Pupilllage- sort of internship for lawyers
So far no luck
inb4 me is kudapink :3
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very difficult finding job..
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over the past 2 weeks, ive sent out 12 resumes for pupillage applications
Pupilllage- sort of internship for lawyers So far no luck inb4 me is kudapink :3 This post has been edited by seiferalmercy: Jul 24 2013, 01:19 PM |
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12 resume lol..
send more la |
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TS, don't give up. all the best!
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ifeelubro.jpg, of coz, situation abit different
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too picky... try send at mcd
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wow 12?
i've never sent more than 10 total 3 times jump company |
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2 week only bising already. U think u are CEO son they need to process once receive?
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lol
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finding 1st job real tough wan..but dunno y lately i got many interview offer though im employed already..haih goyang...
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12 only?
anway... dont komplain la... its puasa now and raya after this.... u expect ppl to read millions of resume on puasa? |
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U expect ppl reply within two weeks????
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2 weeks? i wait for 2 years for my job
be patience and try harder |
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Mcd, kfc hantar tak? Cuba la hantar mana tau dapat. Takkan nk hantar kat petronas or bank2 je...
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chill TS it will come
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sent email to hr ask abt my app status (1 week after intabiew).. till now 1 week d, nv replied.. so unprofessional
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bumi ? non bumi?
what uni? grade? |
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U shold put this at the header of your resume:
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usaha tangga kejayaan. if you dont like, u keluar
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TS dont put expected salary too high la... RM1500 enough oredi.
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jul 24 2013, 01:29 PM) let me tell you la... lohyar at first is lower than many other professional one.. RM1500-1800 in normal firms, only big firms like Skrine, Wong & partners and those super firms pay Rm3000. Even when ur pupilage finish it is about RM2500-3000. and of course if your exam result cacat.... very very hard to find lohyar job one. so still put RM1500 first and let them see what you got. |
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 01:31 PM) Jadi pengemis kat baazar![]() http://hotsensasi.com/2012/10/pengemis-mam...p-rm500-sehari/ ALOR GAJAH – Aktiviti mengutip derma di daerah ini dilihat semakin menjadi-jadi terutama hadapan pintu masuk bank, stesen minyak, tempat letak kenderaan, kedai makan dan pasar raya besar. Difahamkan, seorang ‘ustaz’ ditugaskan menghantar dan mengambil pengutip derma dalam kalangan kanak-kanak atau remaja dengan kereta mewah, sekali gus menjadikan amalan ini seolah-olah perniagaan untuk mengaut untung berganda. Wartawan Sinar Harian yang menyamar sebagai penderma berpeluang mendengar pengalaman dua pengutip derma berusia 11 dan 15 tahun di dua lokasi berasingan. Adawiyah ketika ditemui di hadapan sebuah stesen minyak di sini, berkata, dia terpaksa melakukan kerja itu kerana desakan hidup. “Sudah tiga tahun saya mengutip derma. Saya lakukan dengan sukarela, bukannya atas paksaan seperti didakwa sesetengah pihak, malah ‘ustaz’ juga mengajar kami bagaimana melariskan jualan,” katanya. Menurutnya, dia dan rakan lain mampu mengutip RM300 hingga RM500 sehari bergantung kepada tempat dan keadaan kerana hasil diperoleh mungkin berlipat ganda daripada jumlah kutipan derma yang disasarkan di setiap daerah. “Setiap sektor ditempatkan seorang remaja perempuan atau lelaki. Kami akan dipantau seorang ‘ustaz’ yang sentiasa memerhatikan gerak geri kami dari dalam kereta mewah agar aktiviti yang kami jalankan berjalan dengan lancar seperti dirancang. “Kami menjual beberapa keping cakera padat (VCD) dan beberapa jenis minyak pintar untuk kecerdasan minda kanak-kanak serta dewasa dengan harga RM20 setiap satu. Semua hasil daripada jualan barangan ini diserahkan sepenuhnya kepada ‘ustaz’,” katanya yang dibayar RM10 hingga RM15 sehari. [ARTIKEL BERKAITAN: Pengemis kaya bukan dongeng] Menurutnya, hasil kutipan akan diserahkan kepada pengetua untuk dana markas iaitu tempat mereka semua menumpang teduh. Seorang lagi rakannya, Hurhidayah Suliman berkata, aktiviti mereka bermula selepas tamat sesi persekolahan sebelah pagi dan bermula jam 11 pagi sehinggalah 10 malam. Menurutnya, mereka akan diberikan taklimat sebelum bergerak dan dihantar menggunakan van atau MPV ke lokasi ditetapkan. “Kami hanya diminta memilih pelanggan berduit dan yang mudah dipengaruhi supaya mereka membeli VCD serta tisu yang dijual. “Kami mengharapkan jualan ini untuk terus hidup. Jika kami tak buat kerja ini, kami nak makan apa, lagipun bukan senang nak cari duit lebih. Walaupun terpaksa kami tetap relakan juga untuk bersemuka dengan orang ramai yang bermacam ragam,” katanya. Nurhidayah berkata, dimaki hamun, dihalau dan diludah sudah menjadi perkara biasa buat mereka yang mengutip derma. “Tapi ramai juga bersimpati dengan kami dengan memberi derma dan menasihatkan kami supaya menjaga diri,” katanya yang biasanya mengalas perut dengan sekotak air soya dan sebungkus roti sepanjang mengutip derma. |
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QUOTE(liez @ Jul 24 2013, 01:32 PM) let me tell you la... lohyar at first is lower than many other professional one.. RM1500-1800 in normal firms, only big firms like Skrine, Wong & partners and those super firms pay Rm3000. Even when ur pupilage finish it is about RM2500-3000. and of course if your exam result cacat.... very very hard to find lohyar job one. so still put RM1500 first and let them see what you got. Okay, rm1,500 got it |
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I sent 1 resume, to 1 company, they call me next day, set interview date, and was hired during day of interview
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I have sent out more than 150 job applications and still menganggur
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dont gip up ts. good luck!
