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Investment YOUNGSTERS, PLEASE RENT FIRST BEFORE BUYING..., Dont rush accumulating unaffordable debt

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juicyliana
post Aug 5 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(tyshu @ Aug 2 2013, 02:08 PM)
Disagree on the article above on these grounds:

1) If I rent, I'm paying the same about or slightly lower than the amount that I'll pay if I purchase a house. And also, I'm paying for someone's purchase of the house.

2) If I don't buy a house (asset), I'll most probably be buying a car (liability in disguise as an asset). I take buying a home as forced savings

3) If I rent a place for a few years, and decides to buy the place, the price may have ballooned up and capital appreciation stagnated.

4) Work place may change every now and then. Lawyers are pretty fixed, open up a firm, stay there for life or move to the shop lot next door or a lot down the street.

5) I pay RM1.8k this day is e.g. 60% of the salary, maxed out DSR. It will most probably be 30% of the salary 5 years down the line.

My opinion is that our dear lawyer should write about "Take public transport or car pool first before you buy a goddamned car"
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I totally agree on this.

generally malaysian salaries does not go up in tandem with the house prices. You can see house prices rise as much as 30% or more at prime areas but our salaries don't rise as fast as that.

secondly, renting is an opportunity cost. For example, Mr. A has can afford RM3000 a month to pay for house rental or loan repayment. If he put in RM2500 a month for rental, he can only save RM500. The RM2,500 is use to pay his landlord's loan and with a mere RM500 a month, he can only save RM6000 a year. to buy a RM600K house, he need to save 10 years. it's better for him to put his RM3K into his own house than into someone else's.

for fresh grads, it is better to borrow money from parents, combine income with wife or worst case senario, rent a room first and drive an economy car.

Or if he/she has the capital, buy a house and rent the rooms out to cushion the loan repayment.
juicyliana
post Aug 5 2013, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 5 2013, 03:55 PM)
Actually MR.A save

1. RM500
2. Renovation fee (that easily cost 50-100K nowadays) because new house generally is not "liveable", you need to spend on renovation.
While at Rm2500, mostly is fully furnished and at this rate can mean for a property that worth at least 700~800K already. While Rm3000 monthly is enough for RM 700K property?

2. Maintenance fee that easily cost about RM300 per month + sinking fund (10%)
3. Repairing cost (if).
4. Miscellaneous fee like quit rent, assessment, fire insurance, MLTA etc.
5. Don't expose to risk of hike in interest rate.
6. Don't expose to the housing market risk
7. Don't need to pay lawyer fee, stamp duty, which cost several thousand as well.
8. Can move anytime once tenant contract expired, if the property condition, environment is not good.

The money saved by A may enable A to do other thing, investment, doing business etc.
So it is not solely Rm500 gain by MR A.

Renting has its own merit as well, doesn't means 100% is bad.  smile.gif
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Agree with your point but the thing is the RM2500 rental is not fix. it can be increase after some time by the landlord too. Eventually it will exceed the repayment.

Also, if Mr A decides to buy, the initial repayment is high but in the end the house belongs to him after 30 years of repayment with capital appreciation but after 30 years of rental, the house still belongs to the landlord. In fact, the landlord would've got his/her money back from renting it out.
juicyliana
post Aug 6 2013, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(woolei @ Aug 5 2013, 10:16 PM)
nod.gif  this is what in my mind too.

fresh grad or new salary man shouldn't hesitate to ask $ from parent to fund the down payment
(my parent offer me that option 5 years back but i refuse to take it due to i don't wanna commit in debt)

just buy a okok house and rent out the rest of the room will do, said no to renting!
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Yeah, I agree with u. If possible no renting.

in reality, many don't have that paid up capital. some may not be so fortunate for parents support or high income earner.

so there'll be always people need to rent and there'll be people who will buy to rent out. so the cycle will continue.

 

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