Yea I know Abaddon is totally out for Elite because of his speed. But I've been enjoying using it to as starter past 2 weeks cause many people put Dagon as starter, so funny to see a Sapped Dagon lol.

My FFV Gilgamesh is Ironfist style, so good for starter sometimes haha. But when reach higher level, his Alm scratch can't KO the stronger starters de.

BTW, any Japanese GC players can confirm if the Neo Berneside Plains (Day) guardian can reborn with the old Berneside Plains (Day) guardian? Wanna prepare to stock up if possible.

It means that there's a colour bordered (Almighty, Mighty or Great) version of that card. So people will need it to reborn with their Almighty, Mighty or Great card.

For instance, if you wanna reborn your Mighty Phoenix, you'll need either another Mighty Phoenix or a regular Phoenix to reborn with it. So the regular Phoenix is the Almighty fodder.

Woahlao.....betul betul siao la you people, over offered until like that.

Also it seems like all the good type berneside plains day guardians are being bought up de. Strong chance that they can become rebirth fodders for the Neo Berneside Plains.

Erm, I value it at less than 30 stat iii. It's a bit outdated already...

Gandring > IQ & NB.

I saw the Neo Berneside Plains guardians stats & skills, not bad wo.....

For instance;

AceR Phoenix has 4294 Atk, 4266 Agi & 4402 Wis. It'll learn Revive, Fire3, Q-Strike, Wis20, Fire4, Giant Smash. So can build a Revive, QS & GS/Fire4.

AceR Valkyrie has 4509 Atk, 3937 Agi & 4580 Wis. It'll learn Deft Step, Light3, Wind4, Phy4, Light4, Atk&Wis10. So can build DS, Buff, Phy/Ele.

AceR Vampire Matron has 3869 Agi & 4044 Wis. It'll learn HP Drain, Dark3, MP Drain, Dark4, Revive, Death4. So she's a stronger version of Siren lol.

I think I'll try to get a Sonic Neo Phoenix. It's as good as Nike le!!

BTW, the golden question is.....Neo Berneside Plains got released first or Stormreach Snowfield (Night)?

This post has been edited by NightHeart: Sep 30 2013, 01:36 AM

There's an android version for GC, some of us are there.

Oh yea, so time to stock up on those old guardians.

I think Neo Phoenix is better than Nike. Valkryie could be as good as IQ or maybe better. Vampire Matron could be better than Nocturnal Banshee too.

So if it's better, people will surely hunt one.

The best offer I got for my chaotic DD is a Fast Nike & Fast Abaddon. I don't think fast Abbadon is a good rebirth fodder, only chaotic Abaddon is good.

I'm pm-ing a few people to trade it off too.

I think getting an Alm sexy DD is cheaper than a regular DD.
I'm not too sure about the others but I'm starting to encounter this. Quick Strike becomes less relevant in higher level. It's damage is like mosquito bite only! I think there's a different damage formula for QS damage, it's too little!

Isn't that a bad type DD?


It's a limited time quest.

As usual, bounded 5*
I totally regretted wasting my prismatic slime on my Ragnarok. Stoned him a bit some more, zzzz......
I hate bounded guardians.

Woahhh, so surprising to see SE releasing a non bounded guardian from quest! Ok, can hunt!! LOL.

Ragnarok useless one =.=!! Very high Def but any decent elemental attacker can KO him de. Wasted my prismatic slime & stones on him

Lucky you.

I got another one if you wanna reborn lol.


Most of the time you have to be proactively seeking & making the offers. So far after playing for nearly a year, only once someone just msg me out of the blue to make a fantastic offer (Ace Pandora for my Fast Mictlan).

I'm with fallenout here, plus I heard at high level coliseum.....chances of double attack is very low since most people have fast cards. So I'd choose +25% Atk just to boost his scratch after LS activates.

Reborn the cool one with your powerful one. Gilgamesh is actually a decent guardian, it's dirt cheap because nearly everyone has one at least.

Debuff is the "recommended" way to go la. Buff is useful to counter certain things only so it has limited uses.
In terms of arrangement, I'm guessing you need to know your opponent deck to know where to place your Odins. So that you can counter a specific guardian in their deck.

Lucky you!

Probably that's why we need to keep a huge variety of cards at higher levels. Different card for different use.

I used more than 5 NHTs already & still didn't appear.....zzz.....

Have you played DotA before? It's exactly like those passive aura skills except that they don't battle one. Just produce supportive "aura" from the bench to boost your 10 guardians or de-boost your opponent's 10 guardians. For instance, every guardian in party gets +5% Atk or all fire elemental guardians gets +10% wisdom or every opponent guardian Agi -5% etc etc.

Lol, kinda sad that a non reborn Chaotic Abaddon is more valuable than an AceR Abaddon.

This post has been edited by NightHeart: Oct 5 2013, 11:50 AM

Goodness.....AceR DZ ain't that bad, best tanker out there so far.

What's for next week's coliseum?
I usually just join without looking at the details lol, normally I only check when I can't join due to some restrictions haha.

I got 4* Ace, you wanna trade for stat iii stones instead? Wehehe.

Pick anyone you want, it's all the same price for you.

4* lvl 55 Ace
- Vampire
- Hecatoncheir
- Fafnir
- Narasimha
- Talos
- Balor
- Umbral Mermaid
- Qiong Ji (with Phy+3)
- Power
- Delphyne
- Guede
- Andras

4* Lv1 Ace
- Mitra (lv1)
- Adad (lv1)
- Cybele (lv1)
- Ramiel (lv1)
- Guede (lv1)
- Yamata no Gorochi (lv1)
- Marduk (lv1)

This post has been edited by NightHeart: Oct 5 2013, 09:32 PM

Lol sorry, price as in stones etc etc. We don't encourage real money trading, risky.

There's a real money trading thread somewhere la....died after few months because everyone goes there just to make some bucks only.

Just let me know which 4* you want, I'll send em to you & then we'll table out the weekly installment plan lol.

If you look at the coliseum reward page, you'll see from certain rank onwards, you'll get Magic Stone (III) as rewards. Those are stat iii stones. So Magic Stone (I) is stat i, Magic Stone (II) is stat ii. People hardly trade in stat i and stat ii, only once in a blue moon some cheapskate like me will trade for them because I don't wanna overstone my guardians.

I know it's kinda sad that basically if you're not strong enough, you'll never get stat iii stones. So let's work something out so that you'll be able to start getting stat iii from the coliseum. Then from there, you can save up stat iii stones which can be traded for 5* later on. Like how I've traded 11 stat iii for a Powerful Lilith just few minutes ago. It's the only method for crappy hunting luck fella like me to ever get a 5* guardian.