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 01:38 PM) For chambering, do i pick a small or bik bik firm? ppl say if you wanna learn more things then go small firm coz you gonna do everything lol from litigation to conveyancing even IPO sometimes... lol Later when admitted to bar liaw, i go work for small or bik2 firm? But if you want fame and money then go to big firm. It is more specialised but you get more money and more famous next time when you are accepted into their bench. to begin with, make sure you know whether u wanna play litigation or conveyancing. both are miles difference. normally fresh grad go litigation first coz everything is still fresh in mind. then go decide properly after u finish ur pupilage aka chambering. but try to learn as much as possible during ur pupilage coz after that year u gonna be professional where clients listen to your advise. if u aper pun tarak tahu then client gonna palm face liao. oO btw, conveyancing is very boring for new pupils... lol and also.... many firms wanna hire conveyancing coz nobody wanna do.... lol.... try more firms... last i heard, Raja, Daryl and Loh is looking for someone. But that was last month, donno anything about it now. You can too try Manjit Singh Sachdev, Mohammad Radzi & partners. This post has been edited by liez: Jul 24 2013, 01:47 PM |
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when i look for my first job before.i sent out about 60+ like that..
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i placed resume in jobstreet... head hunter look for me while i goyang kaki at home...
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 01:10 PM) over the past 2 weeks, ive sent out 12 resumes for pupillage applications You ask for how much...?Pupilllage- sort of internship for lawyers So far no luck inb4 me is kudapink :3 You ask too much kot....I have never heard any firm turning down cheap labour before also? Or you too choosy, choosing big firms only...small firms dowan to consider? |
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chambering is it?
Not many place for internship in law firms. Why don't you try the small firms with one, two or three lawyers? If you try those big big like Skrin & Co, Shern Delamore, chances r you will have to wait long or maybe never get any offer at all. Or go for commercial la. A lot of banks hiring law grads. |
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 01:10 PM) over the past 2 weeks, ive sent out 12 resumes for pupillage applications Am not a lawyer, but has been a manager at an IT company but this could be useful advise.Pupilllage- sort of internship for lawyers So far no luck inb4 me is kudapink :3 1. LLB chambering is seasonal. At this point of time, this is the season where application from UIA students are a lot. Expect competition. 2. I have seen some IT grads resume and a few LLB grads resume that looks like a form 3 product. Resume are the representation of oneself before the interview. I assume and believe, your is much better. 3. At this point of time also, there has been request from many institutions also for their Law related courses student for 1,2,3 months practical for their student. 4. Try find firms that has such vacancy. Remember firm has to consider whether they have enuff resource for pupilage. Eg, place for u to sit, computer for u to work, budget for your allowance. I dont think you would want a place that gives no allowance. 5. 2 weeks is short. most firms are busy, their current responsibilities are their 1st important priorities. Some firms also want to kumpul a few resumes before calling for interview. Expect 1-1.5 months. 6. You can also follow-up by calling. 7. Most older firms are less IT savvy, even some partners dont know how to open email. Y dont you make calls to enquire. my 2 cents |
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Jul 24 2013, 01:50 PM) You ask for how much...? I didnt state expected salary in my letter...this i will nego during interviewYou ask too much kot....I have never heard any firm turning down cheap labour before also? Or you too choosy, choosing big firms only...small firms dowan to consider? I sent resume to mid sized firms, less than 10 partners |
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 01:38 PM) For chambering, do i pick a small or bik bik firm? Actually, it depends on which area you wanna practice.Later when admitted to bar liaw, i go work for small or bik2 firm? You wanna go liti, convey or corporate. Then you go choose the appropriate firm that does the appropriate work. |
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QUOTE(Berhoff @ Jul 24 2013, 01:51 PM) chambering is it? If the fella wanna practice he must work in a law firm la...Not many place for internship in law firms. Why don't you try the small firms with one, two or three lawyers? If you try those big big like Skrin & Co, Shern Delamore, chances r you will have to wait long or maybe never get any offer at all. Or go for commercial la. A lot of banks hiring law grads. If want to go in-house different story But anyway he have even grad yet... |
