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 Gold Investment Corner V7, all about gold

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EvOliver
post Oct 3 2013, 02:35 PM

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Wondering will the gold price go down further? Now at US$1311.90/oz.
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post Oct 3 2013, 03:50 PM

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Gold pulls back after prior-session rally

Gold prices were headed back down again on Thursday on the heels of a nearly 3% gain in the prior session.

Payroll processing firm ADP said earlier that U.S. non-farm private employment rose by a seasonally adjusted 166,000 in September, missing expectations for an increase of 180,000.

July's figure was revised down to a gain of 159,000 from 176,000.

The numbers bolstered gold by keeping expectations alive that the Federal Reserve will continue stimulating the economy with its monthly USD85 billion in asset purchases, which weaken the dollar by driving down interest rates to spur recovery.
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post Oct 3 2013, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Oct 3 2013, 08:31 AM)
Impossible cos sharp drop time bank no update or market already close in our region. Sharp up time already back to the same rate and bank not yet open.
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.find a platform that can enable you to buy/sell 24/7 anytime..

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post Oct 3 2013, 11:03 PM

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Gold down on U.S. govt shutdown, low demand

Gold fell on Thursday, as investors booked profits after the previous session's gains due to uncertainty about a partial U.S. government shutdown and slow demand in key physical markets

"Prices cut losses after the U.S. data but ...I think the big news is going to be the October 17 meeting for the U.S. budget talks," Natixis analyst Bernard Dahdah said.

"Prices are likely to fluctuate ahead of that as investors will be betting on whether there is going to be a solution or not."

"More bearish (is that)... when the gold price fell back in September the premium did not rise as might have been expected, suggesting a non-price related weakening of Chinese demand; in other words that the Chinese might not want much gold," it added.
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post Oct 4 2013, 09:27 AM

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Gold, the new way to make money in Malaysia

“All that glitters is not gold” goes the well-known adage, but the glitter of gold never fails to attract. Some like to adorn themselves with it and some hoard it in the form of bullions in their vaults, while there are yet others who like to trade in gold futures.

Indians from India are said to be the biggest hoarders of gold, as about 20,000 tonnes are in private hands. India remains the biggest importer of gold from Malaysia.

Last year, Malaysia exported RM7.1bil worth of finished jewellery, with Dubai as the biggest buyer. And up to July this year, RM4.6bil worth of finished jewellery has been exported. The figure could double for the full year.

Where gold bullions are concerned, RM9bil was exported in non-monetary form last year, and this year, it could scale up to RM12bil. Gold bullions are used to make jewellery and also function as an investment tool.

For an investor who wants to diversify his portfolio from fixed deposits, stocks and bonds, gold is an option. It is seen as a safe haven in volatile situations.

Hence, it comes as no surprise that there are many investment trading schemes involving gold in the country. However, some have fallen foul of the authorities, as they are seen to be illegal deposit-taking companies.

One such case involves gold trading company Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd, whose directors have been slapped with a record number of 926 charges for money-laundering and illegal deposit-taking charges, among others. A total of RM5.5bil in deposits had been received by Genneva from 35,000 depositors. This gives us a glimpse of the demand for gold in the country.

This is why come Monday, gold futures will, for the first time, be traded on Bursa Malaysia. It is a historic moment for Bursa, but Malaysia is really a latecomer in gold futures trading. It should have been introduced a long time ago.

Gold futures and options are trading across several markets, including the United States, Britain, Singapore, Thailand, Taiwan and Hong Kong. Gold for immediate delivery was being traded at about US$1,313.85 (RM4,198.41) an ounce as of yesterday.

To get retail investors interested in gold futures, Bursa is offering small-sized contracts of 100 grams. However, traders who want to hedge can trade in multiple lots. One just needs RM1,000 to be able to start trading in gold futures.

As the ringgit-denominated contracts are cash-settled, there would be no physical deliveries. So, if you are worried about stocking up gold bars in your vault, diffuse that fear, as this is all about paper-shuffling.

The gold futures contracts allow market participants exposure to international gold price movements at a lower entry cost, and you can go short and long when prices go up and down. To get started, open a gold futures account with any one of the 19 registered futures brokers with Bursa. Brokers would want some form of collateral as in all derivatives and stocks, and there is a transaction cost for every transaction. The minimum price fluctuation for a gold futures contract is five sen per gram or RM5 per tick.

While this may be one way of diversifying your investment portfolio, the key to futures trading is your investment objective and risk appetite – essentially money-management skills. What this means is that you have to set limits for your gains and losses, stick to it and not let greed overcome you.

A futures broker with 17 years of experience says that “futures trading is easy to play, but it requires a strong discipline in money management”. Rule No. 1, he says, is money-management skills, while Rule No. 2 is to remember Rule No 1. If you do this, you can make money.

Gold has remained the hottest topic since the 1900s and its glitter has not faded. Bursa’s launch of its gold futures is the first step towards trading in precious metals, as it continues to add depth to the market. Next on the list would be gold options and silver futures, but whatever it does, it has to move faster.

