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 Does LEASEHOLD really concern you?, Sub-sale Serviced Apartment

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post Sep 12 2013, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(oc_rooney @ Sep 12 2013, 02:00 PM)
To play safe...

Place to stay: Freehold
For investment: Leasehold / Freehold

Leasedhold also can la place to stay, when you old your children also will buy their own house so most likely the house will be jual later on.
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I suppose the only downside will be, 3 generations on or 3 different owners, if they decide to sell with say, 10 years left, what would be the value then.
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post Sep 12 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jul 30 2013, 02:59 AM)
Wow, short form also u can get the project name, hahaha.

Yeah, both are good, but for me, SSM outshine my expectation for IM and probably, IM was my slowest appreciation property, where in fact, I rent out the unit easily at RM 2,500 but I had no regret to sell both due to I used the money for somewhere else and waiting it to harvest up nicely. Or else, my portfolio remains the same.

Any property can give me good appreciation and capital return is good, I dont care whether it help me profit RM 10k or RM 100k, I had set my minimum and maximum target for each investment, of coz realistically. The importance for me, would be liquidity and how fast can flip and rent out.

Ridzuan is a very terrible condo, sigh. That's part of the reason why so many tenants trying to move over to SSM due to better management and improved management from time to time. I hate them until I like them.

Concurred that, location is never go wrong, accessibility, affordability and entry & exit pricing.
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Chris kor,

what is your opinion on Subang Ville Aman Luxury?
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post Sep 13 2013, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(zenwell @ Sep 12 2013, 05:39 PM)
Chris kor,

what is your opinion on Subang Ville Aman Luxury?
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Boss, Subang Ville Aman got Luxury one meh? I not sure eh.

Hmm, this condo, I think quite old but probably better than Ridzuan.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Sep 13 2013, 01:45 AM)
Boss, Subang Ville Aman got Luxury one meh? I not sure eh.

Hmm, this condo, I think quite old but probably better than Ridzuan.
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LOL! Perhaps we can suggest to place those African Ambassy in Ridzuan Condo, easier to manage.
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post Sep 13 2013, 08:45 AM

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As i grow older n wiser on property investment, no lishold doesnt concern me at all....
What concern me is the location n concept of development.

Having said this, i will buy if lease is 99 or close to 99. I wouldnt touch anything lh on subsale w lesser lease period left.
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post Sep 13 2013, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Sep 13 2013, 01:45 AM)
Boss, Subang Ville Aman got Luxury one meh? I not sure eh.

Hmm, this condo, I think quite old but probably better than Ridzuan.
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Chris kor, I'm no boss la. biggrin.gif

This SV Aman Luxury is the low density one. next to SM. According to agent this is considered condo, while SV Ehsan which is infront a bit is a walk up apartment.

I see this SV aman quite ok la. corridor also spacious, bright and clean. Unlike RC.
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post Sep 13 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(zenwell @ Sep 13 2013, 10:05 AM)
Chris kor, I'm no boss la.  biggrin.gif

This SV Aman Luxury is the low density one. next to SM. According to agent this is considered condo, while SV Ehsan which is infront a bit is a walk up apartment.

I see this SV aman quite ok la. corridor also spacious, bright and clean. Unlike RC.
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Ya. I mean dunno they put luxury cond only, hehe. This SVA macam low profile, maybe being block by SM and the entrance hardly can be seen due to the small road with bunch of cars parking road side.

I never go in SVA, so no idea. But Ehsan is definitely a normal and old apartment.

This area definitely SM is the best although I had flipped it earlier. Very good rental and high demand.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jul 27 2013, 12:26 AM)
If not mistaken, it is based on the land size value by the government authority ( not self valuer ) and not the property cost / value or not including the building cost.

Assume the balance of the lease period is 20 years, assume the RM1mil superlink land size is huge at 2000 sq ft and the current market value for the land is RM 200 psf. ( it should be much lower by the the land only has 20 years lease remaining ) and I was told that the State Authority normally value it much lower than the market rate by the valuers firm.

