Hi guys, I wanted to purchase a mega zoom camera but having difficulties in choosing one of this 3 brands?

Canon PowerShot SX50HS 50x zoom, 12mps
Nikon Cool Pix P520 42x zoom, 18mps
Panasonic Lumix FZ60 24x zoom, 16 mps

Currently still at beginner level, using Panasonic lumix GF3, wanted something to zoom further as often go for concert and like taking shot at animal/ insects.

*do not wanted to invest more in lens therefore wanna let go my compact 4/3 micro lens GF3 and go for this mega zoom camera....

Dear all sifu,

Kindly advise on which is better and more value to go for it.... As camera knowledge is too wide, and I m just a very beginner so.........

Thanks a lot in advance...

i suggest Panasonic Lumix FZ60 24x zoom, 16 mps

Uhhhh....
You have to realise something.
Super zooms or mega zooms as you call it isn't exactly good in terms of optical quality.
Sure you get to cover more range but at great cost.
It's ok-ish if you're using it for vacation/day time shots.
Concert and macro shots ?
Forget it.

Even a DSLR with a super zoom would suck in a poorly lit concert or for macro imaging
A superzoom compact ? it'll suck more
Your GF3 would be better.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jul 28 2013, 10:19 PM

if u don mind...

grainy picture due to bad low light performance
focusing problem in bad lighting situation
focusing problem when subject move quickly erratically
motion blur due to low shutter speed

then super zooms P&C are ok..

i am not saying the 3 cameras are bad... u can still get great pictures with them.. i am only afraid the misses will be more than the hits...

just that they have limitations when compared to other pricier options

This post has been edited by seather: Jul 28 2013, 11:05 PM

i agree with others. superzooms for concerts? day time concerts okay la...but night time concerts, im sure ur GF3 would do a much better job.

those cameras you listed might be able to get closer, but at the cost of getting much much less light in and also loss of focus speed. seather already listed out the cons.

im not familiar with panasonic systems but the Panasonic 45-200mm f/4-5.6 G Vario MEGA O.I.S. lens seems like a good choice for you.

There are pages of night concert in full HD videos were shot using Canon Powershot SX50 HS here that debunk what so called "sifus" said above.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...on+sx50+concert

Nice try to troll.
A video require lesser shutter speed
But try again with photos.

This is the GF3
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Panasonic+gf3+concert

Show me cleaner and better images than these.


This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jul 29 2013, 09:17 AM

Different people have different standards and expectations for quality.

http://thenewcamera.com/tag/mega-zoom/

how bout fujifilm hs50exr?

This post has been edited by Predator10: Jul 29 2013, 10:24 AM

you can find macrolicious photos fr SX50 too

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Canon+Sx50+macro

thanks for all the share link and opinion...but my concern is even i got a 45-200mm lens..it couldn't as much as well and if i sit quite a distance from the concert stage........

chokia i saw ur thread the picture u took with ur canon 50hs...is awesome and amazing..

so what do u think about this camera shooting concert video and taking picts...(as u know concert is pretty dark and i guess standard flash couldnt reach the stage)

can kindly help on this..

I assure you.
Any mega zoom at 200mm would look horrible compared to your GF3 using the 200mm lens

However, if you can live with it, then go ahead.
Keep in mind it is not possible to upgrade unlike micro4/3.
Not to sure of the resale value, but I don't think it's as good as a micro4/3 camera or lens.

Best is that you try it out for yourself. Try using maximum zoom in a dim indoor environment. If that's good for you, by all means get it.
If not, I would stay away from it as concerts could be even worse.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jul 29 2013, 12:14 PM

you already seen the video, now check out the pictures

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Canon+Sx50+concert


Im not an expert but i think canon backsideillumination (BSI) sensor helps a lot in low light condition.

Im also glad that we can tweak canon powershot camera further like increasing the shutter speed to as fast as 1/100000 secs to as slow as 2048 secs (34min) and ISO from 80 to 80000

Would you get something that is worse than your current camera ?

For every camera/lens, there are certain conditions where it can take rather good photos. Like when the light is really good. This sometime happens in concerts when there's a strong light.

Try inputting your GF3 and see a direct comparison between the cameras you consider.
http://m.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-powers...d=studioCompare

Unless you're totally fine with that, go ahead. If not I'll guarantee that you'll regret buying.
Sticking with your GF3 will give you 9/10 times better photo. The 10th time is when you need really really long range in broad daylight.

Panasonic FZ200, constant 2.8, leica lens for concert
or
fujifilm xs1, 2/3 sensor in pro body and great lens

Maybe can crop the pic?

cropping would degrade a picture's quality, but still depends on how much you cropped.

i still think that if TS get a zoom lens would be a wiser choice than getting a mega zoom P&S. bigger sensor will always give you cleaner images and better quality.

to make it clear, cropping is just taking a portion of the image. it does not degrade the image quality.

i think what mingyuyu's trying to say is that if you rely on crop, you are likely to be disappointed as cropping takes a section of the original pic.

so if the output on the original image is already bad, cropping it won't help unless you don't mind.

groupon selling fuji x-s1 at rm1498 after 50% off..

dont bother using flash for concerts. very common mistake.

another way to get pretty photos for concerts: spend more on getting front row tickets!

okay seems that this canon sx50 is a pretty good camera. n yes BSI tech is pretty impressive so far.

but the big big big differentiators, in 2013, are still sensor size and lens quality.

but then again, for TS, having a superzoom is definitely the more convenient and cheaper solution. if that is preferable, then the SX50 might be a good choice. just dont expect too much for the image quality.

just buy from courts starting from 1 august

Ya I believe TS is happy with his current camera's image quality, just not the zoom. So if he's viewing on some ordinary laptop screen, cropping can help.

last time i use Fujifilm FinePix HS20EXR

Ya I m kinda satisfied with my current gf3 picture, just tht I dun wish to invest more in lens and for convenient I just want to bring out a camera rather than carry it with other lens..

