see the picture for more detail.. i need to noe
-will it sound nice?
-will the sound run wild?

btw, juz take that all the speaker/amp i use is those decent quality n ingnoring all those branding etc n running cd player PIONEER DEH-1750 45Wx4
and also ingnoring all other factor such as rattling sound etc.. juz wana answer for both above


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how many speakers u need
u can either dump the rear comp or the 6 x 9
or dump both of them

then it will sound well

i say la, IF i put everything what will happen?
and 6x9 no use?

You have so many sets?! Whoa!

The 6x9 is not necessary, you can use the rear comp as rear fill... But 10"x2 is already enough.. Whoa! Keng.. I assume(I hate assuming! ) Very dynamic.. Can say that ka???

if i use 6x9 n cancel the rear comp set plan will it do well?

it wont be attacking but annoying

@imperialrealcs
u always with passengers or lonely driver ?

to answer your question

1. no
2. yes

disable all the stock speakers. damn difficult for u to tune the sound to the same level. what HU u using?

Yeah true. too many sound source... btw, if taking into consideration of the pioneer 1750, then i can say, the music become "wall music" cos if iam not wrong the 1750 is an entry level that comes with 1 pair pre out rated at 2.2v or something?

u r right i guess
1xxx is always the entry level

stay away from the 6x9 or any othher 3-way speakers for that matter if u plan to use woofers... the 6x9 will only spoil the bass.

in some setups (like my friends old kancil) the 6x9 actually killed the sound coming from the woofer.

so i say get rid of the 6x9 and also the 4" speakers.

the comps on the doors...put it on the rear shelf....

This post has been edited by mADmAN: May 17 2006, 11:29 AM

dont use the 6x9 ...
i believe if you use 6x9 it will be more louder and then u will notice your sound will come from behind instead of front

wo answer your question based on your pic...

-no. unless your are a SPL player where staging is not a concern...
-yes... too many source...


my suggestion, throw away all the speakers except for the front component and the subbies... while keeping all the amps...

cheers...

all is comp set n subs.. what do u mean by 'all the speaker'?

all the component, sub, 6x9, 4"mid-bass... everything tht you hav in mind for your setup... but keep the front component and the subbies... while keeping all the amps... other than tht all can uninstall liao...


cheers...

a decent HU, a decent comp set, a decent amp and a decent woofer will be enuf for a good sounding setup
some people insist to have rear speaker
then get a 4' coaxial is enuf d..power up by the HU
for the rear fill

in ICE..it's not the more speaker the merrier

yup...useless...cos u oredi hav woofer...
@@u always with passengers or lonely driver??
if lonely driver...jus forget the rear speaker lah... oso useless...expect u r playing 5.1 system

wat kind of sound u planning to play?? R&B?? SOFT?? DISCO?? BLA BLA BLA??

This post has been edited by kelvin_hata: May 17 2006, 11:28 PM

what us subbies?

most of the time not alone
not expecting 5.1 since my HU dont allow it..
most of the time R&B, sometimes trance..
i juz want my car no matter sit which position also got nice sounding, thats y come with this system

hmm.. your are driving a wira like me also... well actually if you only use a component set up front, then one 12" sub in the trunk with a custom built enclosure according to the sub recommendation... it will be better sounding than having a list of speakers... with a simple setup like this you will hav a front staging not matter where you sit in the car... but of cuz the rear passenger will loss a lil details and hav a lot of the low bass... but most of the time we cannot fulfill everyones need in the car... the most important ppl is you... cuz you are going to drive the car...

save up the money for those useless speakers to do some sound proof on your front door better... if it is enough

cheers...

i got mine a set of component install in front,
no rear and no sub yet
just HU>fron comp set
however, i found tat when i sitting at back,
the sound quality is better than i sit on my driver seat
coz when sit in front, my position is too close to 1 of the tweeter,
and the sound i heard is sumthing like sharp a bit and noisy,
when sitting at back, the tweeter and mid sound is coming very balance to the rear, and the sound is very nice compare wif sitting at front,
so any comment on how can i get better sound stage when i sit in front?

one thing might be your tuning if you are running active... mayb the gain are too high or the high-pass too low... causing the tweeter to be distorded... but if you are running passive then cannot tune unless you wan to DIY your custom crossover block...

another thing might be your placing... point the tweeters away from you... mayb you are aiming them too directly towards you...

one way is to point the left tweeter to the driver's left ear while pointing the right tweeter to the passanger's right ear...

if still very sharp... then point the tweeters facing each other on the dash... but this way usually you will lose a lil bit of the details... but i am using mine like this too... but place on the center of the A-pillar where is height is almost the same height of my ears when i am sitting in the car... found tht it gives me more natural sound...

hope it helps... and correct me if i am wrong...

cheers...