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QUOTE(liez @ Jul 24 2013, 01:32 PM) let me tell you la... lohyar at first is lower than many other professional one.. RM1500-1800 in normal firms, only big firms like Skrine, Wong & partners and those super firms pay Rm3000. Even when ur pupilage finish it is about RM2500-3000. and of course if your exam result cacat.... very very hard to find lohyar job one. so still put RM1500 first and let them see what you got. walao... study so hard baru dapat rm3k.... those study IT degree join those MNC dapat freshy salary rm3k... then go up so fast.. few yrs time dapat 5 figure... look at J&C section... all crazy wan maybe its blessing in disguise i didnt get law last time |
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12 resumes only, go dai
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 01:55 PM) Kl.. Hmm...you haven't graduate yet right? You are only doing attachment only right?I dont want bik firm, later i got sidelined, I dont wan small chapalang law firm, which doesnt offer me career advancement opportunity Some small firms the lawyers are very established and well know. You could learn loads from them. As for career, when you chamber only you choose your firm you chamber in carefully if you wanna work for them... |
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Want easy in... then say you are willing to go conveyancing... straight away many firms want you.... lol.
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Jul 24 2013, 01:55 PM) If the fella wanna practice he must work in a law firm la... So no choice la, if cannot find, he has to work like slave for a small law firm. There are many around. He just go to bar council, get the list la, and apply to 40 or 50 firms if he has to. If KL cannot find, go to Klang or Kajang la. If want to go in-house different story But anyway he have even grad yet... Just struggle for 9 months, then find another job lor, this time in commercial. Btw is chambering still 9 months? |
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 01:58 PM) Aisey, say lah chamber I forgot the term pupillage alreadylah... Like that, mid sized firms more difficult to get in than big firms and small firms. You already explained the reason why. Why not try with big firm, if fail to get in then only apply with mid sized firm first? |
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 02:00 PM) True dat...and there's a reason for it...You willing to pull overnighters? Nowadays the courts move damn fast.... Do you like trawling through MLJ, CLJ to do research? You can take the stress, there is plenty of job openings for you.... |
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 02:00 PM) From what I heard, many firms want conveyancing coz nobody wanna do... lal chamby wants litigation coz that area baru look like loyar. conveyancing makes a loyar look like clerk.but dont lose hope, if u wan litigation then keep sending resumes out. dont stop. Try another 50 firms. |
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QUOTE(liez @ Jul 24 2013, 02:05 PM) From what I heard, many firms want conveyancing coz nobody wanna do... lal chamby wants litigation coz that area baru look like loyar. conveyancing makes a loyar look like clerk. Meh, some lawyers first came out of chambering wanna act like lawyers in LA Law doing liti.but dont lose hope, if u wan litigation then keep sending resumes out. dont stop. Try another 50 firms. Then turns out, many times kena burn midnight candle researching cases because closing oral arguments the next day, boss want you to research this point and that point. Tak boleh tahan, rather do convey..... Lawyers like me.... But it is fun if you can take the stress... |
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HAhaha.. all of you have been fooled by the education system promising a better carrier in life...
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Welcome to the real world b****es |
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Jul 24 2013, 02:15 PM
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Junior Member
203 posts Joined: Jun 2013 |
hantar resume ko kat se7en la OP..
ko kan kuda kat sini. hehe |
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Jul 24 2013, 02:16 PM
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203 posts Joined: Jun 2013 |
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Jul 24 2013, 02:17 PM
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Senior Member
1,176 posts Joined: May 2006 From: Memesia |
Look for production operator.. Sure can find
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Jul 24 2013, 02:50 PM
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Junior Member
33 posts Joined: Jan 2011 |
my friend last time told me he sent to 98 company..
only 18 call.. |
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Jul 24 2013, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member
1,288 posts Joined: Sep 2012 |
QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 01:31 PM) u pilih betul2..firm pon pilih betul2 jugakQUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 24 2013, 02:00 PM) Got huge demand..but not demand for u lar |
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Jul 24 2013, 04:00 PM
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Junior Member
422 posts Joined: Sep 2008 |
wait dulu, maybe havent see dulu
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