To those who want to ask me to go test drive the Preve, please note that I will test it this coming Saturday, so dont' waste your time asking me to test drive.

For those who have driven both the Waja 1.6 with Mitsubishi engine and the Preve 1.6 top model with CFE Turbo engine, may I ask which vehicle has better handling and driving dynamics in tackling corners and better stability on the highways at 110km/h to 140km/h? I do know the Preve CFE Turbo's 0-100km/h acceleration at 9.6s is better than most common 2.0-litre passenger vehicles. IN this sense, the Preve CFE Turbo is quite powerful.

The fuel efficiency of the Preve is not very good right? Since the car is quite heavy being ANCAP 5 star rated and having the CFE Turbo thing.

Just a bit concerned on reliability problems - sound from dashboard, doors, suspension, and wind sound from windscreen etc.

Thanks.

Driven both, Preve is much superior in handling, taking a corner at 100kmh felt smooth

Waja is better for city driving (less FC), but on highway or uphill, you can guess the winner

i guess its about new cars vs old cars..
imho, preve is more superior than waja in all ways..

The centre console of the dashboard will vibrate whenever you floor the pedal. I do not know if Proton has managed to fix this, but this is what happened to my cousin's preve.. otherwise it is more refined than wajunk.

Btw, acceleration at 9.6s is NOT powerful.

I believe they have. No rattling vibration or sound at all in my CFE

Thanks for all the feedback. Looks like the Preve's handling and driving dynamics are better than Waja, which is a good thing, since the Waja's handling, to me, is better than Nissan Almera.

Overfloe, vibrating centre console of the Preve is not a good thing to hear, especially for a new car. But the Preve I sat early this year, a friend's car, it doesn't have any vibrating sound from the centre console. Guess it's just luck. Once there is sound coming out from the dashboard, that's it man. Once the dashboard is opened up to fix the sound, more sound will pop up.

As for the 0-100km/h acceleration, 9.6s may not be very powerful if compared to more powerful cars. However, for normal 1.6 to 1.8 litre vehicles, it is already considered powerful. Most 2.0-litre passenger vehicles register 10.0s to 11.0s in a 0-100km/h dash - Altis, Sylphy, Camry, Accord etc. Meanwhile, most 1.6-litre vehicles(non-turbo) takes about 12.0s to 12.5s to reach 100km/h from standstill.

I own a Waja manual and i've test driven the Preve CFE. In terms of power, the 'pull' is not really there but the speed is actually pretty fast when you look at the speedo. Handling wise it's pretty good actually with the stock setup and the ESP really does kicks in. During my test drive there was one corner i took so hard the ESP kicked in with lights flashing on my dashboard

the brakes on the car is also pretty good and the cabin noise is simply superb. Test using a db meter on my android device, the Preve while cruising at highway speeds is actually equivalent to my mom's Harrier which is pretty damn good

My friend's unit doesn't have any dashboard sound as mentioned but the CVT whine is apparent during hard driving.

i've owned and driven a waja manual and preve CFE
in terms of acceleration, let's just say preve is nothing without its turbo...its too heavy
but when the turbo kicks in, acceleration is effortless...so u need to hit a certain RPM and speed for the turbo to kick in....startup from standstill is pretty slow since turbo didn't kick in yet
handling wise, better...since new car vs old car

Driven Waja auto, power wise, still ok to use in town. Going Genting is abit slow. Most sucks about Waja is the turning radius. Most of the time cannot clear the U-turn at traffic light.

No offence . But were you high when you were cornering at 100 kmph ?

The ride height is high beyond believe, the tyres are 16 inch with super high side walls .

cornering in that preve feels like I have a death wish .

If you want to drive like a rempit in that car, you need to change the tires . suspension optional .

power wise, definitely more powerful then the waja .

This is from when u drive it or just from your observation?

