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post Aug 16 2013, 01:34 AM

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Dear TS. Its only points. If u did not subscribe to it, then why not give it to someone who wants it? There is always someone wanting something. The MAIN problem is not TIDAK APA as u mentioned. But more likely u cannot accept there are people who are resourceful and make use of every opportunity they get. If you feel "robbed" of these points then subscribe to their card program or go to another brand that does not use points. Then you be happy.

I do not know what kind of moral arrow you have. But i could give you this senario. U complain to management. The way i see it, you might probably want the person getting the points be fired. So you are happy. Then what? You got someone fired because of some stupid points that you probably don't even redeem once in a blue moon. So is it morally right for you to get that person fired for something that is not physically of value like money that you can see taken from your wallet? Sure the cashier should have asked to be allowed to swipe for points. But c'mon they asked if you have loyalty and you did not have. So logical step that the cashier used their card. I do not see anything wrong in that.

If you want to nitpick about moral values, you SHOULD NOT even post things like this in the first place. Just get that person fired and be happy. You will feel all the right your world have to offer you. There is no such thing as conciseness. We are robots.

I have been on the receiving end of points system early this year. At TESCO puchong one lady bought 20 cartons of canned Carlsberg beer. And when cashier asked for a loyalty card she does not have. She asked if i had, which i did and given the points to me. Thats about a thousand points. Which translates to RM10 cash voucher for me at month end statement conversion. If you were that guy being given such thing, would you deny it? By right you should not because technically, you are stealing from TESCO. The lady gave you the points, but TESCO did not because u did not buy the items. So what goes on now? TESCO lawsuits you to give back the points or pay back the cash amounted value of to you? Whats wrong with you?

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post Aug 16 2013, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 16 2013, 01:39 AM)
i highly recommend reading the entire thread as it has many points that have been mentioned over and over and it's already 1.30 in the morning.

in this scenario, i want everyone to be ethical at what they do. i dont need to get anyone fired, it serves no purpose. ethical, by means of asking if i would allow the cashier to redeem the points that i was rewarded with. then i would have the choice in the matter to either donate or do note. just like the example that u've given.

the lady voluntarily give her reward points to u. voluntary. as in, by choice.

i will give the points to the cashier if they ever ask me. but dont simply assume and swipe away just because i didnt bring or did not subscribe to a particular card.
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Hey, you gotta understand. Somethings are really not worth talking about. If u nitpick on stuff like this i do not find you making society any better. Its like u complain the rubbish lady for collecting aluminum cans in trash that u dispose off. Its like you complain the rat eat from your garbage. Its like you complain your parent donate your old clothes without asking you. What are you? Scrooge McDuck?
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post Aug 16 2013, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(TheOwl @ Aug 16 2013, 01:50 AM)
The title of this story is Dog in the Manger. TS is like that lor.
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post Aug 16 2013, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 16 2013, 02:00 AM)
thrash are things we deliberately and consciously dispose of. reward points are rewarded to us for spending our money at their premises. reward points are the right of the customers to do as they please, as the thrash that we have on hand. so when i choose to dispose of the thrash, anybody can use it as they please.

but taking reward points that do not belong to them is stealing. do u see the point here?

back in the UK, the common practice in such situation is to hand the receipt to the customer to claim their reward points at a later date. never would the cashier or merchant claim the points on behalf of them. u see, the power of choice always belong to the customer. whether i choose to claim it, keep it but not claim it, dispose or donate it is up to me.

FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
assessment is about passing judgment. which is the core of the grading process. when the answers do not make sense, u pass a verdict that penalises the student (by not giving marks). and this in turn be evaluated as a weakness of the student for not being able to produce better answers.

i could go on about this but it'll take another night.
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You still do not get it do you? If i told you "one man trash is another mans treasure." So the alum can u treat as trash can be sold for money. If one day u think, "crap, im throwing a lot of these all year. Why not keep them to be sold for money?" So u throw away and take back.

Freedom of choice? U have a choice of not making a debate out of it. Your choice of accusing them of stealing. Your choice is more like having them jailed. Your choice is also like making them be fired. Your choice if making virtual point system look like the only thing more valuable than gold. Your choice is nitpicking on stupid things like this. Some choice u have.

Back in UK? Back in UK? If you agree much to UK lifestyle, try and make your CHOICE to live there. U probably won't have to argue about being stolen of points from your shopping anymore. Then don't nit pick about not being able to fit in since u agree to their system. Once your CHOICE of being in UK, you can cross out all your other choices because UK is automatically CORRECT choice. U do not need to loose brain cells making decisions. rolleyes.gif

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