Today in The Star newspaper...


Andana @ D' Alpinia, Puchong Exclusive Condominium and Villas - See more at: http://www.hapsengland.com/d_alpinia_andan...h.1twGOLLq.dpuf


This post has been edited by accetera: Aug 23 2015, 09:28 AM

This project just open for register only. When this project launching?

http://www.hapsengland.com/service_residence_bangsar.php

new @ bangsar as well

How is the landed at D'Alpina doing? Heard more people talking about 16 Sierra than them?

Registered.

I think will be very pricey.

Build & sell?

Thread started some time ago >>> https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2879305/all

But seems not popular... perhaps indication of the market cooling down? (but seriously most buyers i met say lowyat is only a minority)

Is this near La THea??

is this build and sell?

How much the price? Located nxt to ldp, near to puchong gateway..

La Thea also not doing well... Different developer also. Sfera Residence also coming very soon... Marketing have a real tough job to do

Too many projects in those so called outer puchong

This whole area really alot... oversupply me think!

This place shouldn't be categorized as Puchong .
More like an area of its own, not cyberjaya, not Taman equine , not Puchong too

They called it Puchong South.

this area may become more desirable once the IOI City Mall up next year, if the mall can be crowd puller

"Puchong South".....Correct me if I am wrong.

What I know or read that Sierra 16, D'Alpinia, Puchong Gateway, O2 City have "Puchong" address. i.e. 471xx Puchong, Selangor and MPSJ approved O2 City to use "Bandar Puchong South, 471xx,".

Wow.. with MK address also cant sell!
People used to call this area as "Seri Kembangan" & "Serdang"......likely low class area!
However, I can still see the potential here lah.

Any idea the size of the condo and the villa (terrace house)...
Personally lookig forward to this as it is convenient for me

This project is Build & Sell. Ready soon...

Is this really Build & Sell? If we want to buy now, they won't sell to us?

I wonder what is the strategy that Hap Seng is using? Maybe they want to weed out the flippers?

they are a role model to alll dev.
it is making healthy market. No many dev can do like what they did.

Building looks nice. Now they are painting the external walls.

Just pass by and saw this.....
RM433 PSF ? ? ?

With BTS some more??


This post has been edited by You Sir: Aug 22 2014, 03:24 PM

Completing Soon.

Build & Sell.

very large size...1580sf

Suitable for family own stay.

cash rich co

Buy BTS with current market price better or buy newly under-con project with (so call) completed price better??

Just saw from somewhere..
Good News! Upcoming Built Then Sell Development!!
Starting price RM433psf
Spacious Condo and Garden Villa
Low Density – Only 116 Condo & 30 Villa on 4.68 acres land
Inverter Air-Cond for Living/Dining and all bedrooms
Free SPA & Loan Legal fee & Disbursement fees*
2 car park for each unit




This post has been edited by You Sir: Aug 26 2014, 12:01 PM

The facade is kinda old school. LOL

Is that the final coating? looks kinda weird.

Anyone here bought this property?

BTS is the way to go.

- buyer don't need to wait 2.5 years completion
- no risk of abandonment
- what you see is actually what you'll get
- the price already reflected with the current market value

initially was aiming for the villa as it is conveniently located but the design is kinda weird..i mean ok lah funky got "ascending" and "descending" type but personally not practical in terms of the allocation of rooms ....i.e. ascending type, there is no room for maid unless u use the utility/store as the room...

but what puts me off is the maintenance fees....about rm 460 for the villa....too pricy lah

What i like about the villa is that it is very exclusive and low dense. no other houses behind or in front of you.

What is the built-up size for the villa and how much bro?

If villa and with facilities, ZI think RM 460 mf / mth is kinda fair.

Facility to share with Condo resident? Any one went for the launching last weekend?

Sales for this launch is slow... I've been to their Sales office more than 3 times. I do not see much increase in people buying the condo units. Even their initial offers have been extended after the launching.

