, 09:54 AM)
First page!

I'm still in Wenger's camp. But I want him to fix his own problem. Last season, when our team need to get fixed, we came out with unbeaten streak until the end of the season. Fix this team, Wenger. I believe in you.
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same here, bro.
Knee jerk reactions from angry fans.
Everybody calm down and support the Gunners.

#WengerStays
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QUOTE(sickx @ Aug 18 2013, 09:54 AM)
First page!

I'm still in Wenger's camp. But I want him to fix his own problem. Last season, when our team need to get fixed, we came out with unbeaten streak until the end of the season. Fix this team, Wenger. I believe in you.
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thumbup.gif right there with you brah!

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Read aw post match interview. He's right on:

1. Is the 11 that face AV strong enough can win?
2. If ask to buy, who is the 1 that we should buy.

Well, now become quantity issue, not just quality issue. Dunno what AV thinking in the game. Tackle for nothing.
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post Aug 18 2013, 11:07 AM

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Haha.betul la.lame kot tak menang ape2..fans pun dah mengamuk ni..plis AW, compete for the BPL.just spend the money.btw ade org kena bora bora ke?lame tak nmpk kt cni.
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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Aug 18 2013, 01:50 AM)
i see, i started out as a wenger protector and believed in his youth project. when cesc and nasri went out i started having doubts, but still believed. then rvp and song left. that was still okay, but when february came (our usual period of screwing ourselves over) it got frustrated watching arsenal play, totally clueless and backpassing all the time, so i started to want a change. i still like wenger's desire to keep playing the Arsenal Way, but when it's not working at least change something. against teams that pack defence we're always likely to look clueless. always trying to overplay and outpass a team that puts 11 players behind the ball. and when we do make crosses, it got so frustrating seeing poor crosses being put into the box, do we not train crosses at all? of course we do, we're a bpl team, but why the heck are the crosses so bad?

i didnt see this today in the first 15 minutes because aston villa were eager to attack, and left spaces for us to exploit. dont give us space, we will punish. that 15 minutes was totally beautiful, it's how arsenal should play. when villa start to play defensive, once again we look clueless and try to play fancy passes. when it works it looks wonderful, like what giroud and rosicky did today. pity ross didnt score, it was football reminiscent of the invincibles. our crosses were again woeful today, walcott was again invisible, szc was making weird decisions, our defence was left exposed when arteta doesnt play, nothing changed. and we were playing a team who escaped relegation last season. aside from signing players, one thing i'd like us to change is to play direct, esp against ultra defensive teams. get ahead then play as pretty as you like.
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Wow. Have to agree with ur views bro. But I guess anyone watching enough arsenal game and love to see arsenal being successful once again would have had the same opinion. Just hope wenger signs someone good . Although I'm not convinced anyone would wana sell right now so late into te window.

QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Aug 18 2013, 10:16 AM)
rumuors are circulating around, that after the game sagna, gibbs, ramsey, rosicky, wilshere, cazorla and AOC has emerged with injuries and might be a doubt for the fenerbahce game.

that sounds terribly vicious for a rumour, hoping that's false
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Normally the negative rumors are true laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 11:07 AM)
Haha.betul la.lame kot tak menang ape2..fans pun dah mengamuk ni..plis AW, compete for the BPL.just spend the money.btw ade org kena bora bora ke?lame tak nmpk kt cni.
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the problem is that, who wanna come? players wanna to play for a team with a winning mentality..

failure to qualify for UCL will mean an open revolt form fans..
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 18 2013, 11:10 AM)
the problem is that, who wanna come? players wanna to play for a team with a winning mentality..

failure to qualify for UCL will mean an open revolt form fans..
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Laaa gurau jerrrr

Maaf zahir batin hehe
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 18 2013, 11:10 AM)
the problem is that, who wanna come? players wanna to play for a team with a winning mentality..

failure to qualify for UCL will mean an open revolt form fans..
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i'm sure everyone will going crazy that time....
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 01:47 AM)
Arla copy paste blog blog arsenal tak Susah la der laugh.gif
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ohhh no wonder la some of the things you write sound damn different from your regular posts.
too good to believe its from you laugh.gif


QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Aug 18 2013, 10:16 AM)
rumuors are circulating around, that after the game sagna, gibbs, ramsey, rosicky, wilshere, cazorla and AOC has emerged with injuries and might be a doubt for the fenerbahce game.

that sounds terribly vicious for a rumour, hoping that's false
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that's practically almost the whole first team eleven. we're so f u c k e d sad.gif
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Aug 18 2013, 11:24 AM)
i'm sure everyone will going crazy that time....
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everyone is going crazy rite now laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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It will be #WengerOut all over the world if AFC get thrashed by Fenerbache this Wed. Arsene could jeopardize the UCL qual.
Poor decision making to leave squad very thin.
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QUOTE(gunnerah @ Aug 18 2013, 11:26 AM)
ohhh no wonder la some of the things you write sound damn different from your regular posts.
too good to believe its from you laugh.gif
that's practically almost the whole first team eleven. we're so f u c k e d  sad.gif
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Nabeh, I can feel the troll
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chill la dei, i didn't mean to hurt you.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 18 2013, 11:27 AM)
everyone is going crazy rite now  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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now is small matter for me, but if UCL part i think all eruption in earth happen infront Wenger and Gazidis face... i dont dare to dream about that... tongue.gif
not only we lose prestige, but we will lost too much money and be liverfool in year to come...

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really can't imagine the aftermath if we were to fail to go through the UCL qualification rounds. violent riots and protests outside the Emirates stadium maybe? unsure.gif
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hopefully AW know what he's doing. we need a backup plan.
a plan to buy. tongue.gif
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really can't imagine the aftermath if we were to fail to go through the UCL qualification rounds. violent riots and protests outside the Emirates stadium maybe? unsure.gif
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i will not surprise if fan start boycott and keep emirates empty... you see last nite match, too many empty seat after min 80...
Wenger and Gazidis should take note about that
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Aug 18 2013, 11:42 AM)
i will not surprise if fan start boycott and keep emirates empty... you see last nite match, too many empty seat after min 80...
Wenger and Gazidis should take note about that
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the fans reaction are normal.
they have been given promise that new signings will come, but until today we have not sign nobody.
imagine the frustration of the fans, having to pay 1 of the highest ticket price.. watching the team fighting for 4th place every season. yawn.gif
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At the end, we as fans dunno what we want d.

Finally Sell deadwood, team thin... Why no signing
Ask to sign, dunno sign who. Go for the best.
Go for the best, other club dun1 sell, kena hijack. Tu salah wenger pulak.
Go for so so player, y no high profile signing! Tu salah wenger pulak.
First 11 kena Buli by referee n injuries of opponent roughness. Salah wenger pulak why no ironman in the team. So, Shouldnt start with strong 11 n reserve it for UCL qualifying. Itu Salah wenger pulak.

If start with weaker 11, also kalah. Sure wenger salah.

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QUOTE(woque @ Aug 18 2013, 11:39 AM)
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Wow !!! Fellainni is arsenal fan !! Faster sign him !!
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 12:52 PM)
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haha! laugh.gif ....

meanwhile van persie... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Aug 18 2013, 12:57 PM)
Wow !!! Fellainni is arsenal fan !! Faster sign him !!
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I think for the next game, I hope the fans dont bother to go and watch the match at the stadium.that should show the frustations.
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can u tell me ur next fit squad 11 first team starter for next match pls??
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relax it just 1-3. wait after fenerbache game when another 2-3 players injured, then kena 2-8 baru kita beli player lol
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u guys know that arsenal ticket is most expensive and the cheapest one is also higher than the highest of other clubs?

Arsenal is blood sucking club starring Gazidis and Wenger as the man behind. It has been 7 years, and same things repeat every year. I feel pitiful to those arsenal fans who have been buying season pass to watch horrible games.
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Now I started to understand why Nasri, Van Persie, Fabregas and other s leave the club.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Aug 18 2013, 12:07 PM)
can u tell me ur next fit squad 11 first team starter for next match pls??
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epl or UCL game? if epl remove koscielny

szc
jenko/mert/kosc/gibbs
ramsey/rosicky/wilshere
walcott/giroud/poldi

if the terrible injury rumours are to be believed...

szc
bellerin/mert/kosc/jenko
frimpong/zelalem/eisfeld
walcott/giroud/poldi

and i dont even know which of our youngsters are eligible to play for the UCL games. i'm thinking some of the doubtful players are gonna have to soldier through
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wow so fast we already in a serious injury crisis
now what im sure is this following week is gonna be vital for us
new players must be brought in before our next bpl game
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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Aug 18 2013, 11:46 AM)
the fans reaction are normal.
they have been given promise that new signings will come, but until today we have not sign nobody.
imagine the frustration of the fans, having to pay 1 of the highest ticket price.. watching the team fighting for 4th place every season. yawn.gif
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haish..... still too early to judge AW

CL qualification and 3rd September is the day to judge him
no signing and CL = good bye AW
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seems like arsenal gonna suffer what liverpool suffer early epl game last season..... ;o
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 18 2013, 01:00 PM)
seems like arsenal gonna suffer what liverpool suffer early epl game last season..... ;o
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Aw is a manager without vision, if bought 3-4 new players, then this injury crisis wouldnt be that bad
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Aug 18 2013, 02:04 PM)
Still too early. Let see how it goes after 5 games.
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the signs are there already all over the place bro... AW oblivious to the whole suad strengthening team....then give press statement can win the lague with current squad...paper thin squad...no urgency to sign additional players...a few main player got injured...bbut i salute the fans....even with all the stagnant non progressing thing happens in this club many of them still put up high faith n wishful thinking hoping miracles can happen.... stupidity is doing same ting over and over again what you been doing all this time without any success and still hoping for miracles to happen(i meant this for arsene this past 7 years)
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if arsene and gazidis are in this just to make money....they should just quit football n venture into real estate instead...its ruining a rich history club.....
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As a die hard arsenal fan, it hurts to see my team lose. Then again, its a wake up call.

I dont understand why we are getting rid of the deadwood and shipped out some on loan leaving the squad so damn thin. Where are the reinforcements or so called signings from the available funds. I believe signing should be made before the pre-season begins so that the new players can gel in with the existing players and structure.

Our players look so damn jaded yesterday. Credit to aston villa for closing the game down. That's sheer commitment, hunger and desire for you. Funny how arsenal will only play a defensive pressing game when it comes to big matches and as for minnows, they tend to take things slow.

I thought Flamini was training with Arsenal to build up his fitness. Even having him on the team would also be great.

My hunch is that alot of pending "deals or transfers" are hinged on Arsenal's UCL results against Fenerbache.
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The team have been on the decline for a while now. Selling your best players every year and replacing them with average ones can only get you so far. We are already out of the title race I believe and probably looking at 4th at best now. I know it was one game, but it was home, to Villa.

The squad is thin and the manager seems clueless as to how to proceed.

This should have been dealt with years ago. why keep repeat the same mistake? sigh
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what arsenal fans want?

arsenal was never manu or Chelsea to begin with.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 18 2013, 01:11 PM)
the signs are there already all over the place bro... AW oblivious to the whole suad strengthening team....then give press statement can win the lague with current squad...paper thin squad...no urgency to sign additional players...a few main player got injured...bbut i salute the fans....even with all the stagnant non progressing thing happens in this club many of them still put up high faith n wishful thinking hoping miracles can happen.... stupidity is doing same ting over and over again what you been doing all this time without any success and still hoping for miracles to happen(i meant this for arsene this past 7 years)
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Btw thanks for your interest in our beloved team. Appreciated.
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what arsenal fans want?

arsenal was never manu or Chelsea to begin with.
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Actually Arsenal was one of the top performers before they decided to move to the new stadium
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It easier to say when you didn't know the real story.

Btw thanks for your interest in our beloved team. Appreciated.
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I think its just bad timing for the entire squad at this moment. Unexpected injuries starting to pile up.
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I think its just bad timing for the entire squad at this moment. Unexpected injuries starting to pile up.
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mmmm....dunno where to start regarding last night's loss...already excited for the new season even if no new star players but seeing last night's match brought back the reality of the Arsenal squad...i just would like to say to Wenger "you reap what you sow"....i'm truly off the Arsene Wenger bandwagon and really hope this is his last season with Arsenal...hope the board do not offer him a new contract and just offer him a director of football post...even though Arsenal win the treble at the end of next season like Bayern Munich then i hope he does a "Jupp Heynckes" and retire....you can quote me on this...just hire a new manager and start a new cycle....
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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Aug 18 2013, 02:51 PM)
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Yesterday Rosicky shows how good he is. At that age, he's fantastic!
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He was brilliant in his link up and build up play but as so often been the case, little or no end product.

His misses to make it 2-1 or 2-2 after going through on goal were as big turning points as the phantom yellow cards and penalty for Kos.
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Benteke was brilliant yesterday, Arsenal or Spurs should have bought him when he had that contract row.


