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 Is Proton Preve Power, Acceleration & Handling, Better Than Waja with Mitsubishi Engine?

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TSSportyHandling
post Jul 23 2013, 07:55 AM, updated 12y ago

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To those who want to ask me to go test drive the Preve, please note that I will test it this coming Saturday, so dont' waste your time asking me to test drive.

For those who have driven both the Waja 1.6 with Mitsubishi engine and the Preve 1.6 top model with CFE Turbo engine, may I ask which vehicle has better handling and driving dynamics in tackling corners and better stability on the highways at 110km/h to 140km/h? I do know the Preve CFE Turbo's 0-100km/h acceleration at 9.6s is better than most common 2.0-litre passenger vehicles. IN this sense, the Preve CFE Turbo is quite powerful.

The fuel efficiency of the Preve is not very good right? Since the car is quite heavy being ANCAP 5 star rated and having the CFE Turbo thing.

Just a bit concerned on reliability problems - sound from dashboard, doors, suspension, and wind sound from windscreen etc.

Thanks.
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post Jul 23 2013, 08:33 AM

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Thanks for all the feedback. Looks like the Preve's handling and driving dynamics are better than Waja, which is a good thing, since the Waja's handling, to me, is better than Nissan Almera.

Overfloe, vibrating centre console of the Preve is not a good thing to hear, especially for a new car. But the Preve I sat early this year, a friend's car, it doesn't have any vibrating sound from the centre console. Guess it's just luck. Once there is sound coming out from the dashboard, that's it man. Once the dashboard is opened up to fix the sound, more sound will pop up.

As for the 0-100km/h acceleration, 9.6s may not be very powerful if compared to more powerful cars. However, for normal 1.6 to 1.8 litre vehicles, it is already considered powerful. Most 2.0-litre passenger vehicles register 10.0s to 11.0s in a 0-100km/h dash - Altis, Sylphy, Camry, Accord etc. Meanwhile, most 1.6-litre vehicles(non-turbo) takes about 12.0s to 12.5s to reach 100km/h from standstill.
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post Aug 7 2013, 07:36 AM

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SInce this thread is resurrected, just an update. I already got the Preve Turbo. The acceleration is confirmed to be much better than the Waja. As a matter of fact the power in acceleration is comparable and even more powerful than most 2.0-litre (non-Turbo) sedans in the market. The published specs of 0-100km/h of the Preve Turbo is 9.6s.

For those looking for handling and power in acceleration, the PReve Turbo is a good choice. It can attack corners with considerable ease and acceleration power is good. ALthough it is a CVT, the acceleration doesn't feel like it's coming from a CVT gear transmission but more like a powerful manual car. You can feel the gear changing as the car lunges forward, especially in low-speed acceleration.

However, one minor gripe. I find the sound of the Turbo engine and CVT gear during acceleration to be quite loud, even when cruising at between 80km/h to 110km/h. I find the sound of the Turbo engine to be louder than even the Waja. The Nissan Sylphy that I own is a much quieter car with much more refinement in terms of gear smoother gear transmission and NVH levels. The steering feel of the Sylphy is lighter than the Preve Turbo and the leather seats are much more plush and comfortable than the thinner and firmer/harder fabric seats of the Preve Turbo.

Guess that is where the bad news ends. The Preve Turbo is tweaked or designed towards sporty handling, so NVH isn't that great. But if one is into power, handling and driving dynamics, it may very well be suitable for you.
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post Aug 7 2013, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Aug 7 2013, 07:57 AM)
i tested Preve car, but i managed to get 2000rpm @ 100km/h under CVT mode / 2500rpm @ 1000km/h (manual mode 7th gear)... seem still contribute some for lesser engine noise... or maybe i get use to heard the engine roaring on myvi and i cant differentiate the noise...  tongue.gif

hence CVT gearbox are smooth, i almost feel nothing on the gearbox shifting will accelerate from 0-100km/h unless we changed to manual mode or press paddle shift sure have the jerking feeling...

anyway, RM67k for CFE C-segment car (discount RM6k from RM73k) for Proton's quality and functionality... RM67k MAY able to buy oversea car B-segment with NA functionality... so no complaint on Proton if compare to oversea car...
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Thanks for the feedback. I think it is a bit unfair for me to compare the noise levels of the Preve Turbo with the Nissan Sylphy. Anyway, if compared to other lower range cars, I think it is more or less similar.

Yes, for about RM69k(I wonder how you get RM67k) for the Preve Turbo, there isn't much to complain on the vehicle. The power in acceleration, handling, features and size of the car you get, you can't get anything similar below RM100k. All the complaints on the Proton quality etc. rattling sound, defects etc. all not really justified. I find it to be a good car at its price range.
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post Aug 7 2013, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Aug 7 2013, 08:25 AM)
Those oversea car are in-comparable as PAID for quality, the oversea manufacturer invested for NVH research and that that the reasons why the price is higher even though without the 10% taxation...

Imagine if Proton invested for NVH research too, i guess the quality & pricing are comparable with oversea car... i guess Proton no tended to going for it as no points for head-to-head competition (price and quality) and rather strip down the invest of NVH research for better pricing... example oversea car more toward NHV and comfort, proton car more toward performance and pricing... at least each cars have their own market rather than all market went to Perodua's sales if we cant afford expensive Proton too... smile.gif

RM6k (this month) discount from Proton Sea Park agent...

anyway, even a H brand new car JUST out from showroom have facing the engine auto shutdown issues and forced tow back to SC after first few hours... the thread still around here...

So none of the car is prefect in this world, as long as dont have big issues will be fine (at least drive-able back to home and SC later)...  smile.gif
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Gosh, I wonder how the Proton salesman at the Sea Park branch manage to do RM6k. The most I can get is RM3.5k+RM1k.

Yes, agreed with what you have said. All cars have their own shares of problems. Not only Proton. As I have mentioned elsewhere in other threads, cars are mechanical, and since they are always on the road they will be subjected to wear and tear, so some minor rattling sound or noisy suspension will happen sooner or later. Not really a big issue. I also own the Sylphy, and now after 5 years, the suspension begins to give problems due to wear and tear. It is very true that there isn't a "perfect" car. FWIW even my cousin's brand new BMW 3 series, he complained there is some minor rattling sound from the rear of the car.

Personally I feel the Preve is good value for those looking at a sedan vehicle of this size and price range. Just the Proton badge that steers some people away. It depends on what the individual wants in the selection of vehicle. If he wants something small, light and fuel efficient, then he would be better off with Vios. For me, I want a mid-sized sedan with solidity and stability on the highways, safety, power in acceleration and handling. The Preve Turbo has no peers at its price range.


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post Jan 28 2014, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(sranua @ Jan 27 2014, 05:18 PM)
I enjoy reading this as input from Preve owner is much more important. But as my classmate who bought the 1st batch Preve....just don't ask him about Preve as he had bad experience with his car.
Some people got good car and some don't.
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I think the common letdown of Proton vehicles is the fittings, which over time will turn to rattling sound. My vehicle now has some minor rattling sound from the gearbox and driver's door panel. But it's not to the point of annoying yet. It's certainly not perfect in terms of rattling noise from loose parts which comes up more often these days with the mileage just approaching 11,000km, but in terms of power and handling the Preve Turbo still delivers.

 

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