Maintainance fee alone comes to RM400. So expensive?
Can cover your electricity, water, internet & still have money to spare... And RM433/sq ft is pricey in a market where there's less demand, more supply, especially after yesterday's fuel hike.

For Andana condo, psqft is about RM411 after rebate. IOI La Thea at 16 Sierra is selling at 5xx psqft with smaller build up though.
Both leasehold. Noticed 2 more developments nearby, O2 and Sfera... both also priced near RM500 psft range.

This post has been edited by wenhsiung: Oct 3 2014, 05:03 PM

Wao! RM411psf is a very good price, hardly can get any condo with such prices in klang valley now a days. I heard is very low density, only about 100 units in total.

Is this a good buy? Any comment?

I think is a good buy, as mentioned by wenhsiung, surrounding area higher much higher price with higher density. Hap Seng is a reputable developer and cash rich, that's why they can do build then sell. I think the reason why they are selling lower price then others is because almost all the building materials are supplied by their own in house subsidiary companies including tiles, bricks, cements...etc...

I personally like the size and price for own stay. The layout not bad. Anyway the things I not so like its in between two highway (high traffic somemore). so believe its gonna be noisier and dustier.

but size and in the such low density its not a bad project. But the design of the building abit haha. not so nice la haha

haha. between 2 high way mean good feng shui right.. lolx

Total 116 units condo and 31 villa.

the project seems less attractive to many investor perhaps due to the larger build up, the smallest condo unit is 1572 sqft. some more build and sell, no grace period for price appreciation that normally enjoyed by new property project, which may take 3 - 4 years for construction.

location wise, 16 sierra seems to be targeting mid high end market. whether ioi could make it a premium township in years to come, perhaps only time will tell.

could be the reason why there are still remaining units to go although just 100++ units in total for the condo. suitable for those who really need a HOME rather than flipping the numbers

Maintainance fee is around RM400 - RM450 per month. Even for own stay, that's very damn expensive.

per square feet only RM0.25, consider low, RM400 is because build up big.

Big built up means they going to put more security guards to look after the condo?
They going to paint the entire building every year?
When I walk around the entire premises, I won't find a single spec of dust/dirt lying around?
What value do I get as the property buyer by paying RM400 per month???

RM400 = RM150 (Unifi) + RM150 (Electricity) + RM50 (Water) + RM50 (Misc).
Not to forget, that location, everyday confirm have to pass through at least 2 tolls one way to get to your workplace/destination, etc. Eventhough I can get loan up to $1 million, I cannot see any reason why I have to pay such high so called "maintainance fees" + "highway toll for a road that's jammed most of the time" just to live in this place.

Now is buyer's market, not the time for speculators... Time for genuine buyers to demand & ask for more!

So you expect a reasonable class Condo with 1600sf to pay RM0.05psf or maybe RM0.10psf for its maintenance fee ? let me know where you can get that ?

Firstly, how do you define "a reasonable class"? Do you have an objective method or subjective, based on your own perception?

Secondly, did I mention I want to pay RM0.05 or RM0.10 psf? My point earlier if not implied is that each resident should pay a reasonable monthly maintainance fee to ensure the upkeep of the shared premises. Not just let the developer set a quantum that doesn't make sense. Are they being transparent about how the funds are going to be spent on monthly basis when you sit down & sign the S&P? No right?

So to answer your question, where can I get that? Well, definetely not in Malaysia where the rakyat votes for morons into the government & accepts the status quo. We as citizens should be fighting for our rights as consumers and also demanding fair prices for properties, regardless whether they are landed or apartment/condos, gated/guarded/maintained, etc. The goverment should ensure that it meets the need of its citizens to have a roof over one's head since it's a necessity and not a luxury.

Anyway, that's my view. Up to you to choose to buy or not.

I remember SA told me is RM0.20 for condo, i.e. around RM314 per month before GST for 1,572sqft. It sounds reasonable.

