Recently there's some agent from a company named Pinggir Armada Sdn Bhd a.k.a Prima One which come to approach me regarding some phone promotion by them. They claim to be able to filter outstation calls/fax and also mobile number made from specific numbers and charge only fix price according the average usage to those outbound number within 3 months bills.

I'm curious if those company are legit and link to TM, or are they some private company doing this services, I contacted TM but they had never heard of such promotion and the company involve. Is it safe and legal to use such promotion/services or is it a scam/fraud generated by scamming company?

If anyone ever come across such promotion or is using it, please enlighten me, thanks

it has been ages.
basically its a router unit sitting between your phone and tm line.

when you dial oversea call, it adds a prefix to the number you dial (like ring ring card)

yes its legal.

cant this be done using those cheapo phone that can filter call itself without relying and paying such company?
jimat summore.

This post has been edited by axxer: Aug 15 2013, 02:41 PM

so basically they're are indirectly buying the calls from TM, and provide to u in a "cheaper rate" according to their explaination
and yes it does involve a router unit as u mentioned
but how would it be legal if it's not under knowledge of TM themselves, this part confuse me


This post has been edited by TheEvilMan: Aug 15 2013, 02:41 PM

you mean voip ka?

same concept as ring ring card, redtone, and hundreds of other company.

yes its legal. you still pay the local call. just the overseas portion is billed seperately.

according to them, the other portion of the bill will be payable to their company instead of TM, is that how it usually works?

voip means it routes the backend through internet.
sometimes they have hardwire connection for better sound quality.
some cheap one even route through skype

they transfer ur call to internet line, been there for ages.

cause ur call to their server is using tm normal line

alright thanks for the info, not very familiar with things like this
is it recommended or better to just pay per use?
from their calculation i dun see much different, maybe a little cheaper but overall it doesn't seem to help in saving a lot of calls rate as they claim

depend on where you are calling most.
there are hundreds of company doing the same thing.

only if u use oversea calls a lot, lemme check if i still have the price list if u want.

but if ur using just for local call, not much difference.

u want to use for office or personal?

majority of my calls do direct to other state or mobile number
but the calculation only show a bout rm50-60 in reduction after i evaluate the whole year calls and such
still considered cheaper but i was worry if it's illegal,
never know VOIP can be done in such way since i only know of direct VOIP device
anyway guess i have a clearer view about the whole things, thanks!

price rate i got on last quote

Sample e-fon call to a Malaysian mobile number:
Call duration: 34 seconds
Cost per second: 0.12 / 60 = 0.002 cents per second
e-fon cost for this call = 34 (seconds) * 0.002 (cents) = 0.068 cents
Sample "Telco X" to a Malaysian mobile number (with 30 seconds billing blocks)
Call duration: 34 seconds
Cost per second: 0.12 / 60 = 0.002 cents per second
Telco T cost for this call = 60 (2 billing blocks) * 0.002 (cents) = 0.12 cents
You save 5 cents in this call alone, even if the call rates per minutes are the same!
e-fon rate table (applicable from 1. May 2011 onwards):
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MALAYSIA - FIXED-NATIONWIDE 0.12
MALAYSIA - FIXED-LOCAL (03) 0.08 (minute blocks)
MALAYSIA - MOBILE 0.12

office, but this one filter other state codes and mobile number except 03 which is my local area.

majority of my calls do direct to other state or mobile number

other state cost the same as local call

mobile number - depends on which line is majority. consider getting a gsm desk phone with simcard from celcom/maxis etc.

can be very cheap this way.

AFGHANISTAN - FIXED 1.17 KAZAKHSTAN - FIXED 0.52
AFGHANISTAN- MOBILE 1.16 KAZAKHSTAN - MOBILE 0.52
ALASKA - ALL 0.08 KENYA - FIXED 0.52
ALBANIA - FIXED 0.32 KENYA - MOBILE 0.54
ALBANIA - MOBILE 1.33 KENYA-SAFARICOM-MOBILE 0.45
ALGERIA - FIXED 1.66 KENYA-ZAIN-MOBILE 0.43
ALGERIA - MOBILE 1.66 KIRIBATI - FIXED 2.79
AMERICAN SAMOA - All 0.17 KIRIBATI - MOBILE 2.79
ANDORRA - FIXED 0.16 KOREA REP - FIXED 0.08
ANDORRA - MOBILE 0.97 KOREA REP - MOBILE 0.16
ANGOLA - FIXED 0.48 KOREA REP-DACOM-SS 0.17
ANGOLA - MOBILE 0.59 KOREA REP-KT-SPECIAL SERVICE 0.08
ANGOLA-MOVICEL-MOBILE 0.59 KOREA-IP PHONE-ALL 0.11
ANGOLA-UNITEL-MOBILE 0.60 KUWAIT - FIXED 0.39
ANGUILLA - FIXED 1.11 KUWAIT - MOBILE 0.52
ANGUILLA - MOBILE 1.11 KYRGYZSTAN - FIXED 0.57
ANTIGUA & BARBUDA - FIXED 0.69 KYRGYZSTAN - MOBILE 0.56
ANTIGUA & BARBUDA - MOBILE 0.69 LAOS - All 0.19
ARGENTINA - FIXED 0.09 LATVIA - FIXED 3.04
ARGENTINA - MOBILE 0.57 LATVIA - MOBILE 3.05
ARGENTINA-BUENOS AIRES-ALL 0.08 LEBANON - FIXED 0.46
ARGENTINA-CORRIDOR-ALL 0.08 LEBANON - MOBILE 0.85
ARMENIA - FIXED 0.72 LESOTHO - FIXED 1.01
ARMENIA - MOBILE 0.94 LESOTHO - MOBILE 1.07
ARUBA - FIXED 0.46 LIBERIA - FIXED 1.28E-FON CALL RATES
Country Call Rates/Mins Country Call Rates/Mins
ARUBA - MOBILE 1.04 LIBERIA - MOBILE

same situation, but instead of cheaper rate this company promote a fix price regardless of + - in the bill
since my company operate 362 days (-3 days holiday lol) i think should be more or less the same usage
so u're using this kind of service too and it's recommended?

This post has been edited by TheEvilMan: Aug 15 2013, 02:58 PM

one thing i notice when i check them was how they reroute ur connection to their router instead of TM.

Ask them if it can automatically switch back to TM if their line is down, if they say need to send technician then u die la becos of downtime.

but if they say can switch automatic, then ok.