The formula should be ;

0.25 x 0.01 x 79 ( years ) x 200 x 2000 = RM 79,000

The other cost would be RM 500 burial cost, lawyer fee of RM 1000-2000 and Admin Cost of estimate RM 500-2000 ... I don't think it is RM 200k high.

Btw, if a 2000 sq feet land area leasehold linked house is cost RM 1mil with lease remaining 20 years, to spend RM 85-90k for the renewal to 99 years is worthy and ultimately, the property may shoot up to > RM 1.5mil ( just my imagination )

In the other way, if a leasehold land prop with less than 20 years remaining is worth RM 200 psf, then the value of the land itself is much higher with 99 years renewal bcz market value is higher than State Authority value.

Under Selangor State, the renewal is under promotion of only RM 1,000, provided you do not sell the property and allowed to pass to the family members. Meanwhile, if you do not wish to activate this option, you can have the next option of paying full premium ( currently with 30% discount ) and can sell the property immediately.

IMO, as long as the state government is willing to renew the lease extension, it is worthy if your property location is ideal and the market value is good if 99 years conversion successfully done.
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Necro your old post sir, gonna seek for your opinion as this's the best answer after I run through this thread.

when can I renew a leasehold property (3 storey shoplot) at the relevant authority? And when should I do so?

Tqvm, and good night.
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Nov 7 2016, 01:23 AM)
Necro your old post sir, gonna seek for your opinion as this's the best answer after I run through this thread.

when can I renew a leasehold property (3 storey shoplot) at the relevant authority? And when should I do so?

Tqvm, and good night.
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You quite free to dig out 3 yrs post... anyway freehold or leasehold is not an issue for our generation..by the time we have smell from the joss.... that story left it to our grandson or great grandson... of course leasehold have to see which type of properties we bought..if location not nice sure cant find buyer...
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QUOTE(Endless_tale @ Nov 7 2016, 12:38 AM)
You quite free to dig out 3 yrs post... anyway freehold or leasehold is not an issue for our generation..by the time we have smell from the joss.... that story left it to our grandson or great grandson... of course leasehold have to see which type of properties we bought..if location not nice sure cant find buyer...
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Not very sure about malaysian leasehold but in Singapore, property (Condo ) above 25 years have very good potential of en-bloc by developer.

That's where Leasehold VS Freehold really comes into play.
Leasehold 99 - construction period 2 years - 25 years = 72 years, developers usually offers around $380psf
Freehold , developers usually offers above $500psf

If land is located near central area, the difference is much higher

Singapore leasehold will not be renewed, according to minister Khaw BW.. announced on TV.. at the end of 99 years, land value will be zero. (same as renting a shop in a mall)

Government will then tender the land for lease to developers at prevailing market price.. this applies to 30, 60 and 99 years lease.

FH property hold much better value in long term.

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Hi everyone! Im a newbie to investment n hope to get some advice frnm u guys.

Im a Malaccan who wishes to own my very first property for solely investment purpose.

Im vry interested in a luxury serviced apartment in the heart of the town. Good location with good amenities and surrounding area is booming. Price is RM350k for a 689sqf 1BD (RM509/sqf). Love the overall concept. Im planning to get rental income. However, Im in a dilemma as the property only left with 87 yrs by the time I get the key in 2018.

My questions:

1. Will it be a wise investment? Should I go ahead purchasing it or look out for other property?

2. Is it normal for developers to develop the land after 10yrs?

Would appreciate if you could shed some lights. Looking forward to your kind reply. Thanks.
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QUOTE(Kytan73 @ Apr 4 2017, 01:42 PM)
Hi everyone! Im a newbie to investment n hope to get some advice frnm u guys.

Im a Malaccan who wishes to own my very first property for solely investment purpose.

Im vry interested in a luxury serviced apartment in the heart of the town. Good location with good amenities and surrounding area is booming. Price is RM350k for a 689sqf 1BD (RM509/sqf). Love the overall concept. Im planning to get rental income. However, Im in a dilemma as the property only left with 87 yrs by the time I get the key in 2018.