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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Aug 18 2013, 03:06 PM)
Benteke was brilliant yesterday, Arsenal or Spurs should have bought him when he had that contract row.
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I donno but based on last night, apart from those 2 penalties I saw nothing to convince me that he is worth the 30 million Villa were asking.

The likes of Delph and Agbonlahor were the bigger contributing factors to the win. And not forgetting good ol' Anthony Taylor.
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Are we totally f***ed up,
Now every clubs knows Arsenal is desperate for players,
I am very sure the gonna hook us now, since they know we had 70 mil to spend.
Sad to say this, we had a poor management skill. We always create rumors , but in the end nothing turn up. Well done Wenger and the BOD.
Now you know why Cesc, Van Persie, Song , Nasri left us, is it they to blame or Arsenal management?
Besides no world class player would wanna join us, because we are bloody stingy club.

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 18 2013, 01:07 PM)
Aw is a manager without vision, if bought 3-4 new players, then this injury crisis wouldnt be that bad
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Lets assume no injury, looking at current team, any player willing to come to sit bench? Without a guarantee first 11?

Don't forget the injuries happen after the last friendly with mc & back from intl.

That's why only big signing player will join bcos that assure first 11.
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QUOTE(Unomi @ Aug 18 2013, 03:18 PM)
Are we totally f***ed up,
Now every clubs knows Arsenal is desperate for players,
I am very sure the gonna hook us now, since they know we had 70 mil to spend.
Sad to say this, we had a poor management skill. We always create rumors , but in the end nothing turn up. Well done Wenger and the BOD.
Now you know why Cesc, Van Persie, Song , Nasri left us, is it they to blame or Arsenal management?
Besides no world class player would wanna join us, because we are bloody stingy club.
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Rumor from media, not from arsenal la.
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buy last minute...thinking can save a few million quid...ahahahahh! the player bought oso no time go through pre season to gel with his new teammates...well done wenger! biggrin.gif
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always wif the right players right players.... vavi, no one is better than ur current squad? wif 70million pounds to spend and u can't find the "right players"? u farking wif us or wat? go fire the whole scouting team plz...

all bullshit talk bla bla bla...

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Chill la guys. Wenger has got his faults. But I believe alot of parties have to be responsible for all these to come together. Lets wait for his actions. The club decision is not made by him alone. It could be he is just a worker that obeys the board.
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QUOTE(Unomi @ Aug 18 2013, 03:18 PM)
Are we totally f***ed up,
Now every clubs knows Arsenal is desperate for players,
I am very sure the gonna hook us now, since they know we had 70 mil to spend.
Sad to say this, we had a poor management skill. We always create rumors , but in the end nothing turn up. Well done Wenger and the BOD.
Now you know why Cesc, Van Persie, Song , Nasri left us, is it they to blame or Arsenal management?
Besides no world class player would wanna join us, because we are bloody stingy club.
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Gustavo rather go Wolfburg FC, a team that does not provide UCL, also dun wanna sign for us.... doh.gif

AW go flykite la... enough of ur rubbish philosophy.... if this continue, we are farked...
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 03:30 PM)
Chill la guys. Wenger has got his faults. But I believe alot of parties have to be responsible for all these to come together. Lets wait for his actions. The club decision is not made by him alone. It could be he is just a worker that obeys the board.
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wif his reputation in Arsenal, no way he's just a worker that only obeys the board... if he doesn't want to spend, the board can't do shit about it...

AW > Arsenal

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Gustavo rather go Wolfburg FC, a team that does not provide UCL, also dun wanna sign for us.... doh.gif

AW go flykite la... enough of ur rubbish philosophy.... if this continue, we are farked...
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gustavo won UcL d. what he need now is a guarantee start in first 11 so that he can play world club... in arsenal, he need to compete to start too. if not, y he want to leave bayern. IMO
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Aug 18 2013, 03:37 PM)
wif his reputation in Arsenal, no way he's just a worker that only obeys the board... if he doesn't want to spend, the board can't do shit about it...

AW > Arsenal

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Mana la u get this news man. Cuba la bawak bertendang.

As of now, I believe no one knows what really happened in all the transfer dealings. It could be alot of club is trying to bully us with high prices knowing we are desperate for some achievement this season. Or it could be the board and wenger are reluctant to spend on certain players due to their quality is not worth as much of the money paid.

But come to see the situation we are in now, they definitely have to spend. And it feels like 5 players is the minimum we have to buy to cover and add quality to certain positions.

But I won't rule with conspiracy theories that much also hehe. I'm open for conspiracy theory cos I got some in my head also lol
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 03:46 PM)
Mana la u get this news man. Cuba la bawak bertendang.

As of now, I believe no one knows what really happened in all the transfer dealings. It could be alot of club is trying to bully us with high prices knowing we are desperate for some achievement this season. Or it could be the board and wenger are reluctant to spend on certain players due to their quality is not worth as much of the money paid.

But come to see the situation we are in now, they definitely have to spend. And it feels like 5 players is the minimum we have to buy to cover and add quality to certain positions.

But I won't rule with conspiracy theories that much also hehe. I'm open for conspiracy theory cos I got some in my head also lol
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Aug 18 2013, 03:37 PM)
wif his reputation in Arsenal, no way he's just a worker that only obeys the board... if he doesn't want to spend, the board can't do shit about it...

AW > Arsenal

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I still got a question, why haven't we rob more of Malaga players?

I mean if they sold to us Cazorla and Monreal last season, surely there is more?
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Aug 18 2013, 04:35 PM)
Gustavo rather go Wolfburg FC, a team that does not provide UCL, also dun wanna sign for us.... doh.gif

AW go flykite la... enough of ur rubbish philosophy.... if this continue, we are farked...
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Aug 18 2013, 05:19 PM)
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bro can show us photochopped pic of arsene wenger fly kite too? hahahahahaha  rclxms.gif
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bro, even if it's photoshopped, it's still exactly how the fans around the world felt now...

we can't go on like this... old ppl are sure damn stubborn... old ppl will tell u they have been using their methods for years before u are even born... we can't change old man thinking...

so #WengerOut is the only way........
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Fenerbahce 2.45am on thursday, hmm midweek game, hoping to hear team new on wednesday
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i really hope we dont qualify this year UCL.
if we qualify UCL, we cant win anything with current squad. But it is important to BOD as it generates plenty cash for them, and fans get nothing.
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Must qualify ucl ler. If not how to get better players ler

Unless we got lots of money to offer like Chelsea or man city
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 06:59 PM)
Must qualify ucl ler. If not how to get better players ler

Unless we got lots of money to offer like Chelsea or man city
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dun worry bro... fenerbahce dont have Drogba... brows.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 07:12 PM)
Have u ever considered supporting arsenal?
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all arsenal fans mmg loyal n patient bro....incredibly patient with wenger especially....i dont have that kind of patience.

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 18 2013, 06:22 PM)
all arsenal fans mmg loyal n patient bro....incredibly patient with wenger especially....i dont have that kind of patience.
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So u support who ?
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We dont call this a crisis. Somewhat close to a disaster.
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 06:35 PM)
So u support who ?
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max bukan chelsea supporter ke?

w/o UCL london will go into a meltdown. i dont even want to think of it
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 06:35 PM)
So u support who ?
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 18 2013, 06:44 PM)
Should be either Roman's mafia or the Sheik's oil corp
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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Aug 18 2013, 06:49 PM)
max bukan chelsea supporter ke?

w/o UCL london will go into a meltdown. i dont even want to think of it
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Aug 18 2013, 07:53 PM)
dia penyokong chelsea la bai... aku dah kenal nick dia tuh....
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TBH I don't even know who will play on Wednesday. Even Aneke and Miquel has been loaned out.

Potential Lineup?

--------------------Chezzers-----------------------

Jenkinson------Per--------???--------------Gibbs

-----------Frimpong-------Wilshere----------------

----------------------Santi--------------------------

Theo------------------------------------------Poldi

---------------------Giroud-------------------------

Just hope perhaps Ramsey will be fit then Frimpong CB perhaps? LOL

I expect Gibbs to be okay.

Oh boy, Wednesday is gonna be a nail biting fest. I'd be happy with a draw.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 18 2013, 06:55 PM)
u still remember me trolling 2 seasons back?? im touched  cry.gif
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i'm fanatic football fan, i still not forget what football team supported by my primary school friends... for 2 season so kacang only lar... whistling.gif
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^ wasnt jenko supposed to be able to play anywhere across the back 4? he might start CB, with bellerin playing at RB

or wenger might have better ideas
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 18 2013, 06:56 PM)
TBH I don't even know who will play on Wednesday. Even Aneke and Miquel has been loaned out.

Potential Lineup?

--------------------Chezzers-----------------------

Jenkinson------Per--------Boss--------------Gibbs

-----------Rosicky-------Wilshere----------------

----------------------Santi--------------------------

Theo------------------------------------------Poldi

---------------------Giroud-------------------------

Just hope perhaps Ramsey will be fit then Frimpong CB perhaps? LOL

I expect Gibbs to be okay.

Oh boy, Wednesday is gonna be a nail biting fest. I'd be happy with a draw.
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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Aug 18 2013, 06:58 PM)
^ wasnt jenko supposed to be able to play anywhere across the back 4? he might start CB, with bellerin playing at RB

or wenger might have better ideas
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Jenk cant play on left, as far i know ramsey can play there..
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Aug 18 2013, 06:59 PM)
Jenk cant play on left, as far i know ramsey can play there..
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Die la like that assuming those Wenger say injured cannot play with suspensions:

-----------------------Chezzers-----------------------

Jenkinson------Per-----------Hayden---------Gibbs

--------------Frimpong---------Zelalem---------------

Walcott---------------Wilshere-----------------Poldi

-------------------------Giroud------------------------

Subs:
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My god like a pre season lineup sad.gif
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Put Giroud as our CB la laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Aug 18 2013, 07:06 PM)
Put Giroud as our CB la laugh.gif
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Maybe we use the money to pay UEFA to stop Fernebahce from joining leh? Make our life easier and don't need to think of anything lulz
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Aug 18 2013, 07:09 PM)
Maybe we use the money to pay UEFA to stop Fernebahce from joining leh? Make our life easier and don't need to think of anything lulz
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 18 2013, 07:01 PM)
Bro just saw Koscielny and Cazorla both suspended for Fenerbahce 1st leg. Carry over from last year. And if you read Arsene's press conference both Ramsey and Rosicky are huge doubts
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Die la like that assuming those Wenger say injured cannot play with suspensions:

-----------------------Chezzers-----------------------

Jenkinson------Per-----------Hayden---------Gibbs

--------------Frimpong---------Zelalem---------------

Walcott---------------Wilshere-----------------Poldi

-------------------------Giroud------------------------

Subs:
Fabianski
Bellerin
Olsson
Eisfeld
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My god like a pre season lineup  sad.gif
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we are fuked this game doh.gif
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Aug 18 2013, 07:10 PM)
we are fuked this game  doh.gif
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Thats why hope Ramsey or Rosicky might recover in time. Then our midfield won't look so bare. Both are doubts but might just make it for the match.

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 18 2013, 07:12 PM)
Thats why hope Ramsey or Rosicky might recover in time. Then our midfield won't look so bare. Both are doubts but might just make it for the match.
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maybe Ramsey and Rosicky can sub each other that time sweat.gif
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So... when can we know whether Fernebahce can play the CL match or not?
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Aug 18 2013, 07:16 PM)
So... when can we know whether Fernebahce can play the CL match or not?
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Can we really beat Fernebahce? Lets pray hard, we have only kids for our substitute and they are too young for CL football.
and i hope this stupid AW will not tell the press "Urm! currently we are looking for quality players, and there is no quality players in the market at the moment"
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Not bad.
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anyone watcing chelsea 11pm tonite? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Aug 18 2013, 09:39 PM)
i'm rather go to sleep  whistling.gif
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hmm.gif tu la esok keje kan....but dun sleep late coz of waiting some late night transfer frm arsene laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SecrET_of_RainBOw @ Aug 18 2013, 08:41 PM)
ayam jelly look at spurs squad... sad.gif
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 18 2013, 08:43 PM)
hmm.gif tu la esok keje kan....but dun sleep late coz of waiting some late night transfer frm arsene  laugh.gif
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that can wait till 2 september
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Aug 18 2013, 09:44 PM)
yalor... zz bila mereka nak jual that ape?  tongue.gif
that can wait till 2 september
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Tottenham fans are currently singing: "Arsene Wenger, we want you to stay!"
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f u c k spurs. we'll still finish above you at the end of the season.

