But then again i'm an art director. what do i know about business/economics
Follow up to Xbox 360 Not Yet Launch in Malaysia!
Follow up to Xbox 360 Not Yet Launch in Malaysia!
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May 19 2006, 09:40 PM
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552 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Shah Alam / Kelana Jaya / Kota Damansara |
Hm my guess is that as a stopgap solution is that for Microsoft Singapore to recognize Malaysia as part of the Singapore market.. i mean, logistically we're just a stones throw (or a minister's shout) away and i suppose having the local Microsoft office to commit a small room + a small team to handle items shipped in from Singapore wouldn' hurt. With that, we can all enjoy standard price on official hardware + software.
But then again i'm an art director. what do i know about business/economics |
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May 19 2006, 10:07 PM
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I don't call Sony Malaysia 'supporting' the Malaysian market. What is it that we got from Sony Malaysia? They know they don't need to support that many consoles since everyone mods them and thus voids their warranty, they didn't even go through the trouble to make english games available here!
If you think it's possible for MS Malaysia to just say "Yeah, let's sell the 360 here. RIGHT NOW!" then I'd guess you have no idea the amount of work involved that is required like Yoroi mentioned. you can't just simple distribute the consoles like what our game shops are doing right now, there must be proper tech support channels created, head count for regional support, convincing distributors to take stock of games and consoles. The whole network must be established before a proper product can be sold and supported here. Gamers like us don't need to call product support when we can't seem to get 480P working on our TV, but there are plenty of people out do who do! And why is it then no one complained when Sony took it's own sweet time to 'support' the local market? |
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May 19 2006, 10:50 PM
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did M$ properly or really launch windows xp here?
will they do that for x360? i guess the hype only comes out in the local game/IT magazine... but the coverage for it just for the sake of introducing it to the local market... it doesnt state where and how to get x360... some more, x360 is all about XBLive... as newer games will be released, x360 will need to be updated... hence, how many malaysians r on broadband? let me rephrase that, how many malaysians use internet at home? ppl in rural areas dont have broadband, not so rural also got no broadband, why should they buy x360? and previuosly even some places in kl also very hard to get streamyx... even xbox 1, klang valley and johor selling xbox at rm600...other places prolly be at least RM 700, pirated games very limited due to low demand, 1 disc can cost up to RM 8 per game and maybe even more.... why should they buy x360 when it cost more at those places and games cost 1 month of kitchen expences? thats why the ps2 very succesful here, anywhere you go, prices mostly the same or more or less different... so, why should M$ launch x360 here when the numbers are extremely fugly to them? they still make money from M$ Office and Windows XP, can they do that with x360? i guess not.... just my 2 cents... |
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May 19 2006, 11:28 PM
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Yes, MS properly launched WinXP here.
Local game IT magazine coverage on 360? Well let's think about it.. all coverage on games locally are really errr... we all know that there's no real way to get the PS2 games which they're reviewing here right? |
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May 19 2006, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(marauderz @ May 19 2006, 10:07 PM) I don't call Sony Malaysia 'supporting' the Malaysian market. What is it that we got from Sony Malaysia? They know they don't need to support that many consoles since everyone mods them and thus voids their warranty, they didn't even go through the trouble to make english games available here! read what the forumers have out down.... these are not empty rants... so read them carefully before you brush them off...If you think it's possible for MS Malaysia to just say "Yeah, let's sell the 360 here. RIGHT NOW!" then I'd guess you have no idea the amount of work involved that is required like Yoroi mentioned. you can't just simple distribute the consoles like what our game shops are doing right now, there must be proper tech support channels created, head count for regional support, convincing distributors to take stock of games and consoles. The whole network must be established before a proper product can be sold and supported here. Gamers like us don't need to call product support when we can't seem to get 480P working on our TV, but there are plenty of people out do who do! And why is it then no one complained when Sony took it's own sweet time to 'support' the local market? |
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May 19 2006, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(marauderz @ May 19 2006, 11:28 PM) Local game IT magazine coverage on 360? Well let's think about it.. all coverage on games locally are really errr... we all know that there's no real way to get the PS2 games which they're reviewing here right? that's my point...the x360 was covered in GamerAxis and Max IT,can't remember when, but nothing much...thats it...no fun, not hype enough....and more over, most consoles games that ppl buy r pirated ones...pirated xbox games r more expensive than the ps2's.... to get the reviewed games, go for ori... prolly can suggest M$ Malaysia like this.... no need official launch,official announcement saying that Malaysians can buy x360 locally from them, like buying Dell PC..order console + game, send to customer's home, setup game console and XBLive(if got broadband).... any prob, call M$ center, techie come check....thats it...can what like that... my thoughts only... |
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May 20 2006, 04:54 AM