You would only know when you have done it, but apparently, you haven't

This car is capable of doing so

9.6 sec is not that fast. but having 205nm at 2000rpm is good.
preve ground clearance is 155mm..a bit high..but not to say unstable.
handling dynamics sometimes refer to good in both handling and comfort level.
205/55 tyre is not that 'super' high. suitable for normal and comfort sedan.

Rev that high RPM not worry CVT faulty issue or overheat after that...?

i watch the car being tested vs persona..preve did a good job in controlling body roll.

For normal driving (80-110kmh), the RPM hardly goes over 2.5k, most of the time it's only 2k.

To me there are only two cons of this Preve, which Waja has the advantages, the higher FC and also the sluggishness from idle to moving.

I have done it .

And it doesnt feel composed or safe .

I thought the CFE is quite stable and responsive in handling despite its tall ride height. Maybe the suspension and front roll bar very stiff so the car turns in quite sharply.

Too bad for you then. I feel this is another valuable advantage of this car, even my City felt heavy and starting to roll when taking corner at that speed.

ya I know preve can do so since I can tackle some corner in standard viva at 100kmh leng leng..
I just questioning omnimech statement..

You have no idea what the definition of handling in a corner is then .

Checking out . before someone says I am biased .

90 kph - 1800 RPM
110 kph - 2300 RPM

at 90 kph steady steady state, cruise control on, I got 5.5 L/100 km (18.1 km/L) on the instant FC. That was yesterday, middle lane on ELITE highway.

I understand what is handling in a corner.. thats why i say leng2.. leng leng =easily..

there is a different between tackle a corner leng leng and having hard time in tackling a corner where u need to control the weight transition all the time, u messed up or transfer it to fast,sure die... 100kmh still easy la.

Conering and aceleration in very good for me. My problems so far got got dashboard panel coming out left side of the steering. My side window krek krek but proton servis change now no problem. Aceleration from standstill sure got dragging and saga sound. Not rattle but very close. It goes away at high speed.
Aceleration is the best for the price level.

Y use inspira? Without the rear 50kg metal bar, it is just a gl chasis. Nowhere near lancer gt

See the name also know. Sure butthurt everytime kena smoke by a Preve on the road.

No. Driven both before,same Mitsubishi Waja and preve CFE. Waja is more responsive starting off the line and when you stomp the pedal and better handling and lower fuel consumption. But preve have better acceleration,overtaking,more powerful,high speed stability,better comfort and most important,better sound proof. Preve feels sluggish at first and get better once it gain momentum,a.k.a.the magical 2000rpm. But Waja is more eager and willing to go. overall,getting a preve is an upgrade from Waja.

Preve vs viva even saga drives better than viva la dei.

Waja mitsu is SOHC + cable throttle.

Preve "features" Campro drive-by-wire throttle lag + CVT + the older ECU tuning that focuses more on fuel economy.

One excels in acceleration from standstill, the other excels in high speed acceleration.

Preve using 32 bits or 64 bits ECU ?

How is Civic handling compares to Inspira and Preve ?

What rear 50 kg metal bar is that ? that's 110 Lbs.

32

Civic is the nicest car I ever driven! the handling and the eagerness and the sharp braking

Furious when I found out my mom giving it away for free and buy preve instead.

Obviously they don't really know what is a corner, and they proud of themselves by winning Viva in a slightly curved road with the speed of 100kmh~, with a Preve.

Even with my old school Honda City + anti-roll bar installed, when clearing a tight corner/curve exit with the speed of 80+, already can feel the risk of over-steer/under-steer/rollover getting close.

That's when a Preve will come overtaking you equipped stock standard with strut bars and anti-roll bars, multilink rear suspensions and ESP in case things gets awry.

are u refering moded handling vs standard faktory fit?

Mine is standard factory fit anti-roll bar, not so crazy about modding yet~

I thought after persona SE all use 64bit ecu?

no la, all Proton cars since Persona SE (Saga FLX, Preve, Exora CFE) uses 32-bit ECU. Previously they were using 16-bit.

Not sure what the new Neo is using, though.

did i say viva better than preve?learn to read properly la dei..