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actually got transfer news la

but nothing new

all same old shit. the media is getting boring
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Looks like Spurs are gonna win this one..
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the spurs game wasnt convicing, but the reason they won the game was hugo freakin lloris.

come on let's get that begovic
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soldado looks good. why didn't AW go for him
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dont know. but dont think he is that much of an outstanding. saw a few spain matches with him. nothing much to shout. buying him would be like getting another giroud.

btw, just finished watching arsenal motd. our play doesnt seems that bad. but defending for the 3rd goal is shocking.
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 10:38 PM)
dont know. but dont think he is that much of an outstanding. saw a few spain matches with him. nothing much to shout. buying him would be like getting another giroud.

btw, just finished watching arsenal motd. our play doesnt seems that bad. but defending for the 3rd goal is shocking.
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maybe bcos we only have 3 defenders and all are dying to score 1 bcos we are down with 1-2.
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what's the story with us possibly qualifying to the group stages without having to play fenerbahce? are they involved in some scandal?
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 10:38 PM)
dont know. but dont think he is that much of an outstanding. saw a few spain matches with him. nothing much to shout. buying him would be like getting another giroud.

btw, just finished watching arsenal motd. our play doesnt seems that bad. but defending for the 3rd goal is shocking.
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my take from that game was that we totally underestimate the need of a holding midfielder, a DMC, a midfield enforcer. Heck, Arteta aint a true DMC, but he did do a good job at that position. look at all 3 goals we let in, bcoz someone from Villa midfield, namely Agbonlahor, broke thru with no cover from our midfield..
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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Aug 18 2013, 10:34 PM)
the spurs game wasnt convicing, but the reason they won the game was hugo freakin lloris.

come on let's get that begovic
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Agreed! sczcesny isnt ready
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capoue and paulinho looked decent for spurs. looking at the situation we're in i'd say capoue is a missed opportunity.

kondogbia is still available tho.
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QUOTE(mickeysew814 @ Aug 18 2013, 10:41 PM)
maybe bcos we only have 3 defenders and all are dying to score 1 bcos we are down with 1-2.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 18 2013, 10:46 PM)
my take from that game was that we totally underestimate the need of a holding midfielder, a DMC, a midfield enforcer. Heck, Arteta aint a true DMC, but he did do a good job at that position. look at all 3 goals we let in, bcoz someone from Villa midfield, namely Agbonlahor, broke thru with no cover from our midfield..
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yup. seems like it. middle seems empty when agbonlahor breaks thru
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it will be a make or break 2 weeks for Arsenal..dun think if the worse comes to worst, the bod or AW will leave..if Bod or AW wont leave, maybe the fans will leave..and I mean the fans residing in North London..
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^ Yeah same thing happen when Ramsey and Wilshere played together against Napoli. Both love going forward thus leaving space behind.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 18 2013, 10:46 PM)
my take from that game was that we totally underestimate the need of a holding midfielder, a DMC, a midfield enforcer. Heck, Arteta aint a true DMC, but he did do a good job at that position. look at all 3 goals we let in, bcoz someone from Villa midfield, namely Agbonlahor, broke thru with no cover from our midfield..
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spot on. look back at Agbonlahor's run for the first penalty. there's a huge space between the defence and midfield. Agbonlahor easily ran through our players without much trouble. that's where Arteta excels in our midfield. he's our new Gilberto that provide the wall between our midfield and defence. nobody in our current midfield could be his deputy.
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so spurs and chelsea were awarded one penalty each, and we got punished by 2.

borderline conspiracy!
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QUOTE(ahaksz28 @ Aug 18 2013, 11:00 PM)
^ Yeah same thing happen when Ramsey and Wilshere played together against Napoli. Both love going forward thus leaving space behind.
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This. totally agreed with this. Both are more of a box-to-box MF rather than a makalele/deep lying midfielder. Kondogbia might be a defensive midfielder but i think he's in the viera/diaby mould not a gilberto/gustavo/javi martinez type of player which what we need to unleash ramsey/wilshere creative freedom.
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no arteta = no win. man i miss him d
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^ maybe, but we need a DM anyway in the absence of mikel, or we'll see runs like that all the time. kondogbia would be decent for the job
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suarez/rooney/higuain/michu and so on..
but from the game last nite, i feel the 1 we need most is defenders and midfielders.. @_@

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chelsea's turning it on in stamford bridge. kev debruyne got a great assist.
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lol Hull is my first relegation candidate.
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Rather watch Moto3 race than Chelsea vs Hull City. It gonna be a very one-sided match. For neutral like me it's not entertaining.
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haish need to wait till barca match
cant wait to see messi + neymar combo.....

chelsea match ended so early
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Ok take this news with very low expectation

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...rs-8773103.html

Not really convinced we are going for michu. Macam fabricated news
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 18 2013, 11:44 PM)
Ok take this news with very low expectation

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...rs-8773103.html

Not really convinced we are going for michu. Macam fabricated news
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Michu has been a rmour for about a week now..
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So the whole EPL confirmed with goal line tech already? Our game yesterday also use and now Chelsea game also use.

No more phantom goal la then.
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And Wenger insisted that the opening day shock wasn't down to a lack of summer investment.
'If we don't spend the money, it is because we don't find the players,' he said.
"I am not the only one to work on that, we are a team that works on that and we are ready to buy the players if we find the players good enough for us.
'My job is to make the fans happy, but we haven't lost a game because of that (not spending).
'We take our work seriously and we analyse every player in the world and spend 24 hours a day doing that.
'We are ready to spend, but until we buy players we have to win football games and it is not an excuse not to win the game.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz2cKvuaS8h



Why do I feel like I heard this before... waaaaaa cry.gif

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So the whole EPL confirmed with goal line tech already? Our game yesterday also use and now Chelsea game also use.

No more phantom goal la then.
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yawn...what a terrible weekend to start a new day tomorrow. sad.gif
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QUOTE(undentifyxd @ Aug 19 2013, 12:06 AM)
Rob Harris ‏@RobHarris
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yawn...what a terrible weekend to start a new day tomorrow. sad.gif
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yeah..even worst if we lost the Fenerbahce match. sweat.gif
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yeah..even worst if we lost the Fenerbahce match.  sweat.gif
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alot of Arsenal fans will be praying that we wont lose to Fenerbahce..
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alot of Arsenal fans will be praying that we wont lose to Fenerbahce..
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Are we the only London club lose match day 1? hmm.gif
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if we dont bucked up, even fighting for 4th place is out of our reach...
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Our next few fixtures:

Fenerbahce (A)
Fulham (A)
Fenerbahce (H)
Spuds (H)

Not good
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^ Yep. If lost against Spurs, expect more faiyahh!
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difficult to see the board not signing anyone during this difficult period.
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We will sign players but at a higher price because selling clubs know that we are desperate and they will take this chance to mark-up the price. I sense Fellaini is joining.
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From what I see, Chelsea, MU & Spurs are ready for BPL challenge.

I don't see Arsenal winning BPL trophy. 1 down, 3 more to go!

Personally stop buying Arsenal merchandisers as it's making BOD & AW richer. Do your part to bring down the ego of BOD!


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Fans were asked on Arsenal.com through a poll, who was their man of the match yesterday? (The online poll is undertaken after every game)

Lukas Podolski who only came in a few seconds before the ref blew the final whistle was leading with 32% of the votes.

Arsenal.com have removed the online poll from their website due to obvious reasons. Basically what the fans were trynna point out is that the whole starting XI was shit. Was a bit funny though.

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WE will buy... however I have a feeling we are going to get into emergency mode and buy mediocre players again (quantity over quality wise) in the final transfer windows.
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I think AW and the board had realized they made mistake by going late into the transfer window, they think they can scrap it through until Sept. That's why u saw AW had toned down and apologized after lose to Aston Villa
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I think AW and the board had realized they made mistake by going late into  the transfer window, they think they can scrap it through until Sept. That's why u saw AW had toned down and apologized after lose to Aston Villa
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Lol "AW and the board had realized they made mistake by going late into the transfer window", it happen previously where Man U trashed us 8-2.
Come on, this bunch of monkeys is playing a fool with the fans. Lets see how long they can run for Arsenal, now everyone is starting to boycotting them.
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Empty the stadium.that is how to teach them..if still no star players coming in, we can expect to see cazorla & koscielny leave.
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Aug 19 2013, 08:52 AM)
I think AW and the board had realized they made mistake by going late into  the transfer window, they think they can scrap it through until Sept. That's why u saw AW had toned down and apologized after lose to Aston Villa
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Normally, u learn from ur mistakes. But AFC board and AW havent learn theirs and again making the mistake of going it very late into the transfer window to get new players. Maybe the panic buying will 4-5 players, but maybe 1-2 will make good impact on the team..

C'mon AW, get a DC and DMC. Lets raid Malaga for Ignacio Camacho ke
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 19 2013, 09:42 AM)
Normally, u learn from ur mistakes. But AFC board and AW havent learn theirs and again making the mistake of going it very late into the transfer window to get new players. Maybe the panic buying will 4-5 players, but maybe 1-2 will make good impact on the team..

C'mon AW, get a DC and DMC. Lets raid Malaga for Ignacio Camacho ke
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learnt from mistake? AW and BOD did learn. They know if they dont invest, and finish 4th place will be enough for the fans.

at the end of the day,

4th place = qualify for UCL play off = fans happy (fooled) = $$ in bank acc = owner happy
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Empty the stadium.that is how to teach them..if still no star players coming in, we can expect to see cazorla & koscielny leave.
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That time it will SOS for Arsenal.
I guess it will be one of the worse moment in Arsenal history.
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Empty the stadium.that is how to teach them..if still no star players coming in, we can expect to see cazorla & koscielny leave.
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That probable situation will scare the shyt out of any fans. Heck, I'll even mortgage my house if it comes to that! I can't imagine the Gooners fans feel right now over at North London. Really what a bad week for us.
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b4 all that happen, we might see another disaster this midweek, few days from now, in UCL Qualification against Fenerbahce.
I dont see how we can haddle them at their HOMEGROUND with no proper defenders available, not to mentioned we lost middle stability that carried b4 by Arteta.
With Verm n Monreal already in long injury list, now added by Sagna ( i believe that he suffered serious neck/back injury for that crash) and Gibbs (Wenger mentioned its deep cut, unlikely he gonna be ready for Fulham, definitely not for Fenerbahce match). Now left only with 3 defenders, Kos, Per n Jenks. Without Miguel, we have very2 young, inexperienced backup CB. We got no proper experienced LB at moment, even the makeshift is injured.
Ramsey cant play CB or LB at the moment as he is needed in DM role deputize Arteta absent. Hardly i cant see Frimpong ready for that role at this UCL level. But even so, i dont see Ramsey had done DM role better while Arteta was absent. Most games where he perform were those which he combined with Arteta. In short, Arteta is the key here as he's the one that provide stability in the team.
I saw we suffering from lack creativity in midfield as Jack n Rosicky cant provided those as much as Arteta+Cazorla did. And now with Cazorla not being fit n ready, i see we have big problem. Its also make me wonder why, after some much good run on Zalelem during pre season, he hasnt been included in the bench. Its Gnabry ahead of him but i dont think Gnabry inclusion is justify ahead of Zalelem bcoz we already have Podolski as CF or LW cover on d bench.

Now i wonder what will happen if we r kicked out of UCL at this stage. hmm.gif


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Bracewell-Smith reveals 'deep regret' over selling Arsenal shares to Kroenke as she calls for Dein to return and Usmanov to join Gunners board

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Last December she claimed Kroenke had no passion for the club and following yesterday’s shock opening-day 3-1 defeat at home to Aston Villa she has reiterated her dissatisfaction with Kroenke on Twitter tonight.

Kroenke had pledged to bring silverware back to the Emirates Stadium after his arrival but the Gunners' wait for a title has stretched to eight years amid increased criticism over their spending in the transfer market.

'What a shame the board recommended a Kroenke takeover and paid Rothchilds 3m fee,' Bracewell-Smith wrote.

'And how deeply I regret selling to Kroenke. #AFC'

Bracewell-Smith also called on former vice-president David Dein to return and for Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov, who has a significant stake, to be given a seat on the board.

'Bring David Dein and give Usmanov representation on the board if we are to have success going forward. #AFC,' she added.

Bracewell-Smith was equally as forthright in her comments in December - shortly after the Gunners were dumped out of the League Cup by League Two Bradford - claiming Kroenke did not have the best interests of the club at heart.

'If making money was the motivating factor, surely there are better ways,' she wrote at the time.
'Football is a business of passion and SK has no passion for AFC. (Kroenke) shows he cares very little. Why he wanted to be part of AFC I do not know.'
source : Dailymail, UK


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Lol "AW and the board had realized they made mistake by going late into  the transfer window", it happen previously where Man U trashed us 8-2.
Come on, this bunch of monkeys is playing a fool with the fans. Lets see how long they can run for Arsenal, now everyone is starting to boycotting them.
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Can't find any positive thing in this thread anymore.
I'm out of here (for a while).
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buy suarez the non handshaking - biter - pay 50mill and then step down AW.
go wit whatever pride left.
at worst like juventus - win Div 1 for some silverware if really in need of one
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I bet AW didnt expect such a shitstorm from the fans by losing the very first match of the season. AW must remember that fans stuck by him all thru the trophyless years, but enough is enough..
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At this rate getting one world class player for 50 mil isn't gonna cut it.. we need several players to cover fatigue and injuries throughout the season.