Those day people don't even look at Kota Kemuning because of Kesas tolls. I have a couple of years of peaceful living there and travel daily to office located near KL tower. Until recent years crowds starts moving in and cause heavy traffic at roundabout and kesas highway, and property prices are on the rise though cannot compare to other prime locations, it is still a decent place to live.

Made a tour around 16 sierra, it offers similar 'home' feeling for many who wish to stay away from the crowded city, and enjoy more spacious home.

Perhaps, these properties are meant for those who are willing travel distance for home and can afford tolls and petrol. Not for the mass market.

Yeah this one really cater for home buyer rather than flippers

As back to your quote on feng sui. yearh that's the cons loh. That's y I don't like it haha

ya i am staying nearby, quite a good choice for "Home" but not cheap so still considering

IOI La Thea would be a good comparison for Andana.

If I remember correctly, unsold units at La Thea are selling at 520 to 570 per sqft depending on build up. 1200 sqft unit are selling at min 620k after rebates. Comparatively, 1572sqft at andana is selling at min 650k after rebates.

Extra RM30k for additional 372 sqft. Of course extra space may cost u additional maintenance fees.

For family with kids, perhaps little extra space does make quite a bit of difference.

another point is Andaan can be moved in early of next year but not La Thea which at least 2 more years

No. of units: 526 units (La Thea) vs 116 units (Andana) + 30 units (Andana Villa).

Can anyone share the location in Google map of the exact location ? Or GPS coordinates? Appreciate it...

2°58'48.0"N 101°38'48.6"E
2.979996, 101.646848

Can snap the latest selling chart when you go to their sales office? Thx

Just went there today, forgot to snap photo on the chart but basically higher floors are selling same price as lower floors, facing north is facing LDP highway, and the 1572sqf unit facing north comes with two single car parks (not tandem) which is good! They give 5% discount for dp, and bear legal fees on loan, you only need to pay stamp duty. The maintenance is 0.20 per square feet, if I remember correctly.

I really think it's a good buy compared to La Thea, and both are in nice secluded area. Close to two international schools.

ya. 0.20 cent per sf which is reasonable as most of the others have started to charge 0.38 cent per sf

RM0.20 for Condo unit and RM0.15 for villa, i think is relatively low rate as compare to others in Klang Valley.

The direct access road from LDP is currently under construction, it will be to the door step of the guard house once its completed.

ya, low psf and maintenance fee, quite rare in town, any one bought it ?

This post has been edited by Dogman: Oct 18 2014, 11:04 AM

Booked a unit

booked condo ? for your own stay ? please share some of your thought on this property.

Hap seng cash rich company. Materials all using gred 1 mml tiles and red brick.

They are definitely cash rich, and they are also the supplier and manufacturer for most of the building's material...left pocket to right pocket, nothing for them to loss by using grade 1 material.....besides, they are also the biggest Mercedes Benz dealer in the WORLD ! so I was actually expecting them to give out Benz discount coupon to all of their property purchaser

This post has been edited by Dogman: Oct 18 2014, 10:49 PM

Anyone can share the photo on actual unit, and on common area and facilities...

is still under construction .....

Before we book, our options :Sierra 16 townhouse / Andana / Bandar Saujana Puchong Semi-D (budget 600-700K)

We came to a decision to buy Andana because of its reasonable price & low dens. (RM409psf)
Located in/next to developed township & Putrajaya Sentral & Pasar Borong.
+ immediate access from LDP & walking distance to shoplot

Good for own stay perhaps investment.

** my 2 cents opinion

This post has been edited by fluffy428: Oct 19 2014, 01:02 PM

I know last time when they 1st launching d'alpinia giving out Mercedes car for one of lucky drawn onwner.

Is freehold or leasehold?

Leasehold

You got yourself a condo or villa? What is the sales package offer?

anyone got latest sales chart?

But is too near to the LDP very dusty and noisy especially at night.