Moreover I miss view finder..

Now seriously dilemma over fz200 constant aperture f2.8 at any zoom and canon sx50hs 50x zoom...

Maybe you should just stay with Lumix ecosystem by choosing the latest one the fz70(fz72). THIS ONE WITH 60x MEGAZOOM!



Read : http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/compact/fz70_fz72/index.html

it has f2.8 too but not sure it'll be constant at any zoom. I kinda a like it cause it has better accessories like mounting another telephoto lens to extend to 2,040mm! (thats crazy).



Im pretty sure u've bought lumix accessories for GH3 that still can be used for this cam.

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/compact/fz7...ccessories.html

How is this Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ70 with 60x optical zoom compare to Canon SX50HX 50X zoom? Spec shows Panasonic is better...

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/07/18/Pa...0x-optical-zoom

Have it launch in Malaysia o not? Cos couldn't find it online anywhere? Moreover do it have hot shoe? Also thinking whether the fz70 have constant aperture 2.8 at any zoom o not?


I do not believe in mega zoom quality actually but what been done by Chokia wit his camera, it telling u even a small sensor can produce such great picture?

dude, dun be too greedy, none of mega zoom, in fact none of compact camera as i can recall come with constant aperture lens.
even on our DSLR world, the constant aperture lens zoom range are less than 4x


none of us doubt on small sensor capability, in fact many ppl here did take great picture with compact camera or phone camera, that jz depend how u master ur gadget on ur hand

for what guys above try to tell u are: since u own a micro 4/3 camera, do not expect u can get par to current camera output quality with mega zoom camera.

but then do anyone know is the fz70 is already out in malaysia o not? thanks

bro i have check the fz70 sounds great do u notice that a fz70 is no longer LEICA lens..

is just a normal lumix lens...

sigh...sigh...

FZ70 just announced on July.
Maybe will release to market by Sept.
Need to check whether it is as good or better than Canon sx50.
Sony also has its 50X zoom campact camera (HX300)
Hard to decide which is a good buy...

DMC-Fz70/72 aperture is F2.8 - 5.9 / Multistage Iris Diaphragm (F2.8 - 8.0 (W), F5.9 - 8.0 (T))

but old DMC-Fz200 is contant f/2.8 until 25-600mm

Check it out already bro, fz70 only lauch somewhere in September and ao far successor of fz200 haven't had any news yet..

Btw I had tried out canon sx50hs and fz200, I would say fz200 suit me more and it feel more solid.. Ya the zoom of canon is amazing but still,

But another question is, current model has been a year already and it successor fz250 or fz270 will be out anytime soon I guess...

Sigh..::

shootout between 4 superzoom cameras by cameradebate
Panasonic Lumix FZ70 vs Canon PowerShot SX50 HS vs Nikon P520 vs Sony Cyber-shot HX300

Dear sifus,

Is it still worth to get fz200 now despite rumor are stating the successor fz250 is coming out? Thank you....

Pretty dilemma now.. Confirm will buy fz200 over fz60 or 70 or even canon...

The camera is unbelievable......

just get it if you can get a good deal, any camera will be surpassed by future camera, just enjoy it

Thanks for ur kind opinion bro, I understand Future camera will definitely surpass current model, not only in camera world while all other things, as in like phone, car, or anything related to technologies...

My question is since the new one are around the corner and might be announcing anytime soon, so is it worth to get it now?

To apologise in advance, I might sound uncertain and contradict I been discussing wit my frd advised to get a dlsr either latest canon smallest dslr 100d or nikon d3200...

What you guys say and think?

if you get the small dslr, you need to spend a lot on the equivalent lenses, 24/28mm wide to 600/1200 mm tele, wow, maybe around 10k total investment.
if money and weigh is not a problem for you, it's ok.
if you can wait, why not, maybe the newer fz250 or whatever is much better and much cheaper, but maybe it can also be not much better but much expensive
if you need it now, just buy, if not, wait and see lor

Do you want zoom range or do you want QUALITY? You can't have both

if ur main photography just on concerts and macro, definitely go for mega zoom compact camera and no need dslr.. fz200 is good for u because u can zoom to 24X at f2.8.. and it's macro can close up up to 1cm

Bro, how do you do that???

Canon PowerShot? Can do it on a PowerShot N?

Not yet

OK. What about Nikon? Do you need any special kind of software to do that?

Another model from fuji that could be considered is the Finepix HS50EXR. Has most of the functions of a DSLR. Though still a small sensor but slightly larger then the other bridge at 1/2". Has hybrid autofocus (phase and contrast combine for faster focus). Probably won't beat a micro 4/3 or DSLR in the picture clarity departmet but would be pretty flexible and lot cheaper and lighter then lugging around multiple lenses.

I think why SX50 excels compare to the rest of superzooms is its SUPERZOOM!

Only SX50 able to zoom up to 200X in camera. That said, you are able to see what you're shooting without depending on luck in post processing.

You may argue 200X digital zoom is crap but look:-



Thats Jupiter in all its glory surrounding by its Galilean moons screenshot from SX50 video and that's not even in full resolution.

This post has been edited by chokia: Sep 28 2013, 06:51 PM

SX50 to let go: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3014224