We may have to adjust our expectation in terms of player quality for quantity.
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Aug 19 2013, 11:02 AM)
Not everyone.
Can't find any positive thing in this thread anymore.
I'm out of here (for a while).
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Haha betul la..too much negativity here.. i also out..


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QUOTE(Jim2010 @ Aug 19 2013, 11:21 AM)
At this rate getting one world class player for 50 mil isn't gonna cut it.. we need several players to cover fatigue and injuries throughout the season.

We may have to adjust our expectation in terms of player quality for quantity.
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Yeah, now we are lack of players. We need a DM, CB, GK and Striker.
I dont even think 70 mil is enough to buy all the qualities we need.
We already miss out fellani which cost 23m, Higuan 25 Mil and Cesar 3mil?
Now every club knows we are in desperate for players, i am very sure it will cost us even higher to buy any class player now. cry.gif
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Aug 19 2013, 11:02 AM)
Not everyone.
Can't find any positive thing in this thread anymore.
I'm out of here (for a while).
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Aug 19 2013, 11:23 AM)
Haha betul la..too much negativity here.. i also out..
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I dun think any true Arsenal fan can find anything positive about not getting any new players in, losing on the 1st day of the season, at home and having the probability of being knocked out of UCL..
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Aug 19 2013, 11:02 AM)
Not everyone.
Can't find any positive thing in this thread anymore.
I'm out of here (for a while).
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i blame you for bringing so much false positives before this. tongue.gif
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I dun think any true Arsenal fan can find anything positive about not getting any new players in, losing on the 1st day of the season, at home and having the probability of being knocked out of UCL..
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Indeed, for the past 8 years we are already been positive with AW and his philosophy. But every year we turn out to be weaker and weaker and besides I will never forgive AW and the BOD for letting Van Persie to Man U.
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anyway, Gibbs brother already confirmed that Kieran will be playing on midweek. Koscielny's suspension wasn't brought forward from last season so he'll be available for Fenerbahce game.
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QUOTE(sickx @ Aug 19 2013, 11:37 AM)
anyway, Gibbs brother already confirmed that Kieran will be playing on midweek. Koscielny's suspension wasn't brought forward from last season so he'll be available for Fenerbahce game.
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lega aku baca bai..
why not brought forward eh?
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QUOTE(Unomi @ Aug 19 2013, 12:33 PM)
Yeah, now we are lack of players. We need a DM, CB, GK and Striker.
I dont even think 70 mil is enough to buy all the qualities we need.
We already miss out fellani which cost 23m, Higuan 25 Mil and Cesar 3mil?
Now every club knows we are in desperate for players, i am very sure it will cost us even higher to buy any class player now.  cry.gif
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Do you really think Everton will let Fellaini at 23m, Higuain as we know RM in the end fucuk us, raised the price to make other club bid, cesar 3 million? we do you get the price, from DailyMail?
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I dun think any true Arsenal fan can find anything positive about not getting any new players in, losing on the 1st day of the season, at home and having the probability of being knocked out of UCL..
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1. Still got 2 weeks more to go.
2. The match against Villa was a combination of poor display (yes, we played badly, but doesn't mean the squad is not good)+unfortunate event (Injury+bad referee decisions).
3. We haven't kick the ball yet.

QUOTE(sickx @ Aug 19 2013, 11:34 AM)
i blame you for bringing so much false positives before this.  tongue.gif
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Good things come to those who wait.

Whatever it is, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that.

In other news, Ramsey & Gibbs should be fit for Fener game. Kosc & Santi also available (not banned).
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even Casa got a point, we wait until get beaten up, then baru mau panic buying...
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Still 2 weeks before transfer window closes. Let's keep a positive attitude till then, anything could happen in 2 weeks.
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Aug 19 2013, 11:40 AM)
lega aku baca bai..
why not brought forward eh?
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Aug 19 2013, 11:49 AM)
1. Still got 2 weeks more to go.
2. The match against Villa was a combination of poor display (yes, we played badly, but doesn't mean the squad is not good)+unfortunate event (Injury+bad referee decisions).
3. We haven't kick the ball yet.
Good things come to those who wait.

Whatever it is, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that.

In other news, Ramsey & Gibbs should be fit for Fener game. Kosc & Santi also available (not banned).
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even Casa got a point, we wait until get beaten up, then baru mau panic buying...
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the thing is, we all thought AW already learned from past when he brought Poldi, Giroud and Santi early before the season started. words from Ivan also not helped since he said we have huge war chest in June. i think that's what make most of the fans frustrated as early as the first match. yes, good things come to those who wait but history already showed us how pathetic our club could be when doing the last minute shopping thingy.

for now, I am positive that new players will be brought in but how good they are is still remain unknown. for every Arteta and Monreal, there's Santos and Park.
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Do you really think Everton will let Fellaini at 23m, Higuain as we know RM in the end fucuk us, raised the price to make other club bid, cesar 3 million? we do you get the price, from DailyMail?
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Earlier that time Fellani release clause was 23mil?
& Arsenal bid for Higuan 20mil and RM wanted 25 mil? if not mistaken
Cesar I saw it from previous post.
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so spurs and chelsea were awarded one penalty each, and we got punished by 2.

borderline conspiracy!
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lol is that poll story true? wow, the rebellion has reached new heights. difficult times indeed
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What happened to wilshire during his long injury? He looks bit muscular and matured but..

He started to remind me of rooney..and i dont like it ..
He always get mad and like he wanted to start a fight..
By doing that he get yellow card easily -.-

Maybe he also frustrated with arsenal
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I am always positive with the club and the manager, track back my posts here, i never really condemned Arsenal. I am supporting away here in Malaysia, buying original replice jerseys and original merchandize. Subscribing Astro tp watch every Arsenal game on tv. Went to the stadium buying RM100 something ticket to watch the pre-season tour. Checking on the club news everyday on the net. Subscribing official Arsenal Magazine. Get myself on the membership club. Bought my baby tonnes of Arsenal shirts and stuff. And so on..that shows my affection towards the club..i must say that this season is the most depressing season i have ever experience since supporting the team from 1996. Even much more depressing than the record loss at Old Trafford. As a fan, we did so much for the club that we love, show endless support through ups and downs, and stuffs. It was heartbreaking to see the team were beaten like that last Saturday. Yes the referee is a total bollocks but It was Araenal who really not up to it. If a fan can do so much for the club, why cant the club do so for the fans? Why so reluctant to spend some cash that we do have on some quality players? It is so hard to sign one? Yes it was highlighted all the way from June, but nothing happened. I was glad that we finally able to clear most of the players that we consider cntrobutes ao little for the club but as players go, we expect to see new players come in, a quality players. Not just another soon-to-be a deadwoos sort of player. Looking and reading all the interviews of the fans that hold the season pass, fans that actually pay to watch the match in the stadium, they were frustrated, depressed and lost hope. One of the dominant football club has become a newpaper joke everyday. People laughing at us, mocking at us. What makes it worse, Arsenal knows the squad is not strong enough, not competitive enough and doesnt have that fearful images like before. Its not that we are not capable of boosting our squad, we have a big stadium, state of the art training centre, big war chest, extensive scouting network and etc etc. With all of this in our disposal, we still fail to attract star players? No man is bigger than the club, things has to be done to make things right, which is putting the club on thw right track, which is being a competitive football club, once more. Be is by resignation of the current manager, be it a change of structure in the boardroom, whatever need to be done, needs to be done before the once glorified club, sinking without a trace, with only had itself to blamed at.
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yea u guys said i was a twin brother to casa, most of u guys in here are delusional.
Football is a sport not a business, look at man u, in debt but still win trophies...
Finance side let the owners kautim, AW should just do his job as a football manager (buy players + win trophies).
See AF and Jose mourinho, they get money buy players win trophies. Fans are happy.
Fans happy and $ will come.
AW should speak up against the current BOD and not the fans, coward french bast@rd....

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Aston Villa and Chelsea have won three times at the Emirates Stadium - the joint most of any visitors in the Premier League
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The average win % of previous Premier League champions on the opening weekend is 57%. This compares with a 67% win ratio across a season
Arsenal now have 64 red cards under Arsene Wenger - the joint-most in the Premier League in that period (level with Blackburn Rovers)
Only Patrick Vieria (eight) and Martin Keown (six) have been sent off more times than Laurent Koscielny
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anyway, Gibbs brother already confirmed that Kieran will be playing on midweek. Koscielny's suspension wasn't brought forward from last season so he'll be available for Fenerbahce game.
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Earlier that time Fellani release clause was 23mil?
& Arsenal bid for Higuan 20mil and RM wanted 25 mil? if not mistaken
Cesar I saw it from previous post.
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QUOTE(rickrick @ Aug 19 2013, 12:47 PM)
yea u guys said i was a twin brother to casa, most of u guys in here are delusional.
Football is a sport not a business, look at man u, in debt but still win trophies...
Finance side let the owners kautim, AW should just do his job as a football manager (buy players + win trophies).
See AF and Jose mourinho, they get money buy players win trophies. Fans are happy.
Fans happy and $ will come.
AW should speak up against the current BOD and not the fans, coward french bast@rd....
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wrong... it is the BOD who should speak up and force AW to buy, not the other way round...

stamp a season target on his head... a trophy AT LEAST by end of the season or face AXE... can the BOD do this? THEY CAN'T!

coz currently, AW > Arsenal

#WengerOut
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Aug 19 2013, 01:57 PM)
wrong... it is the BOD who should speak up and force AW to buy, not the other way round...

stamp a season target on his head... a trophy AT LEAST by end of the season or face AXE... can the BOD do this? THEY CAN'T!

coz currently, AW > Arsenal

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of coz BOD doesnt want wenger out. Tell me who can replace AW (who can earn so much of money for them)? whistling.gif
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of coz BOD doesnt want wenger out. Tell me who can replace AW (who can earn so much of money for them)?  whistling.gif
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That bcoz BOD r in confort zone. They have "yes man" in AW and definitely AW is in the same boat with them in many aspect n decision. So they can sit happily n let d mgr take the blame. Had it was Mour were Arsenal mgr, they will have dogfight everyday.
Anyway, who they think they could find AW replacement? They had barely handle players transfer deal this season. Arsenal's fame r long ago scratched. Even Luis Gustavo had rather pick non-UCL team than go to us. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(rifasha @ Aug 19 2013, 12:38 PM)
I am always positive with the club and the manager, track back my posts here, i never really condemned Arsenal. I am supporting away here in Malaysia, buying original replice jerseys and original merchandize. Subscribing Astro tp watch every Arsenal game on tv. Went to the stadium buying RM100 something ticket to watch the pre-season tour. Checking on the club news everyday on the net. Subscribing official Arsenal Magazine. Get myself on the membership club. Bought my baby tonnes of Arsenal shirts and stuff. And so on..that shows my affection towards the club..i must say that this season is the most depressing season i have ever experience since supporting the team from 1996. Even much more depressing than the record loss at Old Trafford. As a fan, we did so much for the club that we love, show endless support through ups and downs, and stuffs. It was heartbreaking to see the team were beaten like that last Saturday. Yes the referee is a total bollocks but It was Araenal who really not up to it. If a fan can do so much for the club, why cant the club do so for the fans? Why so reluctant to spend some cash that we do have on some quality players? It is so hard to sign one? Yes it was highlighted all the way from June, but nothing happened. I was glad that we finally able to clear most of the players that we consider cntrobutes ao little for the club but as players go, we expect to see new players come in, a quality players. Not just another soon-to-be a deadwoos sort of player. Looking and reading all the interviews of the fans that hold the season pass, fans that actually pay to watch the match in the stadium, they were frustrated, depressed and lost hope. One of the dominant football club has become a newpaper joke everyday. People laughing at us, mocking at us. What makes it worse, Arsenal knows the squad is not strong enough, not competitive enough and doesnt have that fearful images like before. Its not that we are not capable of boosting our squad, we have a big stadium, state of the art training centre, big war chest, extensive scouting network and etc etc. With all of this in our disposal, we still fail to attract star players? No man is bigger than the club, things has to be done to make things right, which is putting the club on thw right track, which is being a competitive football club, once more. Be is by resignation of the current manager, be it a change of structure in the boardroom, whatever need to be done, needs to be done before the once glorified club, sinking without a trace, with only had itself to blamed at.
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Do you really think Everton will let Fellaini at 23m, Higuain as we know RM in the end fucuk us, raised the price to make other club bid, cesar 3 million? we do you get the price, from DailyMail?
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QUOTE(Unomi @ Aug 19 2013, 01:11 PM)
Earlier that time Fellani release clause was 23mil?
& Arsenal bid for Higuan 20mil and RM wanted 25 mil? if not mistaken
Cesar I saw it from previous post.
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Moyes need a midfielder, and he should know if there are such clause in Fellaini, but why he dont bid for Fellaini for 23million? 23million quite cheap for establish player like Fellaini if it is true about the clause. Regarding Higuain, RM want the money Napoli paid them. Do you really think Higuain valuation close to 35mil? For 20mil, yes we should buy him. 35mil better we buy Lars Bender or Gundogan, for the striker, I want to see Kevin Gameiro...and Cesar, based on his performance during CC, I think he worth more and QPR want more money to cover the loss when they relegate. I hope Wenger will sign 2-3 quality players to bring our beloved club further. thumbup.gif
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It has been confirmed from a reliable source that Wenger is a big time FOOTBALL GAMBLER. Are you guys surprised with what he and Gazidis have been doing with the team for years now? He has been gambling millions each year with the team. The bet on ground now according to the source is not to buy any player but use this set of boys to achieve top 4 spot. I hope it backfires this time on his face. He should be investigated for match fixing too.

