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post Jul 24 2013, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 24 2013, 04:06 PM)
staff pun lupa how to link vids tongue.gif
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That is because this staff does not post many vids in Lowyat.. I got so used to posting in FB that I used the FB link instead of our own youtube tags.
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post Jul 24 2013, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 24 2013, 01:12 PM)
What dyno chart fails to show you is the small difference (yes, it's only small..) in throttle response that you get when you run with non-paper filters. Changes like throttle response from 30% to 50% is where you feel the difference.
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yeap exactly the same as my experience. while i cannot quantify my throttle response improvement, it certainly makes it easier to perform sudden/on-demand accelerations for overtaking or just simply wanting to speed faster.

and yes i've ran my carb without filter vs proton's ori filter, the difference is there so i figured that K&N's improved air flow (without much compromise in filtration) would benefit me.
the oil/having carb dirtier is also not too huge of a concern since i use 3bond carb/throttle cleaners pretty regularly because i can't stand slow throttle responses anyways tongue.gif

in the end the only thing as i mentioned holding me back was the stupid pricing, which i gave in when it was on 20% discount nod.gif

QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 24 2013, 04:11 PM)
That is because this staff does not post many vids in Lowyat.. I got so used to posting in FB that I used the FB link instead of our own youtube tags.
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hehe fair enough tongue.gif

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and i believe certain ECU do take a lil time to adjust to the new amount of airflow received after changing the air filter. Correct me if i'm wrong
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post Jul 30 2013, 08:22 AM

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to answer ur question TS, between K&N & Works...which one better..i don't know. But i'm using K&N

as for those who said paper filter is better than K&N filter...well i'm sure they never used
K&N filter b4.

price wise probably (rm10/20000km vs rm230/40000km but usable). Not that u can expect a big
increment in HP but i can assure its definitely feels different compared to stock filter
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post Jul 30 2013, 08:32 AM

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must try all and feels different... but i'm using K&N...
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post Jul 30 2013, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(LOceng @ Jul 30 2013, 08:32 AM)
must try all and feels different... but i'm using K&N...
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Good topic.

I'm also contemplating in works or k&n.
Works cost Rm 150 while k&n rm 270.
Almost double....

I'm using k&n drop in for my savvy, every 10k, I will clean the filter and oil them without fail.
I won't say there's any improvement, just my engine can breathe better and cleaner.
Hearsay drop in helps in pick up.


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QUOTE(kurty @ Jul 30 2013, 09:57 AM)
Good topic.

I'm also contemplating in works or k&n.
Works cost Rm 150 while k&n rm 270.
Almost double....

I'm using k&n drop in for my savvy, every 10k, I will clean the filter and oil them without fail.
I won't say there's any improvement, just my engine can breathe better and cleaner.
Hearsay drop in helps in pick up.
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wow u very rajin 10k km already service eh? mine i did it every 40k km atleast
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post Jul 30 2013, 11:10 AM

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go for k&n...works got so many imitation stuff...
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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Jul 30 2013, 11:06 AM)
wow u very rajin 10k km already service eh? mine i did it every 40k km atleast
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haha, i always believe in maintaining the car, in return, it will serve you well.

i'm using amsoil since day 1 for my savvy, from engine to gear to steering..
kinda expensive but really good..
only this recent year, then i begin to cut corners..

somemore my savvy got CAI, so very responsive biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kurty @ Jul 30 2013, 01:46 PM)
haha, i always believe in maintaining the car, in return, it will serve you well.

i'm using amsoil since day 1 for my savvy, from engine to gear to steering..
kinda expensive but really good..
only this recent year, then i begin to cut corners..

somemore my savvy got CAI, so very responsive  biggrin.gif
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agree. long-term investment, and a important thing car is not sitting roadside with emergency lights thumbup.gif
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Fm my point of view..its a combination factor.it is impossible to gain soooo much power if one just use the replacement air filter.kn or even works will perform better if we consider factor such as;
1. Spark plug.always cx the recommended gap.either standard,iridium,platinum etc..
2.throttle body. Cleaner is better.
3.voltage stabilizer plus grounding cable.
4.silicon cable plug.
Fit these 4 together with kn or works,and you shall feel the different.other things to consider are
1.tyre condition.always adhere to manufacture recomendation.
2.accesorries installed in car.easy to understand.more gadjet installed..more power needed.
And so many other factor to consider.
Kn or work surely will nott make your stock kancil into lancer turbo performance.not in life,not even in a dream.kn or works goal is to give effiency and smoothess.
Proven on my brother's 20 years old proton.smoothess and efficiency that we want.not suddens turbo performance.thats riddicilous.lol.
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QUOTE(MrRookie @ Oct 29 2015, 09:03 AM)
Fm my point of view..its a combination factor.it is impossible to gain soooo much power if one just use the replacement air filter.kn or even works will perform better if we consider factor such as;
1. Spark plug.always cx the recommended gap.either standard,iridium,platinum etc..
2.throttle body. Cleaner is better.
3.voltage stabilizer plus grounding cable.
4.silicon cable plug.
Fit these 4 together with kn or works,and you shall feel the different.other things to consider are
1.tyre condition.always adhere to manufacture recomendation.
2.accesorries installed in car.easy to understand.more gadjet installed..more power needed.
And so many other factor to consider.
Kn or work surely will nott make your stock kancil into lancer turbo performance.not in life,not even in a dream.kn or works goal is to give effiency and smoothess.
Proven on my brother's 20 years old proton.smoothess and efficiency that we want.not suddens turbo performance.thats riddicilous.lol.
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you searched for a 2 yeard old topic?

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post Oct 29 2015, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 29 2015, 11:35 AM)
you searched for a 2 yeard old topic?
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Lol..thabks to him caused I'm reading it now haha.
It's an useful info btw.
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 29 2015, 12:35 PM)
you searched for a 2 yeard old topic?
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Lol.yes i did bro.since the thread still open.its never too late right?someone will read it one day.thanks to them.and you too for reading or viewing it.and information never get old bro.its expending.and that what i do.lol.
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 23 2013, 03:39 PM)
im using it, the difference isn't exactly huge nor do i have dyno to prove anything.

i would say though i like the air intake sound (despite being a carbie drop in rofl) that is louder as you approach red line and if anything, you create less waste as the filter usage is permanent (only need to buy their cleaning/re-charger kit)

oh you get cool k&n vinyls/stickers for your dull looking ufo carb lo whistling.gif
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I actually have a few dynos of stock car with stock drop in vs stock car with K&N drop in.

Stock (not very clean) - better torque, lower hp. K&N - lower torque, higher hp. Within 2 to 3nm and 2 to 3hp, that difference alone can also be attributed to error difference.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 22 2016, 01:22 PM)
I actually have a few dynos of stock car with stock drop in vs stock car with K&N drop in.

Stock (not very clean) - better torque, lower hp. K&N - lower torque, higher hp. Within 2 to 3nm and 2 to 3hp, that difference alone can also be attributed to error difference.
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Pretty much same result for the inspira hehe
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 22 2016, 01:57 PM)
Pretty much same result for the inspira hehe
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Polite way of saying no difference. lol
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 22 2016, 02:08 PM)
Polite way of saying no difference. lol
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Aye haha
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post Feb 22 2016, 05:41 PM

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I've used K&N before and sold it off before letting it slowly damage my engine. If you hold it up against background light, you'll see tiny holes in which fine dirt can go through. The size of the particles that can go through it is enough to cause engine harm.

I've switched to regular paper filter as it traps dirt better and did not notice a drop in performance. This is better long term wise in terms of engine health (piston seals etc). Just keep in mind to change it regularly every 20k-30k km.

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