Did I say you say viva is better than preve?learn to read properly la dei.

oh mai..... most of the posts here made me laugh. what had FnF turned into this days.

Preve is not a sport car.

whether iafm+ or turbo also will not satisfied for racing.

I owned iafm+ cvt. Pickup, lagging and underpower. Especially full load.
Once at the highway, the car will feel light and more power between 110-140 km/h, maybe because of CVT, Stability is there with firm ride and heavy feel. Some say continental feel.

The spirit of AW has been brought over here to LY.

according to jaytheorogy, inspira is just a lancer gl chasis nowhere near lancer gt chasis becoz different at the rear metal bar that weight 50kg.( according to his thai brochure)

SInce this thread is resurrected, just an update. I already got the Preve Turbo. The acceleration is confirmed to be much better than the Waja. As a matter of fact the power in acceleration is comparable and even more powerful than most 2.0-litre (non-Turbo) sedans in the market. The published specs of 0-100km/h of the Preve Turbo is 9.6s.

For those looking for handling and power in acceleration, the PReve Turbo is a good choice. It can attack corners with considerable ease and acceleration power is good. ALthough it is a CVT, the acceleration doesn't feel like it's coming from a CVT gear transmission but more like a powerful manual car. You can feel the gear changing as the car lunges forward, especially in low-speed acceleration.

However, one minor gripe. I find the sound of the Turbo engine and CVT gear during acceleration to be quite loud, even when cruising at between 80km/h to 110km/h. I find the sound of the Turbo engine to be louder than even the Waja. The Nissan Sylphy that I own is a much quieter car with much more refinement in terms of gear smoother gear transmission and NVH levels. The steering feel of the Sylphy is lighter than the Preve Turbo and the leather seats are much more plush and comfortable than the thinner and firmer/harder fabric seats of the Preve Turbo.

Guess that is where the bad news ends. The Preve Turbo is tweaked or designed towards sporty handling, so NVH isn't that great. But if one is into power, handling and driving dynamics, it may very well be suitable for you.

i tested Preve car, but i managed to get 2000rpm @ 100km/h under CVT mode / 2500rpm @ 1000km/h (manual mode 7th gear)... seem still contribute some for lesser engine noise... or maybe i get use to heard the engine roaring on myvi and i cant differentiate the noise...

hence CVT gearbox are smooth, i almost feel nothing on the gearbox shifting will accelerate from 0-100km/h unless we changed to manual mode or press paddle shift sure have the jerking feeling...

anyway, RM67k for CFE C-segment car (discount RM6k from RM73k) for Proton's quality and functionality... RM67k MAY able to buy oversea car B-segment with NA functionality... so no complaint on Proton if compare to oversea car...

Thanks for the feedback. I think it is a bit unfair for me to compare the noise levels of the Preve Turbo with the Nissan Sylphy. Anyway, if compared to other lower range cars, I think it is more or less similar.

Yes, for about RM69k(I wonder how you get RM67k) for the Preve Turbo, there isn't much to complain on the vehicle. The power in acceleration, handling, features and size of the car you get, you can't get anything similar below RM100k. All the complaints on the Proton quality etc. rattling sound, defects etc. all not really justified. I find it to be a good car at its price range.

Those oversea car are in-comparable as PAID for quality, the oversea manufacturer invested for NVH research and that that the reasons why the price is higher even though without the 10% taxation...

Imagine if Proton invested for NVH research too, i guess the quality & pricing are comparable with oversea car... i guess Proton no tended to going for it as no points for head-to-head competition (price and quality) and rather strip down the invest of NVH research for better pricing... example oversea car more toward NHV and comfort, proton car more toward performance and pricing... at least each cars have their own market rather than all market went to Perodua's sales if we cant afford expensive Proton too...

RM6k (this month) discount from Proton Sea Park agent...

anyway, even a H brand new car JUST out from showroom have facing the engine auto shutdown issues and forced tow back to SC after first few hours... the thread still around here...

So none of the car is prefect in this world, as long as dont have big issues will be fine (at least drive-able back to home and SC later)...