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It has been confirmed from a reliable source that Wenger is a big time FOOTBALL GAMBLER. Are you guys surprised with what he and Gazidis have been doing with the team for years now? He has been gambling millions each year with the team. The bet on ground now according to the source is not to buy any player but use this set of boys to achieve top 4 spot. I hope it backfires this time on his face. He should be investigated for match fixing too.

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full of drama and entertainment..pls dont let it stop Arsenal this club is great source of entertainment for us
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full of drama and entertainment..pls dont let it stop Arsenal this club is great source of entertainment for us
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QUOTE(Unomi @ Aug 19 2013, 03:03 PM)
Source? Lol
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First it was Ramsey and then there was Walcott and worse of them all, Wilshere who had a huge 1 year chunk of his career gone, now Oxlade Chamberlain has his ligament torn. I'm not surprised the next time, a youngster has a long term injury. *hints at Gnabry and Zelalem*
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QUOTE(rickysay @ Aug 19 2013, 04:21 PM)
First it was Ramsey and then there was Walcott and worse of them all, Wilshere who had a huge 1 year chunk of his career gone, now Oxlade Chamberlain has his ligament torn. I'm not surprised the next time, a youngster has a long term injury. *hints at Gnabry and Zelalem*
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Surely because of this guy http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/pre...e-29387530.html

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only delusional fans believe AW gonna splash the cash and buy. only 2 weeks left and all available top class players are sold. good luck getting top 10 gunners. 1-3 lost to Villa tho a bit surprising, but yea, u guys deserved it. and not so bright UCL future ahead.
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Aug 19 2013, 04:35 PM)
blame the fitness team
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I mean which world class player would wanna join us now?
1) many injured players
2) always overused players
3) pay you peanuts and high expectation
The club is like a total mess with unorganized management, even if i am messi/ ronaldo i will think twice before joining Arsenal.
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QUOTE(Unomi @ Aug 19 2013, 04:56 PM)
I mean which world class player would wanna join us now?
1) many injured players
2) always overused players
3) pay you peanuts and high expectation
The club is like a total mess with unorganized management, even if i am messi/ ronaldo i will think twice before joining Arsenal.
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think twice? wow, u are confident. i think they will just straight say NO.

and stop dreaming bout world class. u can even get a half decent player now. so much for signing higuian, fellani, cesar, suarez, rooney.

[not gonna put a laughing smily here coz i know it must be painful to u all to watch ur team declining]
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think twice? wow, u are confident. i think they will just straight say NO.

and stop dreaming bout world class. u can even get a half decent player now. so much for signing higuian, fellani, cesar, suarez, rooney.

[not gonna put a laughing smily here coz i know it must be painful to u all to watch ur team declining]
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We have got lots of money..not getting into UCL should pose no problem for Arsenal and the board
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We have got lots of money..not getting into UCL should pose no problem for Arsenal and the board
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Chamakh yesterday played pretty good. Almost created a few chances for Palace to score. Wonder if he is under utilised in Arsenal.
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Btw, Julio Cesar is still with QPR. WHat is AW waiting for?
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we have a terrible chance of signing class players now. if i'm to be honest, i expect a few signings of mertesacker/arteta quality, and a few other signings that will turn out into more andre santos and pcy.

a dream signing would be something like
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with DEF and MID being the most important ones
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Goalkeeper: Casillas
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I dont think we have so much Cash to bring in so many.
Your wishlist is above 100mil there. LOL
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I dont think we have so much Cash to bring in so many.
Your wishlist is above 100mil there. LOL
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better we look weak on early season than after january(typical arsenal)..so arsene need to spend now and maybe add more on january..c'mon arsene tell us you want win something..
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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Aug 19 2013, 06:08 PM)
Cesc, Nasri, RVP left and have not been injured since...im doubting what kinda crazy training regime do we have actually. hahahahaha shocking.gif
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Dulu masa bujang aku selalu pi Carrefour Midvalley section makanan pukul 10 malam masa dah nak closing especially hari Jumaat untok beli barang2 makan dengan harga diskaun around 30% to 50%. Boleh la nak makan bagi kenyang perut sendiri tapi tak la sedap pon

Boss kita pon camtu la kot tengok transfer window ni
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Cesc, Nasri, RVP left and have not been injured since...im doubting what kinda crazy training regime do we have actually. hahahahaha shocking.gif
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Aug 19 2013, 06:17 PM)
Dulu masa bujang aku selalu pi Carrefour Midvalley section makanan pukul 10 malam masa dah nak closing especially hari Jumaat untok beli barang2 makan dengan harga diskaun around 30% to 50%. Boleh la nak makan bagi kenyang perut sendiri tapi tak la sedap pon

Boss kita pon camtu la kot tengok transfer window ni
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Wait a minute, I though arsenal hired a rugby coach as fitness taiko. Why end up all player injured?
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Wait a minute, I though arsenal hired a rugby coach as fitness taiko. Why end up all player injured?
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http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1527128/...ejected?cc=4716

Oh Great News for us!
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lol twitter going crazy.rumour here and there.gonna stay away for a while I dont want to see false hope anymore :|
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^ you should be immune to all the rumors on twitter by know bro, haha. i didnt believe for one second the gustavo transfer was gonna happen
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I know right but I cant.everytime I see some star linked to us im got all excited and only to hear they dont sign for us after that :/

Just in : according to sky sport we make a bid for Yohan Cabaye.another french

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cabaye is decent. i think he'll add something to the team. he's a good FK taker too. santi and poldi can take FKs but i think cabaye's better. is he defensively apt to provide cover for arteta tho? i think he's like a deep lying playmaker kind of CM right?
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Im not sure where his exact position but from what i watched i think his role is similiar to ramsey.roaming along the midfield line.I might be wrong though.we really need a true DM right now
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read a bit more on cabaye, seems he's able to play a lot of positions in central midfield. in that case i think he would be a great signing. he can cover for arteta when he's out, and provide competition for wilshere/ramsey/rosicky. and let's face it, our four CMs are injury prone. cabaye would be a great signing

... although iinm cabaye has suffered from injury last season too
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next rumour in line: we're bidding for michu and ashley williams

... i wonder if anyone is as UNexcited by michu as i am.
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next rumour in line: we're bidding for michu and ashley williams

... i wonder if anyone is as UNexcited by michu as i am.
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i dont think he adds much to the team, he's probably a tad bit quicker that giroud which is great tho. i personally think if we're gonna add a forward, add someone different than giroud. williams would be good given the problem we have at CB atm.

i still think a CM would be the most vital signing to make. cabaye seems a good deal. rumour is newcastle rejected a 10mil bid. which is criminally low.

next CM rumoured: juve's pogba for 20mil. i have no idea who he is.

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2 more weeks. wonder how AW sleeps at night knowing there are shitloads of arsenal fans out there who will be calling for his head if he does not make any signings asap
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Aug 19 2013, 06:17 PM)
Dulu masa bujang aku selalu pi Carrefour Midvalley section makanan pukul 10 malam masa dah nak closing especially hari Jumaat untok beli barang2 makan dengan harga diskaun around 30% to 50%. Boleh la nak makan bagi kenyang perut sendiri tapi tak la sedap pon

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QUOTE(Unomi @ Aug 19 2013, 07:58 PM)
give them 28mil and 2 pound
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Good observation. Wondering if all the trips to Far East is having a huge toll on the fitness level. Why can't we just do a real pre-season in Austria and forgot about all the commercial benefits.
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You can't just ignore the commercial benefits to the club.
It's one of most important source of income alongside Matchday income (tickets) and TV money (broadcasting).

If you compared our commercials income with the likes of Barca, Madrid and MU, you'll know why Arsenal really focus on this field now.
The potential of it in the Asia and Africa are huge and still very much to explore.
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why not make a joint bid of 35mil + bendtner for fellaini and baines? unsure.gif
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actually i wonder if that 1 pound made a lot clubs executives boycott arsenal and don't want to deal with us
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is it still possible to get a lars/sven bender?
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i think gazidis the goon shot himself on the foot when he claimed that arsenal has the financial muscle to spend this summer. if you brag that you have the money to spend on buying players but offer low prices of course la other clubs will want more. never seen a worse chief executive for a company than gazidis the goon. he should just stepped down before he and his family get death threats from the ultra fans.
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^ you should be immune to all the rumors on twitter by know bro, haha. i didnt believe for one second the gustavo transfer was gonna happen
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Well actually the Gustavo to Arsenal story was real, the interest was real, the bid was real.
Only the player himself that decided to choose Wolfburg instead of Arsenal, mainly because of wages (he earns reportedly 114k pw) and assurance of starting (playing time).

To think that we won't pay Fellaini more than 100k pw, I think that was the real reason we missed out Gustavo.

And to be honest, I don't understand either with this current Arsenal's wages structure.
We are (allegedly) willing to offer 250k for ******, but at the same time won't give 100k for Fellaini. doh.gif
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Well actually the Gustavo to Arsenal story was real, the interest was real, the bid was real.
Only the player himself that decided to choose Wolfburg instead of Arsenal, mainly because of wages (he earns reportedly 114k pw) and assurance of starting (playing time).

To think that we won't pay Fellaini more than 100k pw, I think that was the real reason we missed out Gustavo.

And to be honest, I don't understand either with this current Arsenal's wages structure.
We are (allegedly) willing to offer 250k for ******, but at the same time won't give 100k for Fellaini.  doh.gif
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100k 5 years back and 100k now is different.

Maybe the BoD(s) can't see it.

Maybe they think we should just 'create' stars and sell them.

Maybe it's just me.

Maybe I'm tired of this kind of plays.
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AW wont give a s#*t to any pressure that want him sign big names in this last 2weeks if he already set up his mind not to!
His ego r big..he wont do it unless the position hit with both 1st n 2nd choice under longterm injury.
-No LB as Gibbs not hit by longterm injury. Re: He'll tell u all that its a problem to keep 2 experienced LB not playing when all 3 fit.
-No CB bcoz Sagna could cover Kos n Per while Verm nursing his injury n thats enuf.
-No GK as Sczecny n Fabianski is good enuf so young GK as 3rd is reasonable n no need Cesar. He'll pointed out that no other club would keep 3 experienced GK.
-No DM bcoz Artate gonna back n he still have Frimpong n Diaby. Imagine when they all fit. whistling.gif
-No CF/Striker as Giroud have Walcott n Podolski as cover.
-No CM as he will pointed out at Zelalem n Gnabry making such good progress.
-No LW as Podolski, Cazorla n Ox can play there.
-No RW as Ox, Cazorla n Rosicky can play there.
-No need new player especially big names or experienced one bcoz he gonna show to the world that he could still make to CL spot next season. whistling.gif


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i cant see him not signing anyone. it would take some serious scamming and conning to not sign anyone when the team is ravaged by this kind of injury crisis, with the squad thin enough to begin with, and so many matches to play in the next 2 weeks.
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why not make a joint bid of 35mil + bendtner for fellaini and baines? unsure.gif
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is it still possible to get a lars/sven bender?
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Leverkusen rejected our approach (not bid) for Lars before.
Never linked with Sven tho. We only interested with Gundogan as far as I know.
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Aug 19 2013, 10:10 PM)
100k 5 years back and 100k now is different.

Maybe the BoD(s) can't see it.

Maybe they think we should just 'create' stars and sell them.

Maybe it's just me.

Maybe I'm tired of this kind of plays.
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maybe u should wake up and smell the coffee....

only AW can't see it here...

maybe it's just me...

tired of this In Arsene We Trust shit....

maybe

#WengerOut

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i think gazidis the goon shot himself on the foot when he claimed that arsenal has the financial muscle to spend this summer. if you brag that you have the money to spend on buying players but offer low prices of course la other clubs will want more. never seen a worse chief executive for a company than gazidis the goon. he should just stepped down before he and his family get death threats from the ultra fans.
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Agreed. Not just him but the whole BOD should. i would rather let ot lead by russian mafia who want to run it like a sport club, spend to fight for trophies than by money making brats.
#ComeOnRedAndWhiteHoldings

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And to be honest, I don't understand either with this current Arsenal's wages structure.
We are (allegedly) willing to offer 250k for ******, but at the same time won't give 100k for Fellaini.  doh.gif
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Ya I also noticed this. Wana buy Suarez for 40 mill but can't pay extra mil for higuain. Can't pay extra 6 mil for Williams . Can't pay extra for Fellaini.