Business editor (news) B K Sidhu says gold may be hot, but her nasi kandar today will be hotter.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...n-Malaysia.aspx


all eyes on Monday now biggrin.gif
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post Oct 4 2013, 11:51 AM

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I'm doing opening trading account for spot GOLD, kindly pm for more details.

ps: local futures gold contract also have ...
Ananais
post Oct 4 2013, 02:02 PM

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From which company can I apply for the Gold Future Deravatives?
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post Oct 4 2013, 02:05 PM

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From which company can I apply for the Gold Future Deravatives?
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Any investment bank, brokerage company also can...
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post Oct 4 2013, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 4 2013, 02:05 PM)
Any investment bank, brokerage company also can...
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not all investment banks in msia are licensed futures broker bro wink.gif


QUOTE(Ananais @ Oct 4 2013, 02:02 PM)
From which company can I apply for the Gold Future Deravatives?
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the list of licensed broker is here:
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/deriva...g-participants/

you may also wanna attend any of this free seminar to catch them:
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/events...utures-seminars

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post Oct 4 2013, 03:30 PM

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Gold Holds Above $1,300 as Investors Assess U.S. Economy, Debt

Gold held above $1,300 an ounce, trimming a weekly loss, as investors weighed the prospect of slower U.S. economic growth as a partial government shutdown entered a fourth day and lawmakers wrangled over the debt limit.

“The market feels a little directionless, and the safe-haven bid around the U.S. debt ceiling remains absent,” Victor Thianpiriya, an analyst at Australia & New Zealand Banking Group Ltd. (ANZ) wrote in a note to clients. “ETF holdings also continue to trickle lower and it will be difficult to justify a gold rally in this environment.”

Traders and analysts are bullish for a third week, the longest positive run since July, with 18 respondents in a Bloomberg survey expecting gold prices to rise next week, compared with eight who were bearish and four neutral.
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post Oct 4 2013, 05:28 PM

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To all Sifu, which trading company do you best recommend for the application of the FGLD?
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post Oct 4 2013, 06:55 PM

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Now USD1315/oz

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post Oct 5 2013, 11:03 PM

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CIMB having a Introduction Gold Future KL seminar on coming thursday .
Kindly email me the contact to reserve the seat.

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post Oct 6 2013, 02:34 PM

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Dear all,

Recently I am thinking to park some of my money into gold investment. Few years back I learn about gold but i did not take any action as that time i still a student and do not have money. But now I would like to start my first gold investment. I have a few question that hope all for you can give me some opinion.

Now I have rm3-5k to put in gold investment but I do not really know where to put. Paper gold or physical gold?

Question:

1. If were to invest in paper gold, invest in paper gold provided by banks or those future like share?

2. If invest in paper gold, are you holding long term or short term? I saw alot of ppl in forum are keep traking the price everyday hoping to buy low and sell high. But gold price are not volatile as forex, can we really buy low and sell high lets say in one month?

3. Thinking to invest in physical gold, but keeping will be a problem. Open a safe with UOB might need to pay RM300++ annually. Which doesnt worth the investment plan unless you are buy few kg golds.

4. Kuwait bank is the only bank that allows you to convert paper gold to physical gold which means your money invest is backed by physical gold. Any drawback from that bank?


Thank you for all your time notworthy.gif
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post Oct 6 2013, 02:58 PM

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FLGD probably wont be much success, because the secret for all commodity based Futures Trading are called "Physical Delivery"
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post Oct 7 2013, 04:17 AM

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QUOTE(MoneyMaker prince @ Oct 6 2013, 02:34 PM)
Dear all,

Recently I am thinking to park some of my money into gold investment. Few years back I learn about gold but i did not take any action as that time i still a student and do not have money. But now I would like to start my first gold investment. I have a few question that hope all for you can give me some opinion.

Now I have rm3-5k to put in gold investment but I do not really know where to put. Paper gold or physical gold?

Question:

1. If were to invest in paper gold, invest in paper gold provided by banks or those future like share?

2. If invest in paper gold, are you holding long term or short term? I saw alot of ppl in forum are keep traking the price everyday hoping to buy low and sell high. But gold price are not volatile as forex, can we really buy low and sell high lets say in one month?

3. Thinking to invest in physical gold, but keeping will be a problem. Open a safe with UOB might need to pay RM300++ annually. Which doesnt worth the investment plan unless you are buy few kg golds.

4. Kuwait bank is the only bank that allows you to convert paper gold to physical gold which means your money invest is backed by physical gold. Any drawback from that bank?
Thank you for all your time notworthy.gif
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Some people started investing in gold when price was below US$900/oz over 15 years ago and his average price is believed to be under water as of today, what make novice will be better off? rclxub.gif

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post Oct 7 2013, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Oct 6 2013, 02:58 PM)
FLGD probably wont be much success, because the secret for all commodity based Futures Trading are called "Physical Delivery"
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not neccesary..look at thailand futures exchange, their gold futures is doing well
mean while, 85 lots traded so far and the spreads are narrow
not too bad for a new product


update: 200 contracts done now

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post Oct 7 2013, 04:24 PM

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Gold drops as shutdown continues

GOLD prices have declined as investors remained upbeat about an eventual resolution to the US budget impasse that has kept the federal government shut down for four days.

Traders at TD Securities said a protracted budget impasse was likely to drive more investors away from equities, which are sensitive to an economic slowdown, and toward gold, which is seen as a haven.

Gold's losses were kept in check amid hopes that the Federal Reserve will continue to pump money into the economy for longer than expected in order to offset the impact of the government shutdown.
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post Oct 7 2013, 04:58 PM

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Gold price drop today as per Maybank Gold Counter Rates
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post Oct 7 2013, 06:22 PM

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Now USD 1311/oz, MYR 135/g

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