I angled both my tweeters towards the windscreen. No loss in details. In the end, it would boils down to your equipments.

Does your front component cross over allows you to step down the tweeters? Lower it down. Usually, a new comp set would be at 0db. When I got mine done, I set it down to -3db. Its not so bright.

you mean you angled the tweeter towards the front windscreen?

my compset is wif passive crossover,
so not much i can tuned, and i already tuned it to the lowest
however there is 2 button on the xover
1 is 3 option, 3db,0,-3db...i set it to -3db
another is 6db,full<<<this one is wat? i set it to 6db
and yeap my tweeter is sumthing like left tweeter to passenger right ear, and right to my left ear, almost is facing me straight
i also think of placing it like wat the bro suggest here, left to my right ear, so i get clarify here and i'll try tat.
besides, got bro suggest me to place flat the tweeter which facing upward, does this sound nice??

Craziechild,

Yes. Its part of my tweeter nature for being bright. My installer did a bad job in doing the A-pillar. But also due to the construction of the A-pillar itself has limitations.

Kangyoon,

What components are you using? I dont get you when you mentioned the setting.

soundstream lc.60c....
on the crossover,
there is 2 button can be adjust
1st is adjust btw 3db,0,-3db
2nd one is adjust btw 6db and FULL,
its state lidat beside the button

i think the first one is for your tweets and the second one is for your mid... not confirmed as i dun own and seen one of these passive blocks yet... my opinion is facing upward will be hard to get the centre stage... do you hav an amp to power the component? if yes, try to use -6db on the treble and bass... my tweets were very bright for me too last time when i run on 0db... then when i set to -6db, the harshness problem solved...


hmm... kangyoon... interesting thing but i never think bout an install like tht.. but anyhow... thanks for sharing...

cheers...

so sad i don own an amp,
so i only can do things on my passive xover and the tweeter setup
tmr i might pull down the tweeter and replace it,
wish me luck~~..haha

You dont have an amp? Then of course it is bright.

is it?
ya i'm struggle to get an amp too...but not so fast
getting a nice one nid to raise fund and lots of time~

look out for 2nd hand one... you might jump into some luck in getting a second hand good amp at half price...

ya a lot of senior suggest me to get a 2nd hand one if tight budget
instead of buying a chap ayam.
so the fact is most of the case a 2nd hand amp is good for use?
i mean did amplifier go thru wear and tear normally?

just now i just repositioning my tweeter,
left side point to head of driver, right site to passeger.
and yes the sound produce is much better than b4!
but placing a damn big tweeter on iswara dashboard is hard
now its stand firm there but it doesn look good,
and wif iswara "super vibration" sometime it "clap hand" wif my windscreen~~
now, anywhere i can get those dashboard carpet?
i wan long and thin like those oldiest singer put on body one..aha

amp gone thru wear and tear? hmm... never come across tht... but IMHO the best way to protect your amp is to run it as cold as possible tht is by giving it a good ventilation... add a computer fan for it if you wan...

and those cloth, my hometown here we always for to "cushion shop" where they deal with all kinds of cushion... these ppl do those fabriction work for our cars here... but in the west i cannot confirm is the same...

cheers...

I think it is running it at its optimum operating temperature.

oh so for the amp i think i will look out for 2nd hand one..
and the dashboard carpet,
got ppl selling online but just too expensive,
i think i will find in those "kedai jahitan" who had all kind of kain.
one piece of the thingy round on neck during winter one just suit for me i think
haha...maybe can ask the tukang jahit one winnie the pooh also~~

ya ya... run the amp at the optimum temperature... hehe... lost of words in my last post...

huh
the amp shud run at optimum temp?
sumthing like so the electrical part will perform its best
and allow more power to flow over it?
study abit during form4 form5 but forget d la..haha

so normally in the amp manual will show its optimum temperature??