Macam fabricated/illusion news for fans pun Ada
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 19 2013, 10:20 PM)
Ya I also noticed this. Wana buy Suarez for 40 mill but can't pay extra mil for higuain. Can't pay extra 6 mil for Williams . Can't pay extra for Fellaini.

Macam fabricated/illusion news for fans pun Ada
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it's all part of The Farking Trios tricks.....

already posted this shit in the previous thread...

u know wat, the way this Farking Trio are managing the club feels like our gomen...

full of lies, tricks, and of course.... the black magic~

pooffff~ all money goes into the bank... big fat bonus this year yo~
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Oh wait, so all the other clubs signings are fit, except for us right?

I pity Ox, 6 freakin months!
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This young guy play like young Viera. Can play as LB if needed. No a bad choice.
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When Arsenal winning the next game..the fans will happy and start talk good about AW!!! Totally forgot what had happened now...

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^^^Actually Ivan Gazidis is not so bad as a CEO. Our new improved commercial deals (eg: Emirates & Puma) is mainly because of him and his team.
The real problem comes from our owner, Stan 'silent' Kroenke. I think Usmanov would never get a position in the BODs as long as Stan is here as Stan can easily block any move made by Usmanov.

And the main reason Ivan publicly said we have 70m to spend is just to put a pressure to Wenger to spend.
If nothing's changes and Wenger doesn't spend (he will), there will be no excuses for him other that stepping down as our manager (he's in his last year of contract anyway)
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AST has spoken?!

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"Ambitious football clubs invest the money they receive from their fans, and sometimes their owners, to make themselves stronger. Arsenal supporters pay some of the highest ticket prices in world football, providing the club with considerable financial resources, but the ambition and ability to use them appear to be missing. The fact that there is money available for squad-strengthening is not disputed. The AST's independent analysis suggests that the amount is somewhere between £70m-£100m.


Something bout AW's authorities within d club..
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"There remain important questions about the way player identification, recruitment and remuneration processes are managed at Arsenal. Earlier this summer we presented detailed reports to the club on how it can improve its Boardroom to strengthen our football infrastructure. The failings we highlighted in Arsene Wenger holding far too much power have only been amplified in recent weeks. These must be addressed as a matter of urgency.
and something bout D Silent One to shout bout..
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"Stan Kroenke does not attend many Arsenal matches nor seem to have the time to devote to the affairs of Arsenal. But it is clear to all that football personnel he is ultimately responsible for are failing. The AST calls on him to appoint an independent expert to conduct a review of all football functions at Arsenal. Clearly the interaction between our scouting, negotiating and player purchasing processes are failing and need urgent improvement".
Sos : http://www.arsenaltrust.org/..


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QUOTE(Lowyat @ Aug 19 2013, 10:30 PM)
When Arsenal winning the next game..the fans will happy and start talk good about AW!!! Totally forgot what had happened now...
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No, not me. I am a manager myself (in FIFA lah), but I always have backup for 1st eleven players. I can even use striker as midfield, DM as CB...even Ignasi Miquel is still with me in 2026!
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Oh ya, I just started season 2026, and yeah I just bought a CAM for 26 million. YEEHAAA!!!
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When Arsenal winning the next game..the fans will happy and start talk good about AW!!! Totally forgot what had happened now...
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I think the problem is not about losing villa game but is the squad that is too thin to compete for the champion.

The fans want a squad that can compete, even at the end arsenal still at no. 4 at least is a fight.

The current squad is like, if arsenal still able to be at no. 4, the fan should celebrate.
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Please bring back the legendary....
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i though he is the guy who sell van persie to MU?
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Shimizu? Kaiser? Vlaar? Palmer? Nouhei?
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Agreed. Not just him but the whole BOD should. i would rather let ot lead by russian mafia who want to run it like a sport club, spend to fight for trophies than by money making brats.
#ComeOnRedAndWhiteHoldings
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Just because Usmanov was a russian and was linked to russian mafia, everyone thinks that the american Stan will be a better choice. sweat.gif Hah, see what happen now doh.gif

Before the season begin why tell us that there is money to spend and are going to spend big to bring in star players. Why give us false hope?

They should from beginning said "sorry we still don't have enough money to spend after paying dividends, directors fees, manager & chairman fees, players salaries, etc. Please bear with us as we will still try to find players who will not mind our cheapskate salary structure and at the same time they will get the chance to play in CL. Arsenal will try its best to make a star out of these players and hopefully made a good profit when we sell them."

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i though he is the guy who sell van persie to MU?
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But his brother, Darren Dein is the mastermind behind the Cesc to Barca move.
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No.

But his brother, Darren Dein is the mastermind behind the Cesc to Barca move.
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Darren Dein not his son ke?

then bring back David Dein...
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QUOTE(JoyLee1055 @ Aug 19 2013, 10:47 PM)
Just because Usmanov was a russian and was linked to russian mafia, everyone thinks that the american Stan will be a better choice. sweat.gif  Hah, see what happen now doh.gif

Before the season begin why tell us that there is money to spend and are going to spend big to bring in star players.  Why give us false hope?

They should from beginning said "sorry we still don't have enough money to spend after paying dividends, directors fees, manager & chairman fees, players salaries, etc.  Please bear with us as we will still try to find players who will not mind our cheapskate salary structure and at the same time they will get the chance to play in CL.  Arsenal will try its best to make a star out of these players and hopefully made a good profit when we sell them."
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Darren Dein not his son ke?

then bring back David Dein...
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Oopss my mistake. Yes, Darren is his son. thumbup.gif

Some said he is already back, hence we are linked with so many big names this summer.
Not sure true or not.

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Its not arsene's fault if the club fails to sign players.

They have other departments to look into such matters like the director of football and scouts.

If these fellas cant find anybody that arsene wants....what can he do right?
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so pogba, cabaye, kondogbia and gourcuff are the realistic players that we can sign for CM now
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Aug 19 2013, 10:59 PM)
Oopss my mistake. Yes, Darren is his son. thumbup.gif

Some said he is already back, hence we are linked with so many big names this summer.
Not sure true or not.
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so pogba, cabaye, kondogbia and gourcuff are the realistic players that we can sign for CM now
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Question as at today is, do they want to join arsenal?

Remember Gustavo............... whistling.gif
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^ gustavo was a bayern player. he's used to the success and money there. we cant offer him either one.

if spurs can get soldado and capoue, i'll be stumped if we cant get anyone around that calibre
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Its not arsene's fault if the club fails to sign players.

They have other departments to look into such matters like the director of football and scouts.

If these fellas cant find anybody that arsene wants....what can he do right?
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Yes. We have D**k Law for that job.

He's the one responsible in player's contracts and negotiations.
But he's not a Director of Football (I don't think Arsenal have any), as Wenger will always has the final said about who the players we want to bring in.
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Actually out of all the rumor, I believe higuain is genuine case. That y AW confident the signing should b done deal. Mana tau Napoli hijack.
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says a lot about Arsenal's negotiation team doesn't it, I mean c'mon...Napoli isn't even a big club.
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QUOTE(mickeysew814 @ Aug 19 2013, 11:04 PM)
Actually out of all the rumor, I believe higuain is genuine case. That y AW confident the signing should b done deal. Mana tau Napoli hijack.
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Higuain was pretty much a done deal, all has been agreed, only needed some paperwork to be signed.
The fee was around 23m, but Napoli came with 35m offer, right after they sold Cavani. And the rest is history.
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Falcao is available right? Buy him?
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Falcao is available right? Buy him?
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he just signed at Monaco.
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says a lot about Arsenal's negotiation team doesn't it, I mean c'mon...Napoli isn't even a  big club.
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Yup but there are some issues with/within the club that makes him available for transfer at 50mil. So 50mil for suarez or falcao?
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says a lot about Arsenal's negotiation team doesn't it, I mean c'mon...Napoli isn't even a  big club.
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We didn't up our bid because we think he's not worth anywhere near 35m.
And we're decided to go for Suarez instead.
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QUOTE(rifasha @ Aug 19 2013, 11:17 PM)
Yup but there are some issues with/within the club that makes him available for transfer at 50mil. So 50mil for suarez or falcao?
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no for both, we need that money elsewhere. if newcastle wants cabaye for 30mil i cant imagine how much we need to splash for other mids
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^ what's the story about falcao anyway?
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It was something to do with tax rules in Monaco.
In order to cope with that rule, AS Monaco need to sell some of their high-earners.

But the news that Falcao is for sale is just a rumor I think.
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We didn't up our bid because we think he's not worth anywhere near 35m.
And we're decided to go for Suarez instead.
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like really they think Liverpool will sell their prized asset??
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I think we should get Fellaini, Begovic, Michu and Williams. 70mil shud be enough for this 4 players. Proven in BPL and enough to strengthen the team.
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how about jelavic? is he available?
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fella should cost around 30
bego, maybe 20
michu and williams were rejected for 35mil, i dont know how much laudrup wants for those two

we might have to get lesser striker and defender with the remaining 20.

... i see a season loan similar to benayoun coming
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how about jelavic? is he available?
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his style fits arsenal don't u think?
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a rabbit in hand is worth 2 in the bush.

like really they think Liverpool will sell their prized asset??
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That's because Arsenal believe there's some clause in Suarez's contract that can force his move out of Liverpool.
The 40m+1 bid was submitted for a reason.
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That's because Arsenal believe there's some clause in Suarez's contract that can force his move out of Liverpool.
The 40m+1 bid was submitted for a reason.
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lol...yeah...anyway, im confused as well about release clauses. shouldn't it means the player is allowed to leave if its met?
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i think if we include the possibility of season long loans tho, we can buy good enough players with the 70mil. fellaini 30mil, bego 20mil, williams 20mil, and season long loan for good players in great teams that arent getting playtime like alexis sanchez, ba or the likes.
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i think if we include the possibility of season long loans tho, we can buy good enough players with the 70mil. fellaini 30mil, bego 20mil, williams 20mil, and season long loan for good players in great teams that arent getting playtime like alexis sanchez, ba or the likes.
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Ba! another brilliant idea.

I mean really...arsenal really haven't consider these?
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lol...yeah...anyway, im confused as well about release clauses. shouldn't it means the player is allowed to leave if its met?
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If it's a release clause, yes, club have to sell once the clause met.
But the clause in Suarez's contract is a complicated one.

The 40m+1 clause is just to make sure Liverpool to let Suarez know that a bid has been made.
It also allowing Suarez and his agent to have a talk with that club. But it didn't force Liverpool into selling or whatsoever.

And there is another clause that indicates that if there is Champions League's club bid for him for a certain amount (I think ~45m), Liverpool have to sell him. (Some said it just a verbal agreement)
And considering Arsenal is not technically in the Champions League yet, that clause is not valid for us.

Disclaimer: This is not 100% correct tho.

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If it's a release clause, yes, club have to sell once the clause met.
But the clause in Suarez's contract is a complicated one.

The 40m+1 clause is just to make sure Liverpool to let Suarez know that a bid has been made.
It also allowing Suarez and his agent to have a talk with that club. But it didn't force Liverpool into selling or whatsoever.

And there is another clause that indicates that if there is Champions League's club bid for him for a certain amount (I think ~45m), Liverpool have to sell him. (Some said it just a verbal agreement)
And considering Arsenal is not technically in the Champions League yet, that clause is not valid for us.

Disclaimer: This is not 100% correct tho.
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Thanks for the clarification man. I didn't know that. thumbup.gif

Anyway, what are the chances of Arsenal being desperate enough to throw the entire 70m for Rooney? lol.

MU will sell at that price surely.

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^ if we're talking all in spending i'd rather 70m on marco reus haha
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70mil spent on 1 player, then after 2 matches, injured for 6 months
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^For 70m, we should go for Ronaldo instead.

Rooney is worth ~35m I think (his price dropped because of his transfer request).

And Reus? Yes please.
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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Aug 20 2013, 01:02 AM)
i think if we include the possibility of season long loans tho, we can buy good enough players with the 70mil. fellaini 30mil, bego 20mil, williams 20mil, and season long loan for good players in great teams that arent getting playtime like alexis sanchez, ba or the likes.
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Not all managers are like wenger, so kind as to sell the best players to the rival.

Even on loan, remember Sahin last season.

Mourinho rather loan Sahin to liverpool than to us.

And you want Ba, ............. hahahaha, JM rather Ba rot on the bench then to loan him to us.



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^ not mourinho but RM boss... last year Sahin, this year higuain. he tak happy AW dun1 go RM... so keep on troll AW.
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yeah, i was trying to include more players in that description haha. in my head, alexis sanchez fits that description better than ba. guy has pedro and neymar in the team
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Let concentrate on cabaye. 10 mil rejected.
How much do you think Cabaye is worth?
He is also quite injury prone.