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aiyoo no worry lah now at KL got distibutor (Ingram Micro) carry Asian XBOX 360
any problem just send back to them i agree wif u guy microsoft du want to launch 360 in malaysia bcoz here market is very little and another problem is the piracy issue ..... just my 2 cents like me also a poor guy can affort console but not game another thing actually the game is cheap bcoz of the tax make the game very expensive This post has been edited by cuoreboy: May 20 2006, 04:56 AM |
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May 20 2006, 06:08 AM
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May 20 2006, 10:02 AM
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May 20 2006, 01:17 PM
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May 20 2006, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(cuoreboy @ May 20 2006, 04:54 AM) aiyoo no worry lah now at KL got distibutor (Ingram Micro) carry Asian XBOX 360 bro, if you're not going online, not going to connect to XBLive then its ok like that....any problem just send back to them i agree wif u guy microsoft du want to launch 360 in malaysia bcoz here market is very little and another problem is the piracy issue ..... just my 2 cents like me also a poor guy can affort console but not game another thing actually the game is cheap bcoz of the tax make the game very expensive might also say buy from Djinn, TNL and also Imbi Mario or any retailers sells x360 here.. the other thing the thread starter stressed here also regarding registering for the XBLive account.... All x360 users in Malaysia now are registered under other countries addresses... not their home address, maybe got home address but postcode and area is not Malaysia... |
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May 21 2006, 11:34 AM
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May 28 2006, 04:15 PM
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My very personal point of view here; for me, purchasing original games is very depending on the salary range in a country, like in US and UK, you can easily earn up to USD 2k and games cost are around USD 50+-. Even in Singapore, I dun think is hard for you to find a job that earn you 2k SGD a month and yet, games there are around 60-70 SGD. Finally, please look at our own country, if you earn 2k, RM 150++ for a game and RM 1.5K for 360 please, there gone your salary. So I don't think Malaysian dunwan to support originals, we are not at the level yet that we can afford orginals. And finally, Microshaft realize this far more than we do, let's hope for the best
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May 28 2006, 06:09 PM
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I agree with the previous post. very priveliged (cant spell) few can afford to buy original games. Only since price for xbox 360 games (and console) drop can i afford such things
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May 28 2006, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(|Keantan| @ May 28 2006, 06:09 PM) I agree with the previous post. very priveliged (cant spell) few can afford to buy original games. Only since price for xbox 360 games (and console) drop can i afford such things You'll see that happen when you can see a rainbow in the middle of the night... It'll never happen. Imagine a US$50 360 game. That US$50 is distributed to so many people: 1) The retailer's profit margin 2) The distributor's profit margin 3) The creator's royalty 4) The parent console's royalty (MS, Sony) 5) The material costs (CD, box) Unless you can persuade any of the above to stop taking profit |
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May 28 2006, 08:02 PM
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just like me everyday said no money no money~
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May 28 2006, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(Pudujail @ May 19 2006, 02:56 PM) If everybody can download games from internet (like the n-gage), nobody will support it, we all know what happen to n-gage. gamers who know the psp well,would know that there are downloadable games for it,as well...the reason the ngage failed,imo,was because of the 1)lame graphics 2)bad design 3)hardly any support 4)online via gprs 5)no camera(if there was a cam,it would make for some interesting games) 6)lack of titles 7)the hardware was dated from the get go...(even the GBA was better..at least eventhough it wasnt full blown 3d,it didnt pretend to be a 3d handheld console |
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May 29 2006, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(yoroi @ May 19 2006, 07:07 PM) As someone who works for MS on a contractual basis... I would just like to point out that there are many reasons as to why the 360 is not officially launched here... I admit that although piracy is a factor it is not the only factor. Things like appointing a reliable distro, existing internet infrastructure and broadband penetration rates, % of Malaysian gamers that play online, the total market size of Malaysian gamers and spending habits of Malaysian gamers have also been taken into account.... after running all those numbers it doesn't seem viable due to all the costs involved in a&p, logistics, legal framework, manpower blah blah blah... so live with it... yoroi bro! xbox360 launching in india soon.. and if you're asking what credentials i have for all the stuff above, I handled the SG launch.... have a nice day... |
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May 30 2006, 06:57 AM
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Despite what you may think, India is more technologically advanced than us. India is the main exporter of IT experts in the world......let's not forget that a lot of US, UK, Australian companies outsource their IT functions to Indians/Indian companies.
But yeah, even though we have our community here, we are only a small group who actually are willing to shell out RM160++ for a game, whereas the rest of the gaming population in Malaysia are only willing to pay RM5 per game... |
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May 30 2006, 01:47 PM
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