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Investment SENTRIO SUITES @ DESA PANDAN [OWNERS' THREAD], The tallest tower in Pandan; from 570 sf

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El_Pistolero
post Sep 1 2013, 11:39 AM

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Regarding the 99 year leasehold issue, is it possible for the developer to state it on the SPA ?
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post Sep 1 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(El_Pistolero @ Sep 1 2013, 11:39 AM)
Regarding the 99 year leasehold issue, is it possible for the developer to state it on the SPA ?
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post Sep 1 2013, 11:47 AM

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Some good write-up for everyone http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...old-properties/
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post Sep 1 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(El_Pistolero @ Sep 1 2013, 11:39 AM)
Regarding the 99 year leasehold issue, is it possible for the developer to state it on the SPA ?
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I dun think so...
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post Sep 1 2013, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(El_Pistolero @ Sep 1 2013, 11:39 AM)
Regarding the 99 year leasehold issue, is it possible for the developer to state it on the SPA ?
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I think you all, the buyers should write to developer to obtain confirmation in black and white before signing SPA.
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post Sep 1 2013, 02:55 PM

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Can someone clarify with their lawyers on :

under the new strata title act, developer is required to renew back the lease to 99 upon completion.

Anyone got any lawyer friends??
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post Sep 1 2013, 03:01 PM

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I wonder if there's any bumi buyer in this forum for the Sentrio?

Did you received additional bumi discount?
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post Sep 1 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(mochamixer83 @ Sep 1 2013, 02:55 PM)
Can someone clarify with their lawyers on :

under the new strata title act, developer is required to renew back the lease to 99 upon completion.

Anyone got any lawyer friends??
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I don't think Strata Title Act mentioned that ...

Rooney... Same 8%...but more choices.
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post Sep 1 2013, 07:25 PM

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post Sep 1 2013, 07:56 PM


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QUOTE(oc_rooney @ Sep 1 2013, 07:25 PM)
I have a case where, the developer is giving additional 5% discount but we must accept the unit we bought will be bumi allocation.

In the future, if we would like to sell this unit gonna be troublesome as not much buyer are bumi.

We believe we should entitle for the discount and the developer shouldnt push us to accept the bumi allocation (or entitle as a bumi unit).

1 malaysia, those non-bumi no offence please sad.gif
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post Sep 1 2013, 08:00 PM

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Let's just stick to property discussion...
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post Sep 1 2013, 11:51 PM

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Apologies for delayed reply.

There are obviously very valid concerns regarding the tenure of the lease. No one wants to buy into something based on representations, only to be told that those promises were empty and subsequently be saddled with inferior products. Will check with developer to ensure that there is more clarity on this matter, and as far as possible to get it in writing. What is clear is that HuaYang is a PLC, with a track record and more projects in the offing. Such prudently managed companies do not make reckless claims without having solid grounds to support their intentions. Nonetheless, will get more information and share with all here again ASAP.

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post Sep 2 2013, 01:47 AM

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yalo, thanks for bringing this up, its for us to find out smile.gif
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post Sep 2 2013, 11:43 AM

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Developer has confirmed in writing that the lease will be renewed when they apply for strata title. Copy of letter should be making its way over to the sales team and buyers will be able to view it for comfort and confidence, soon enough.

It pays to buy from established and reputable developers, who will take the time and effort to address concerns as and when they arise.

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post Sep 2 2013, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(kevlos @ Sep 2 2013, 11:43 AM)
Developer has confirmed in writing that the lease will be renewed when they apply for strata title. Copy of letter should be making its way over to the sales team and buyers will be able to view it for comfort and confidence, soon enough.

It pays to buy from established and reputable developers, who will take the time and effort to address concerns as and when they arise.
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Okie. I got the black and white already. Letter from Hua Yang to Hartamas. I think the situation is clearer now. Thanks Choyliang for bringing up this concern.


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post Sep 2 2013, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Sep 2 2013, 01:24 PM)
Okie. I got the black and white already. Letter from Hua Yang to Hartamas. I think the situation is clearer now. Thanks Choyliang for bringing up this concern.
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post Sep 2 2013, 02:05 PM

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thumbs up for Hua Yang for addressing buyer's concern, shows the responsibility
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post Sep 2 2013, 02:16 PM

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Glad 2 hear that, at least the risk has
been eliminated! Ha! Ha!
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post Sep 2 2013, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(choyliang @ Sep 2 2013, 02:16 PM)
Glad 2 hear that, at least the risk has
been eliminated! Ha! Ha!
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Just curious. Are you vested in Sentrio? brows.gif
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post Sep 2 2013, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(kevlos @ Aug 31 2013, 08:45 PM)
The lease will be renewed to 99 years on completion. This is new requirement.

The pricing is actually more than just RM15K increase, depending on which unit you are comparing with. Nevertheless, it is still a good opportunity compared to alternatives in the market, in my humble opinion. Does anyone have better option to suggest based on current pricing and project details?

A new option is Arte Plus, right next to Elements. It is really not apple to apple to compare that with Sentrio but we'll do a quick comparison all the same.
Arte+ has three times the number of units, is neighbours with developments with combined total of 2,500-3,000 units. HUGE incoming supply
Arte+ is taller - 46-58 storeys
Arte+ has more limited accessibility and sharing with high density neighbour projects
Arte+ has private lift lobbies. As a result, much space is wasted and not able to be utilised as liveable space within the units. Nice to say but not very useful. Downright impractical for units of such small sizes. Further, this also means sharing just ONE lift over 46-58 floors. Waiting time is bound to be longer
Arte+ has branded architect. Great. However, for something that is meant to be an investment product and not very high end, this translates into very high costs which puts pressure on the prices. Something has to give and I imagine the quality of the items used will be lower grade.
Arte+ has taller towers but obstructed views. Sentrio faces the golf course and twin towers with very marginal possibility of anything blocking the view in future
Arte+ has no track record, as in completed product for comparison. Thus far, it has been marketing spiels and attractive packages and investor clubs driving sales.

Quick comparison points to Sentrio being advantageous but one man's meat is another's poison so it would be great to hear everyone's opinion on the same. Cheers
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my 2 cents on your points just from top of my head
1. correct... possible over crowding on access roads
2. no comment
3. correct
4. correct but it is a selling point. waiting time is lessened because i think that 400 units sharing 4-5 lifts spanning 30 storeys is going to take longer than 1 lift spanning 50 storeys.
5. subjective and highly speculative. huayang is a value builder which means value for money products without any design breakthroughs.
6. location location location! Pandan vs Jalan Ampang
7. Very correct. Yet to have completed 1 single project but running 3-4 projects with impressive sales pitches. Its a high risk high return kinda thing i figure

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