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~20mil. which is the amount we rumoured to bid for pogba. newcastle wants 30mil for cabai
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I think Cabaye is worth ~20m. No more than that. Good player but not so proven.

In other news, Anthony Taylor (the bald *******) has been dropped by the FA.
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Triple swoop for Reus, Lewandowski & Bender.
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In other news, Anthony Taylor (the bald *******) has been dropped by the FA.
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^ now that's one good news i dont need to wait for official confirmation. HA!

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ffuhh ingat ada signing tadi. rumors lagi. hahaha

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^Yeah, at least his abysmal performance has been recognized.
But its a shame as we won't gain anything from it, not even entitled to appeal for the Kosc's red card.
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Arsenal bid £12m for Cabaye, and £35m for Michu & Williams

We still need an experienced GK, one who is the 1st choice of his country.
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^ Cesar is the name.
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Triple swoop for Reus, Lewandowski & Bender Gundogan.
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Do you think there is a possibility for Wenger to get sacked right now?
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Arsenal bid £12m for Cabaye, and £35m for Michu & Williams

We still need an experienced GK, one who is the 1st choice of his country.
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That would rule out Begovic, no?

I still think all of that bids are just a smokescreen, as we are after for a much more bigger names than this.
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begovic isnt the main gk for bosnia? who is?
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Do you think there is a possibility for Wenger to get sacked right now?
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I believe is impossible to sack him, no one can make money like him for a club.

If i'm a boss, i would rather get a manager who can make money than spend money for me smile.gif
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Aug 20 2013, 01:44 AM)
That would rule out Begovic, no?

I still think all of that bids are just a smokescreen, as we are after for a much more bigger names than this.
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You mean the 5 names that were mentioned in the skysport
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/21...rs-market-moves

I would definitely welcome Ozil & Sanchez drool.gif

b4 that, Arsenal has to beat Fenerbahce first with our depleted team.
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begovic isnt the main gk for bosnia? who is?
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Damn it! I'm confused him and Mignolet. Haha. tongue.gif
I really need to sleep now.

Bye guys. Until tomorrow.
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You mean the 5 names that were mentioned in the skysport
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/21...rs-market-moves

I would definitely welcome Ozil & Sanchez drool.gif

b4 that, Arsenal has to beat Fenerbahce first with our depleted team.
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Some of them.
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Who is going to sack him? The Board of Directors? They're even worse....in fact, the club could certainly, most definitely, will surely be well off without them. vmad.gif
The prospect of a new manager sounds nice, but not at this point in time where we need dire fix for the team. And for that, we need the manager to know who is best to include to the current team, who will be available to ply for the next match, etc.
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Damn it! I'm confused him and Mignolet. Haha. tongue.gif
I really need to sleep now.

Bye guys. Until tomorrow.
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Mignolet from belgium.

yea Begovic is from Bosnia.
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^^ Yea I share the same opinion. But most response from fans I read on blogs and news site is open to that idea.

I think there are players that Wenger already planned to buy but most of them waiting whether we manage to qualify for UCL. Now that suddenly everything bad happened as early as the first game he have to switch to his alternate plan which we currently see now. My opinion of course.

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QUOTE(ahaksz28 @ Aug 20 2013, 12:48 AM)
^^ Yea I share the same opinion. But most response from fans I read on blogs and news site is open to that idea.

I think there are players that Wenger already planned to buy but most of them waiting whether we manage to qualify for UCL. Now that suddenly everything bad happened as early as the first game he have to switch to his alternate plan which we currently see now. My opinion of course.
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That idea probably have crossed every Gunners fans mind, myself included.
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More depressing news..

Arsenal bid for Yohan Cabaye rejected
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Newcastle United have rejected a bid from Arsenal in the region of £10 million for France international Yohan Cabaye, a source close to the Magpies has informed ESPN FC.
Cabaye, a £4.3 million signing from Lille in 2011, excelled during his debut campaign in England but struggled with injury last season. Nonetheless, he has been linked with a host of top clubs this summer.
The 27-year-old said last month he would be keen to join Manchester United if an offer materialised, while Paris Saint-Germain coach Laurent Blanc, though playing down talk of an imminent move, has confirmed his admiration for the midfielder. Tottenham and Monaco have also been credited with an interest.

However, it appears Arsenal are the first club to register an official bid, but ESPN FC has been told Newcastle consider their offer to be “derisory”.

Newcastle manager Alan Pardew said last week that the club had every intention of retaining the player.

“He is certainly not too good for us,” he said in the Daily Star. "Cabaye’s in a great place right now. You want to keep hold of your best players and he is one of the best in the world, in my opinion. He is a fantastic asset for us, has conducted himself in a very professional manner, despite all the speculation, and I admire him for that.”

Despite his reluctance to sell, Pardew accepts that -- having accepted a £35 million bid from Liverpool for Andy Carroll on the final day of the January window in 2011 -- there is the possibility of a sale.

“You are talking to a manager who has the history of Andy Carroll behind him, so you can never say never,” he said. “We are vulnerable to bigger clubs if they are really decisive and make a bid that knocks us off our feet. But that is not my decision. As the manager, of course, I want him to stay and have a fantastic season here, as our fans do.”

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Magpies: "Ok managers, there's a 20 million starting bid".
Wenger: "10"
Newcastle: "Um, Arsene, we said 20 to START OFF".
Wenger: "10"
Newcastle: "Don't think you're hearing us".
Wenger: "10"
Newcastle: "knock it off".
Wenger: "12,000,001"
Newcastle: (SMH)
Wenger: "ok fine 12,000,001 and an overated Dane".
Newcastle: F*** off.

Wenger logic

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Hmmm wonder if any of the news gonna start getting concrete
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Pardew is not happy with arsenal bid

http://m.skysports.com/article/football//8879063


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Pardew is not happy with arsenal bid

http://m.skysports.com/article/football//8879063
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When it comes to arsenal, it is always disrespectful la, this la that la.wtf?
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As always, when AW bid, the price is always too low, even 40 mil for Suarez is low..:.. Others club are taking advantage.

So, the referee news is true ke? Kena kick out by FA.
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I think Cabaye is worth ~20m. No more than that. Good player but not so proven.

In other news, Anthony Taylor (the bald *******) has been dropped by the FA.
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Aug 20 2013, 12:04 AM)
I think Cabaye is worth ~20m. No more than that. Good player but not so proven.

In other news, Anthony Taylor (the bald *******) has been dropped by the FA.
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The thing they said about Fellaini 23.5 million release clause that ends on 31 July is legit? if yes,why on earth we didnt go for that?
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And again, these clubs decided to tell the media about our bids. Have we ever did that before? I dont think so...
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bezanya boss kita tak "bujang". dia dah kahwin dan bergaji ala-ala CEO. dan tengok pada bolded parts pulak. boleh nak makan kan? bagi kenyang perut kan? tapi tak la sedap kan? macam mana kalau boss kita ni tunggu di section makanan Carrefour Midvalley pukul 10 malam, beli makanan, boleh kenyang perut tapi tak sedap dan boleh buat sakit perut? faham kan maksud aku?
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For what it's worth I think we can match all club on transfer fees, bar the sugar daddy clubs of course. It's the wages that I believe we're struggling with to conclude any deal. Not for the lack of money though, must be sonething to do with le Boss evaluation of what the player is worth
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I mean why are the fans so worry about paying the players wages? Hey Come on, we are one of the biggest club in europe, why others club could play their player and why we cant?
This is a football club not a business hub, why do we need to store 100 over mil in the bank where we see this club starting to fall apart.
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QUOTE(Unomi @ Aug 20 2013, 09:33 AM)
I mean why are the fans so worry about paying the players wages? Hey Come on, we are one of the biggest club in europe, why others club could play their player and why we cant?
This is a football club not a business hub, why do we need to store 100 over mil in the bank where we see this club starting to fall apart.
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QUOTE(Unomi @ Aug 20 2013, 09:33 AM)
I mean why are the fans so worry about paying the players wages? Hey Come on, we are one of the biggest club in europe, why others club could play their player and why we cant?
This is a football club not a business hub, why do we need to store 100 over mil in the bank where we see this club starting to fall apart.
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They shouldn't use the wage structure as an excuse anymore. Not when they just released 17 dead wood. That alone could sponsor Rooney's salary and more.
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begovic isnt the main gk for bosnia? who is?
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Pardew is not happy with arsenal bid

http://m.skysports.com/article/football//8879063
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Cabaye is a good midfielder, so sure he wont be happy

If can get Cabaye, Williams, Michu dan probably Cesar, then maybe I'll feel abit lega..
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people say this is the best year for arsene wenger to win the PL, as all the other big three clubs had managerial changes. one game in the league, and the complete opposite happens. chelsea with a convincing win, man utd again getting the goods from rvp, and city thrashing teams and starting to look like contenders again. such is football.

i dont know what's up with fellaini, i know moyes wants him in man utd but isnt it weird that he didnt activate the release clause to bring him there? he's their ex manager of course he knows what's up in fellaini's contract. but instead of bidding for his clause, he makes a double bid for fellaini and baines which got rejected. wth?
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When it comes to arsenal, it is always disrespectful la, this la that la.wtf?
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Actually he is blaming that our bid has unsettled cabaye. So he couldn't field him vs man city. And that has costed them the game. All he wants is for arsenal to bid after the game . I find this fair enough la for courtesy purposes.

This news somehow makes me feel cabaye wants to John us. Since its so unsettling till he can't play the game.
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if it's true they want 30mil for cabaye i vote we go for fellaini instead
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 20 2013, 10:00 AM)
Actually he is blaming that our bid has unsettled cabaye. So he couldn't field him vs man city. And that has costed them the game. All he wants is for arsenal to bid after the game . I find this fair enough la for courtesy purposes.

This news somehow makes me feel cabaye wants to John us. Since its so unsettling till he can't play the game.
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honestly I'm not convinced whether Cabaye can make it into our team. I usually saw him play behind Cisse/Ba last season which is the same place as Rosicky/Jack/Santi. I don't think he tackle much as well like Arteta/Jack/Aaron.
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Faham bro. Aku bukan nk defend le Boss, cuma mmg camtu la perangai dia setiap kali transfer window so sepatutnya tak terkejut pon dengan apa jadi kali ni. Kita ja yg setiap kali transfer window terpedaya dengan harapan2 palsu dari janji manis le Boss dan konco2nya (Ivan, d*** and siapa2 lg la)

For what it's worth I think we can match all club on transfer fees, bar the sugar daddy clubs of course. It's the wages that I believe we're struggling with to conclude any deal. Not for the lack of money though, must be sonething to do with le Boss evaluation of what the player is worth
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^ plus he's also another injury prone french. we have got to stop it with injury prone players. i'm beginning to be more convinced with fellaini. the guy's a physical monster and can play multiple positions. the only thing about fella is i dont think he's technically apt to play the passing game, which is where cabaye excels. but for 30mil i know which one of the two i prefer
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people say this is the best year for arsene wenger to win the PL, as all the other big three clubs had managerial changes. one game in the league, and the complete opposite happens. chelsea with a convincing win, man utd again getting the goods from rvp, and city thrashing teams and starting to look like contenders again. such is football.

i dont know what's up with fellaini, i know moyes wants him in man utd but isnt it weird that he didnt activate the release clause to bring him there? he's their ex manager of course he knows what's up in fellaini's contract. but instead of bidding for his clause, he makes a double bid for fellaini and baines which got rejected. wth?
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the funny thing is, 30m is around the price barca paid to get cesc from us
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the thing is i really dont think fellaini will move. if moyes or wenger really wanted him, they couldve activated the release clause weeks ago but they didnt. so now, thinking again, for 30mil we should bid for pogba/kondogbia
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I kinda fancy Crystal Palace no.29. Dunno what his name but looks gooding in last match.we shud get him.
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It's seems like the media who all the bid that arsenal did. Even they dunno, the manager will Come out n say "ya. AW Come for our player and insult us with low offer, bla bla bla". Then other clubs come in with higher price, and deal!

Conclusion, we will end up with players that not in the media or rumor.
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I kinda fancy Crystal Palace no.29. Dunno what his name but looks gooding in last match.we shud get him.
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the thing is i really dont think fellaini will move. if moyes or wenger really wanted him, they couldve activated the release clause weeks ago but they didnt. so now, thinking again, for 30mil we should bid for pogba/kondogbia
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pogba was flop in BPL wor
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^ iuno man, ppl change, the league changes. torres changed to worse, who's to say pogba wont do the opposite?

i admit i dont know much about him, but from what i read he sounds like a technically adept midfield enforcer
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he never had a chance to shine in United and you called him a flop? get real.

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^ iuno man, ppl change, the league changes. torres changed to worse, who's to say pogba wont do the opposite?

i admit i dont know much about him, but from what i read he sounds like a technically adept midfield enforcer
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no for both, we need that money elsewhere. if newcastle wants cabaye for 30mil i cant imagine how much we need to splash for other mids
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Nabeh so so players again
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whatever it is, i have a very bad feeling that AW is most likely going to sign youngsters again cause according to the Board, it is much more profitable. Sign someone cheap, train and and then sell them when they are good enough.

we no longer sign players to win trophies, we signed enough players to stay within the top 4 just so that we can give these youngsters a feel of playing in Champions League. a form of encouragement to prove that training in Arsenal is better than other clubs.