Why so mafan, is just beside the LDP less than 50 meter from the highway.....u sure can see it from LDP

the most quiet place to stay is in the forest
There are so many high end condo in town that are near the highway and still selling like hotcakes. it is very dependant on the developer's quality on sound proofing.

This post has been edited by Dogman: Oct 22 2014, 09:46 PM

Do you know how long the whole LDP is ??
people is asking for location and someone is trying to make fun of it....

Hi everyone...

Just a quick question if anyone can help...Have been looking at the 1572 sqft layout, any idea how to dry clothes since there is no yard? Also how bout washing machines? Share with wet kitchen?

This post has been edited by theproblemkid: Oct 23 2014, 12:02 PM

From my understanding, you may need to buy a dryer. Otherwise, you'll need to dry your clothes outside your main door, at the side of the entrance which is not shared with any other unit, since there are only 4 units per floor. In this case, it would be better to get a unit which side faces east for morning sun. However, don't know if the management will allow that...

There's a tap outlet and drainage for a washing machine in the wet kitchen...

I got this pic from an agent's listing in mudah.my

It'll give you a better idea of what I mean...

Can try to arrange a site visit with sales office, and see the actual unit by yourself.

Have you been to see the actual units?

Yeah stay in forest for you monkey!

And someone who feel pain even not the one asking the question. like baby. The Puchong South LDP stretch is very long like 1 km only. It is super long. There is only one condo beside the LDP stretch of Puchong south.

yeap....----->🐌

Nope, just seen the unit photo album printed in A3 size.Was there during the official launch, crowded but only abt 40% take up when i left at 1pm.

My fren went a week before, and manage to visit the actual unit, very spacious was the comment he gave.

No harm to call them up for a viewing appointment if u r considering this project, sure they are more than happy to serve you.

Thanks for the reply...looks like very limited options to dry clothes unless the wet kitchen is used as the drying area as well...dryer wont be cheap


Can the actual units be viewed? SA told cannot go in hence only can view through pics...Pics also usually may not tell the actual story since depends on camera angle etc.

I think the developer so confident without show unit also can sale off.

Cash rich company. They started d alpina back in 2007, land cost is way cheaper. Construction for andana also almost completed, not affected by gst. So.. no hurry.

if one can wait till the project hand over by early next year, they can choose the actual unit at site, provided good units are still available.

I think by then, all good units will be gone. Currently, already more than 50% sold...

I was there two days ago, I think is almost 70%-80% sold...ya, cash rich HapSeng, they are in no hurry, so far I have not seen them doing lots of marketing, just slow and steady.

Only 116 units condo, and price rm411 per sqft, not a surprise to see 70% take up.

Perhaps, the left over would be the block b facing LDP, closer to highway, and bumi units.

I get Block B condo with balcony
Discount : down payment -5%

Hmm... u have bath 2 to share
maybe turn ur bath3 into yard...

hehe

i actually went to see the actual unit. units are all pretty much completed by now, only the areas outside the units and common area and facilities need work.

all the fittings are in, airconds are all also installed. 4 per unit. toilets still left mirrors not yet installed when i saw. that was a month ago.

How the quality for the fittings n workmanship

i got no experience in property buying so maybe best not to ask me.

from what i see no major complaints. maybe the toilet needs a bit more work, however the basin and toilet seats they use are decent. they say they will fit mirrors into all toilets but not fitted when i saw, also shower screen and shower head not fitted. tile colour in toilets are light greyish brown. good colour for me.

paint looks good to me, didnt see any defect, however the wet kitchen 'ventilated' brick wall they use is no good and should be taken out and replaced with a window or something once the property is bought.

in the dry kitchen area, the wall is tiled up to the ceiling with white tiles, makes for easier cleaning. floor tiles are the big ones, they don't look cheap.

window in the hall although it looks small looking at the condo from outside actually stretches all the way almost to the floor. occupies almost the whole wall. makes the place feel even more spacious.

overall design to me is very basic, nothing creative.