Gosh, I wonder how the Proton salesman at the Sea Park branch manage to do RM6k. The most I can get is RM3.5k+RM1k.

Yes, agreed with what you have said. All cars have their own shares of problems. Not only Proton. As I have mentioned elsewhere in other threads, cars are mechanical, and since they are always on the road they will be subjected to wear and tear, so some minor rattling sound or noisy suspension will happen sooner or later. Not really a big issue. I also own the Sylphy, and now after 5 years, the suspension begins to give problems due to wear and tear. It is very true that there isn't a "perfect" car. FWIW even my cousin's brand new BMW 3 series, he complained there is some minor rattling sound from the rear of the car.

Personally I feel the Preve is good value for those looking at a sedan vehicle of this size and price range. Just the Proton badge that steers some people away. It depends on what the individual wants in the selection of vehicle. If he wants something small, light and fuel efficient, then he would be better off with Vios. For me, I want a mid-sized sedan with solidity and stability on the highways, safety, power in acceleration and handling. The Preve Turbo has no peers at its price range.

U sure 2000rpm @ 100km/h?
It is 2000rpm @ 90km/h actually. That's the RPM I saw on my preve for the past 11 months.

I do agree that the seat can be better, its a bit thin and firm. Wish to have more cushion as support, would be great for long distance travel.

The NVH can be quite normal and I DIY some soundproof material on the car (4 doors, floor panel and roof panel), the NVH improves by a huge margin.

And ya, the BAX2 is super noisy and lousy tyre.


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This post has been edited by allenultra: Aug 7 2013, 09:36 AM

erm... should not be seeing wrongly unless is my angle view problem...
maybe slightly higher 2100-2200rpm @ 100km/h

joined but not register as member as not car yet...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Aug 7 2013, 10:25 AM

Confirm is 2000rpm at 90km/h
110km/h will be around 2300rpm

wta is cfe = premium version = with turbo, and the executive = cps = no turbo

You're correct about premium.

But the executive is IAFM+, no CPS.

Hearing out many good feedbacks from the car user satisfied is a good sign.. I actually also curious of how the car performing...lastime we have a Waja at home....quite good power also for normal car...so I can imagine how much improvement is the preve T

comparing waja and preve is like comparing apple and orange.
Waja is ten years back technology. What you expect lol. Funny comparison

I enjoy reading this as input from Preve owner is much more important. But as my classmate who bought the 1st batch Preve....just don't ask him about Preve as he had bad experience with his car.
Some people got good car and some don't.

ford focus handling is all done by computerized ? preve handling is all physics and bolts and nuts?

Just like a computer, you need both hardware and software.

110km/h to 140km/h? no talk la viva 1.0 can do that

what about Waja CPS vs 4G18 in terms of acceleration and handling?

better or worse?

I think the common letdown of Proton vehicles is the fittings, which over time will turn to rattling sound. My vehicle now has some minor rattling sound from the gearbox and driver's door panel. But it's not to the point of annoying yet. It's certainly not perfect in terms of rattling noise from loose parts which comes up more often these days with the mileage just approaching 11,000km, but in terms of power and handling the Preve Turbo still delivers.

The differences between the two cars are the power, safety, confidence, comfort and experience you can have.

My preve Acceleration.




Cheap Rm80 Ayam Mod and Cable Tie worth RM 35.

The Cable tie mod almost eliminated the turbo lag and my car has no Dashboard rattling sound what so ever.

As for handling the Preve is difficult for town driving as everything feels heavy but on mid to high speed, no car below 100K can beat it.

What app is that? On android yes?

Yes, Racing Tester app.

walaweh lucky you no rattle, all over the place in preve forum ppl dismantle everything to pinpoint the crazy rattle.

But i got rattling noise at rear parcel shelf. Still not solved after 3 service, but later I find solution myself. right now no time to TLC with the car yet.

PrevoC member?

Thank you.
Hmm... 8 sec. Not bad obama.