If you want to use this phone till it's full potential, you need to spend a lot more time studying... not just a normal consumer phone

around 3xx

Do your research bro,in 2007 apple introduce multi touch,and they show all types of smartphone brand of that time(palm,windows phone,and more),the phones that time only use stylus and NO multi touch,in fact that last time is a "press screen" instead of "touch screen",I would admit that without apple,there will be no multi touch for today smartphone,and take note,apple is the FIRST to have multi touch,give me the sources of what you said please,thanks

There's too much fanboy comment here,seriously

Smart people that done enough research always end up buying nexus 4.. Hehe

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Sep 1 2013, 01:51 PM

i guess this thread will help me a lot in the future btw do you recommend me to 'unleash' my nexus right away after buy it or play with stock for few month? not a heavy user though.

Your name remind me of Maple Story lol

Btw, you can play with stock for few weeks. After bored and know what you are doing with root then you can start exploring

I am still on stock ROM! seriously, best in stability and smoothness.

Rooted my phone once i got it out of the box, custom ROM the next day

Me straight unlock,root,flash already on first day

The name's is taken from Dota

Btw, i'm concern about the battery life. Need a non laggy phone and i know Nexus 4 can deliver. But quad core, technically consume more battery kan? Some say it's bad, some say acceptable. what say you guys?
Stock and custom got much difference in terms of battery life? Thanks

Stock more power hungry than custom lo...With Franko Kernel ... can set the phone to be in 1 core or 2 most of the time and activates 4 cores when needed...Battery life depens on your usage lah... Like mine just flashed to latest PA not many apps only FB ,Wechat,whatsapp battery can last 2 days i suppose ... My SOT quite long ...

Here you go. Selling by forumer, Dark Devon

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2939303&hl=

HAIH. My ear piece and headphone jack seems fried. Headphone only plays left side and is very noisy. Earpiece seems to have static whenever I talk.

Hopefully LG let's me RMA again..

Yup, for me custom ROM and Kernel gave better battery life compared to stock... As long as you not playing heavy games or other heavy resources apps. Surfing and some light games like Subway surfer and Contra still gave me a day usage with more than 4 hours SOT.

Currently on CM10.2 Nightlies and Hell Kernel

How do you fried headphone jack

Read again bro. He is talking about multi screen aka multi window. Like open Web browser and a video player at the same time. Not multi touch

No idea. It just happened.

if you charge your phone on daily basis, even stock kernel and rom should be good enough.

quad core technically consume more, so starting with NVidia Tegra 3 (first quad core CPU for mobile), kernel already implement auto_hotplug which allow kernel to decide to use only more core when needed.

qualcomm's S4 pro implement it slightly differently using mpdecision - a userland process that something similar. however, since it's not open source, many custom developers decided to removed that and implement the hotplug.

so, even in stock kernel and ROM, it's not that bad.

all stock ROM are using OnDemand CPU governor. in term of power saving this CPU governor is second only to Powersave and sometimes Conservative. most custom ROM using Interactive which may make the phone more responsible, but cannot match the power saving of OnDemand. (On side note, Interactive CPU Governor may not be best for Nexus 4 or any Jellybean android since Project Butter is more effective than CPU governor. it will automatically boost CPU freq on touch.)

there are other settings such as larger data buffering, low memory killer settings, io scheduler, etc that custom ROM may implement to conserve power, but in my testing, they are soooo minor. so custom ROM offer little in power saving nowadays.

custom kernel offers more nowadays. with custom kernel, you can do under-volting. typically allow your CPU to run at same speed (or higher) at lower voltage. other than that, you also can implement lower lowest brightness etc.

although i m still using Stock ROM (with some customization), i m using a custom kernel for power saving and lower heat. ohh... ya, custom kernel allow me to calibrate Nexus 4 screen too, which LG and Google really do not do justice for the IPS screen.

Oh,then sorry for misunderstand stormlcc