My questions:

1. Will it be a wise investment? Should I go ahead purchasing it or look out for other property?

2. Is it normal for developers to develop the land after 10yrs?

Would appreciate if you could shed some lights. Looking forward to your kind reply. Thanks.
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The "luxury" is located in Melaka?
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post Apr 4 2017, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Kytan73 @ Apr 4 2017, 01:42 PM)
Hi everyone! Im a newbie to investment n hope to get some advice frnm u guys.

Im a Malaccan who wishes to own my very first property for solely investment purpose.

Im vry interested in a luxury serviced apartment in the heart of the town. Good location with good amenities and surrounding area is booming. Price is RM350k for a 689sqf 1BD (RM509/sqf). Love the overall concept. Im planning to get rental income. However, Im in a dilemma as the property only left with 87 yrs by the time I get the key in 2018.

My questions:

1. Will it be a wise investment? Should I go ahead purchasing it or look out for other property?

2. Is it normal for developers to develop the land after 10yrs?

Would appreciate if you could shed some lights. Looking forward to your kind reply. Thanks.
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Unless you rent to expat, doubt you can recoup your investment cost monthly.

Malacca's property all dead in terms of rental except for shoplots one. Landed house also going about 1k+ in some area only....
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post Apr 4 2017, 03:14 PM

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Leasehold first hand is ok if location is great. subsale I will not touch at all.
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QUOTE(Karen1995 @ Apr 4 2017, 03:14 PM)
Leasehold first hand is ok if location is great. subsale I will not touch at all.
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Even first hand also hard to let go for leasehold...

I usually go for freehold project... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Kytan73 @ Apr 4 2017, 01:42 PM)
Hi everyone! Im a newbie to investment n hope to get some advice frnm u guys.

Im a Malaccan who wishes to own my very first property for solely investment purpose.

Im vry interested in a luxury serviced apartment in the heart of the town. Good location with good amenities and surrounding area is booming. Price is RM350k for a 689sqf 1BD (RM509/sqf). Love the overall concept. Im planning to get rental income. However, Im in a dilemma as the property only left with 87 yrs by the time I get the key in 2018.

My questions:

1. Will it be a wise investment? Should I go ahead purchasing it or look out for other property?

2. Is it normal for developers to develop the land after 10yrs?

Would appreciate if you could shed some lights. Looking forward to your kind reply. Thanks.
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the rental market rate there now is rm1,500 per mth? demand more than supply? if rental income sustainable... doesnt matter leasehold or not... someone already pay the loan and interest for you... haha.... sell it before the lease become less than 50 years should be ok... but your gain for sure lower than other freehold projects...

but if someone already helped you pay the interest consistently with rental... its still okay to sell with minimal gain... better than nothing to began with....
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QUOTE(Kytan73 @ Apr 4 2017, 01:42 PM)
Hi everyone! Im a newbie to investment n hope to get some advice frnm u guys.

Im a Malaccan who wishes to own my very first property for solely investment purpose.

Im vry interested in a luxury serviced apartment in the heart of the town. Good location with good amenities and surrounding area is booming. Price is RM350k for a 689sqf 1BD (RM509/sqf). Love the overall concept. Im planning to get rental income. However, Im in a dilemma as the property only left with 87 yrs by the time I get the key in 2018.

My questions:

1. Will it be a wise investment? Should I go ahead purchasing it or look out for other property?

2. Is it normal for developers to develop the land after 10yrs?

Would appreciate if you could shed some lights. Looking forward to your kind reply. Thanks.
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Is the subject property in Melaka itself?
Can do airbnb? But Melaka everywhere also got cheap hotels or boutique place to stay so the competition is tough.

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post Apr 4 2017, 04:51 PM

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Sarawak has no freehold land lo.
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 4 2017, 04:51 PM)
Sarawak has no freehold land lo.
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Sarawak freehold
https://homes.mitula.my/offer-detalle/18133...hold/Lelongtips
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Anyone have any idea about what would happen to the Leasehold in Selangor? What could be the maximum cost of renewing Leasehold Landed property?

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