Arsenal should just evolved from a football club to a full fledge training school. How can there be no players that suited Arsenal's "way of playing" when clubs from all around the world are signing players.

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Even Southampton can splash the cash to capture Pablo Osvaldo from AS Roma..
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The thing they said about Fellaini 23.5 million release clause that ends on 31 July is legit? if yes,why on earth we didnt go for that?
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I think clubs didn't want to match the clause is because they think they can get Fellaini at a lower price, eg ~20m.
But 23.5m for him is worth the money, tbf.

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the funny thing is, 30m is around the price barca paid to get cesc from us
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mana ada flop. Fergie tipped him to be the future of MU midfield but Pogba was impatient and forced a move to Juve. Probably he saw that Pirlo gonna die soon while MU midfielders are all still young, therefore hard for him to breakthrough. While after Pirlo gone he confirm 1st choice midfielder already

oh forgot to mention, Zidane also influenced him to go to Italy. if legend tells you to do so then just follow liao

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Cabaye vs Fellaini

Mana satu hemsem?

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Isn't that our standard mesti hemsem players?
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To me its doesnt matter if the signing AW make is unknown players if those unknown r well experienced players with currently in good form from club that play in another country's top league. Just dont let this squad so thin with only young, inxperienced youngsters as d next backup.. Youngster might be backup to play for other cup competition but not for EPL n UCL competition.
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Aug 20 2013, 11:22 AM)
Cabaye vs Fellaini

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Isn't that our standard mesti hemsem players?
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Can we just get King Henry already? He will answer the call!
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Our current injured players.
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I think Sagna won't be involved for Fener but should be available for Fulham.
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All is forgiven and forgotten if they ever bring him back again. Though its probably 0.01% chance of that. sad.gif
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Aug 20 2013, 11:35 AM)
Yes. But there's some exception: if you're not so handsome, but your gf/wife is hot, you'll be accepted too.
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IIRC Tony Adams already turned us down once when he chose to coach Portsmouth instead
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I think the problem is not about losing villa game but is the squad that is too thin to compete for the champion.

The fans want a squad that can compete, even at the end arsenal still at no. 4 at least is a fight.

The current squad is like, if arsenal still able to be at no. 4, the fan should celebrate.
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Yup, way too thin. Our next PL game will be played with only one proven CB (Per).
Assuming Sagna didn't hurt himself too badly from that fall, he might be able to fill in at CB.

That leaves us with one RB (Jenks) and no LB.
Ramsey can no longer cover full back position as he will most likely be playing in Arteta's position (a position which I've highlighted previously is crucial to reinforce in the summer). Even so, there are doubts to his performance in this position.

On the wings, AOC is out long-term, leaving Theo, Podolski and Santi (although I think Santi is best when playing in the middle).

We're still OK in CAM for now, with Wilshere, Rosicky and Santi, but the first 2 have shown flashes of being injury prone in the past, and neither can play every single game in a season.

Oh and better pray Giroud doesn't crock himself. The only real cover there is NB52.

As at Game 2, we're facing the prospect of:
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CB - Per, Sagna (no senior subs)
LB, RB - Jenks, ??? (no senior subs)
DM - Ramsey (no senior subs)
AM - Wilshere, Rosicky, Santi
LW, RW - Theo, Podolski, Santi
CF - Giroud, Podolski, NB52


I would also love to see more of Podolski in the centre, in a Lampard or Rooney position. A trio of Santi-Podolski-Giroud in the centre would be interesting as all can provide very different styles of play.

IMO, we urgently need to move for a CB (Williams?), a gut-busting DM (Afro?), a winger who can cross and a very different styled striker at the very least.
An experienced, composed GK will be a great addition too, but I'll rate the need for a DM to be higher.

But am I confident we'll be able to get 4-5 players in the coming 2 weeks when we've dawdled for the most parts of summer? Probably not so.
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ox i think 6 months out or so..

sigh i'm not sure what will wenger do now. must have a utility player :/

that reminds me of flamini, he's still clubless right? we can do a lot worse than him, i say just sign him up!
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adel taraabt gi mana weh?
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adel taraabt gi mana weh?
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Cabaye? ben Arfa? Taraabt?
Can't you find more injury prone players than them to be linked to Arsenal? tongue.gif
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arsenal need injury prone players to do rotation in medical bed. obligatory.
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Diaby is like our "phoenix". he'll come back strong for us and then he'll go down to ashes again.
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Damn it! I thought Diaby doesn't need rotation? laugh.gif
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anyway, speaking of Diaby.. sien lar this fella always got injured.. so unluckily
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Sound legit:

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Even Southampton can splash the cash to capture Pablo Osvaldo from AS Roma..
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with a club like southampton willing to spend on players like wanyama and osvaldo, its weird seeing how arsenal haven't spent a penny on any players.

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Our current injured players.
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I have a bad feeling about Ox sweat.gif
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where'd you get this stat? very informational.
pity AOC la. 6 months out is a long time. must be damn heartbreaking for such a young talent like him.

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with a club like southampton willing to spend on players like wanyama and osvaldo, its weird seeing how arsenal haven't spent a penny on any players.
where'd you get this stat? very informational.
pity AOC la. 6 months out is a long time. must be damn heartbreaking for such a young talent like him.
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Here you go > http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_pre...njury_table.php
Look at Bale's return date. Haha laugh.gif

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there are still some decent players available in the market to improve the squad depth. we need quite a few of those, and just 1 marquee signing. then the whole summer ordeal is not that bad after all

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abel hernandez could help the squad now for sure....
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looking at how things are now, i dont think we'll get any marquee signing this summer..most probably we'll just get a few decent players because now we lack depth

inb4 good things come to those who wait

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^I still think we would bring in 2-3 big names this summer. And another 2-3 decent/young players to fill up the squad.

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^I still think we would bring in 2-3 big names this summer. And another 3 decent/young players to fill up the squad.
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If i remember , before the seasons end last season , u are the one who frustrated with arsenal and wenger but now u seems so calm..wtf?

Wenger is not good on big signing maybe thats why he afraid to spend big..
Like jose antonio reyes, arshavin, francis jeffers..

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kaninei..Fantasy point barai weyy..
rvp point banyak..but i'll never pick him.. meluat!

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If i remember , before the seasons end last season , u are the one who frustrated with arsenal and wenger but now u seems so calm..wtf?

Wenger is not good on big signing maybe thats why he afraid to spend big..
Like jose antonio reyes, arshavin, francis jeffers..
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Things changed. I read so much things about Arsenal during the pre-season, and it completely changed my mind.
Wenger's contributions in our club's success are very big and much more than what people have realize. That man deserve much much more credits that what he already get.
And no, I'm not going into that. Don't ask me what I read. The information is free, just search for it.

I'm not asking you guys to believe or to join my optimism, but one day you'll know why. Time will tell.

Oh one more thing.
Wenger used to be a big spender before. But he needed/had to change his approach because of the Emirates Stadium project.

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We made a bid for Cabaye. All this while he said we always working hard in the market. Doesnt sounds right.
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^I still think that Cabaye/Michu/Williams bid is nothing more than just a smokescreen/media talk/PR as we never go public in our bids before. (apart from Suarez, because of Liverpool's antics)

I might be wrong tho.

But there would be no panic buying this summer. I'm sure of that.
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^ At this moment, every new signings would be a panic buying. No denying that because we dont even have enough players to compete and we desperate.

Sigh Wenger. He's really unlucky if he did tried something different this summer.
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Aug 20 2013, 01:45 PM)
Haha I never thought someone would even remember that! tongue.gif

Things changed. I read so much things about Arsenal during the pre-season, and it completely changed my mind.
Wenger's contributions in our club's success are very big and much more than what people have realize. That man deserve much much more credits that what he already get.
And no, I'm not going into that. Don't ask me what I read. The information is free, just search for it.

I'm not asking you guys to believe or to join my optimism, but one day you'll know why. Time will tell.

Oh one more thing.
Wenger used to be a big spender before. But he needed/had to change his approach because of the Emirates Stadium project.
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QUOTE(sickx @ Aug 20 2013, 03:22 PM)
come to think about it, if Cabaye is so damm good he can win the game against Man City, then we should go for him! lol
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because he not even on the bench..
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QUOTE(ahaksz28 @ Aug 20 2013, 02:10 PM)
^ At this moment, every new signings would be a panic buying. No denying that because we dont even have enough players to compete and we desperate.

Sigh Wenger. He's really unlucky if he did tried something different this summer.
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It depends on who would we bring in.
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Matt Spiro @mattspiro

#PSG will step up pursuit of #NUFC midfielder Yohan Cabaye after Arsenal interest emerged, but #AFC favourites to get him, say L'Equipe
3:06 PM - 20 Aug 2013
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:29 PM

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Actually how good is yohan cabaye?
Never watch his performance before.
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:44 PM

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i dont watch him often, but he sort of reminds me a bit of a younger arteta, when he was a more box to box player? gooners think he was the reason why newcastle were challenging for europe spots a few season back
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Now we are chasing Micah Richards! LIKE LIKE LIKE flex.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:53 PM

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But he's midget la.. at the moment all 1st team midfielder in Arsenal team is way too short compared to others.. how can we cope when our player all so cute.. like schoolboy.. sigh..
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Cabaye more like Arteta in term lf play style.

Let's hope wednesday night we can avoid defeat against Fenerbache
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QUOTE(ssmuhd84 @ Aug 20 2013, 04:51 PM)
Now we are chasing Micah Richards! LIKE LIKE LIKE  flex.gif
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Englishmen, good cover for CB and RB and he is gooner!
panic buying ON!
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QUOTE(lone_wolf @ Aug 20 2013, 04:53 PM)
Cabaye more like Arteta in term lf play style.

Let's hope wednesday night we can avoid defeat against Fenerbache
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If this rumour is true, then wenger really is a stubborn tactician. The only midfield (destroyer) in the squad is frimpong.

I guess the tactic he wants is like this:

Deep Lying playmaker ------- box to box midfielder

------------------- No 10--------------------------------
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i dont really care if people call this panic buying, what we need are squad players to bolster our playing rooster, and one world class forward..

micah richards? a cb who can play at right back... just what we need!

cabaye? a box to box midfielder with an eye for a pass, not exactly what we need, but I won't complain if we got him

adam ljajic.... there's no rumour about this one for sure, but how I hope arsenal get hold of him... he shoudl be available around 10-15m. doing a decent job at fiorentina, and is not signing a new contract

fellaini .... bid 30m and he's ours. yellow card magnet but will add threat to our setpiece as well as defending one


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QUOTE(Lynixx @ Aug 20 2013, 04:14 PM)
Matt Spiro @mattspiro

#PSG will step up pursuit of #NUFC midfielder Yohan Cabaye after Arsenal interest emerged, but #AFC favourites to get him, say L'Equipe
3:06 PM - 20 Aug 2013
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Pity AW. That's y we can't buy. Others just come n make the transfer market crazy!
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QUOTE(mickeysew814 @ Aug 20 2013, 05:20 PM)
Pity AW. That's y we can't buy. Others just come n make the transfer market crazy!
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agree...
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Phewww...
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post Aug 20 2013, 05:32 PM

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micah richards?

i like this rumour very much

forgot to add he's also injury prone hahaah

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Lol all the rumors flying around again.
I believe if this wedneday we beat fernabache ,
nobody will complain already. Haha
Arsenal Style to silences the fans just need to win 1 game and everything will be okay. No need to buy player. xD

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If we won la. Most of the fans want the club to lose the game u know?haha
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We should never buy any player already inside EPL.

Sikit sikit tarak respect. Bro, you almost relegate last season la.
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QUOTE(rifasha @ Aug 20 2013, 05:48 PM)
If we won la. Most of the fans want the club to lose the game u know?haha
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Haha yeah! i really hope we lose big on this wednesday. Then AW and his BOD can really wake up, saturday match was just a spark only.
I dont mind giving up CL but we still have FA Cup, Carling cup, and EPL that we really can win this year.
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the goonersphere seems to be preferring a move for Porto's Jackson Martinez. unknown enough to be an ideal wenger candidate imo. again, know nothing of him, so he might be a michu or a kezman
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QUOTE(Lynixx @ Aug 20 2013, 04:14 PM)
Matt Spiro @mattspiro

#PSG will step up pursuit of #NUFC midfielder Yohan Cabaye after Arsenal interest emerged, but #AFC favourites to get him, say L'Equipe
3:06 PM - 20 Aug 2013
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QUOTE(ssmuhd84 @ Aug 20 2013, 04:51 PM)
Now we are chasing Micah Richards! LIKE LIKE LIKE  flex.gif
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Micah is a player I always liked

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