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deepan84
post Jul 29 2009, 07:59 PM

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almost all my frens who applied into gov service goin for ptd exam. no screenin b4 the xm? its like 30000 applicants applied, all 30k qualified for d xm.hahaha.


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post Jul 29 2009, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Jul 29 2009, 07:59 PM)
almost all my frens who applied into gov service goin for ptd exam. no screenin b4 the xm? its like 30000 applicants applied, all 30k qualified for d xm.hahaha.
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Yeah, it's like that. But I read read from somewhere that only 8% manage to pass the exam.

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post Jul 29 2009, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(s|dE @ Jul 29 2009, 07:26 PM)
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make me scared now to think u all so well prepared..sad.gif
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don't worry...it's just peanut biggrin.gif afterall....everybody in that exam hall will be as jittery as you are tongue.gif

QUOTE(leowjc @ Jul 29 2009, 09:29 PM)
Yeah, it's like that. But I read read from somewhere that only 8% manage to pass the exam.
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even lower % will be accepted as contract officers and some of those will be "dropped" during the contract period. It's the basic of supply and demand; too much supply, employer can be extremely choosey ohmy.gif
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post Jul 29 2009, 11:30 PM

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May I know y you'll getting excited to work as contract PTD?

Y don't you want to find other permenant job in other sectors (whether in gov or privates)...

Don't be blind for the sake of this position..can you guarantee you'll can be convert to permenant PTD? What if not? Think about your futures...can you guarantee our economics will sustain enough to cough out this recession problem?

Working in gov is pretty much makes us "safe"...but working as CONTRACT in gov is not "safe"

Think again.
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post Jul 30 2009, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Dead4Life @ Jul 29 2009, 11:30 PM)

Working in gov is pretty much makes us "safe"...but working as CONTRACT in gov is not "safe"
Where did you get this statement?

Well, i just want to give myself another option, I can always turn the offer down before i sign the contract. My cousins are PTD, heard that it's kinda interesting and challenging.

And, if i can become contract PTD, I'll make sure that I'll be converted to PTD Unggul. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 30 2009, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(leowjc @ Jul 30 2009, 12:00 AM)
Where did you get this statement?

Well, i just want to give myself another option, I can always turn the offer down before i sign the contract. My cousins are PTD, heard that it's kinda interesting and challenging.

And, if i can become contract PTD, I'll make sure that I'll be converted to PTD Unggul. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Dunno the outcome for you...but contract PTD will be only contract PTD..have duration services...benefits may same as permenant..but after contracts end, no continue..perhaps think again...need to start EPF again..what a waste...
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post Jul 30 2009, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Dead4Life @ Jul 30 2009, 12:09 AM)
Dunno the outcome for you...but contract PTD will be only contract PTD..have duration services...benefits may same as permenant..but after contracts end, no continue..perhaps think again...need to start EPF again..what a waste...
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according to my cousin, if nothing goes wrong, after 3 yrs, contract PTD will be converted to PTD Unggul.

the 3-years duration is just for those contract PTD to be prepared to become the real PTD.

I haven't get the offer yet, why worry so much?

If you think you will be terminated after 3 yrs, then don't even accept the offer.
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post Jul 30 2009, 01:37 AM

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i din expect malaysia kita book sold out so fast sweat.gif. have to order and pay 15 buck more. Anyway if i get till interview, gonna go do plastic surgery to enhance my look lol. They say first impression important.

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post Jul 30 2009, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(Dead4Life @ Jul 29 2009, 11:30 PM)
May I know y you'll getting excited to work as contract PTD?
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...Working in gov is pretty much makes us "safe"...but working as CONTRACT in gov is not "safe"
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i think they are pumped up trying to land a decent job with a decent salary.

a contract post is just that, anywhere; but rarely do governments go banckrupt while companies are winding down like there's no tomorrow...so that's a small "safe" factor

QUOTE(leowjc @ Jul 30 2009, 12:00 AM)
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And, if i can become contract PTD, I'll make sure that I'll be converted to PTD Unggul. icon_rolleyes.gif
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i envy your enthusiasm biggrin.gif hope you'll carry the same energy throughout.

just don't become PTD Tunggul laugh.gif

QUOTE(leowjc @ Jul 30 2009, 12:34 AM)
according to my cousin, if nothing goes wrong, after 3 yrs, contract PTD will be converted to PTD Unggul.

the 3-years duration is just for those contract PTD to be prepared to become the real PTD.
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i think your cousin got it slightly wrong rclxub.gif

during the contract period, aspiring officers will be constantly evaluated with a primary end-of-year assessment (unless policy is changed). Those that have served well (according to whatever assessment criteria the policy lays out) will be recommended for permanent appointment.

there will be no such thing as automatic conversion to permanent post after a period of time.

you'll find in your offer letter that you can terminate your contract with a month notice or in lieu of a month salary and your employer (the government) can do the same.

you'll also find that General Orders and other service circulars are more "brutal" than the laws outside.
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post Jul 30 2009, 09:28 AM

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the book has roughly almost 400 page...so everyday since monday i've been reading 30 pages each day. and by friday next week you should have finish it.

I applied for it because i think compare to other gov,it's the most exciting..of course the competition is brutal..

I'm worried about the bm essay myself.last time I wrote a proper bm essay was during spm which was 5 years ago, I think.


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post Jul 30 2009, 11:48 AM

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pandai goreng cukup la.

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post Jul 30 2009, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(K-o-E @ Jul 30 2009, 09:02 AM)
i think your cousin got it slightly wrong rclxub.gif

during the contract period, aspiring officers will be constantly evaluated with a primary end-of-year assessment (unless policy is changed). Those that have served well (according to whatever assessment criteria the policy lays out) will be recommended for permanent appointment.

there will be no such thing as automatic conversion to permanent post after a period of time.

you'll find in your offer letter that you can terminate your contract with a month notice or in lieu of a month salary and your employer (the government) can do the same.

you'll also find that General Orders and other service circulars are more "brutal" than the laws outside.
I said, if nothing goes wrong, contract will be converted to permanent. If the performance is bad, that mean there is something wrong, of course the contract wont be converted to permanent. biggrin.gif

and, i didn't mention anything about auto conversion. biggrin.gif

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post Jul 30 2009, 09:21 PM

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yeah yeah.

contract is ok. but "sambilan" is suck.
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post Jul 31 2009, 12:41 AM

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if u got contract offer.. just reject it.. not worth it.. if u have knowledge of 3rd language better try other job more interesting.
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post Jul 31 2009, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(waqs83 @ Jul 31 2009, 12:41 AM)
if u got contract offer.. just reject it.. not worth it.. if u have knowledge of 3rd language better try other job more interesting.
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no if, it is a contract offer.

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post Jul 31 2009, 01:55 AM

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nvm la...everybody have it own opinion..im also still thinking...im working now..gaji also sedap...but still go for ptd to test my luck..no cables..just go and hadap sudah! tongue.gif
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post Jul 31 2009, 11:40 AM

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doesn't matter if it's contract or what...secure the job first, then discuss.
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post Jul 31 2009, 12:45 PM

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JPA? nope smile.gif

just an additional note: the term/period completed under your contract will not count when you're taken in as permanent as contract tenureship isn't similar to probationary period.
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post Jul 31 2009, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(K-o-E @ Jul 31 2009, 12:45 PM)
JPA? nope  smile.gif

just an additional note: the term/period completed under your contract will not count when you're taken in as permanent as contract tenureship isn't similar to probationary period.
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yeah, I'm aware of that too...

wasting 3 yrs is like not worth it lo. mad.gif
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post Aug 1 2009, 02:08 PM

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studying msia kita book like mad. rclxub.gif i almost puke.

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