BTW for the newer players, where do you all live? So that we can fix the venue for the next TCSS session lol.

I got plenty of SS to trade off, you still need more?

Anyone wanna trade SS for stat iii?

Woah, wish I could join but I've lack of sleep lately.

He used to work in a girl infested company.....so you can figure la hahaha.

3 gathering so far, trust me hardly anyone actually plays during thr gathering. It's 99% TCSS lol.
I tried to organize a non-TCSS gathering but tak laku....no business....have to tutup kedai.

Yours for the Gandring? It depends, feels fair to me especially if you got another Gandring to reborn with.

Definitely possible especially when that 5* is an elemental attacker with low atk but high int.

Nope, so once in a while if people wanna be funny....they'll place all int guardian (try check out Dagon stats) in their deck to lower their average attack in coliseum to attract suckers lol.

I'm still on iOS4 lol, super outdated.

1GS gives as much exp as 3 SS. But I always try to trade my 1 GS for 4 SS lol. The main reason people do that is because they wanna save inventory space.

Before the recent version update, 1 iii = to 10 SS max. But now due to the new anti hack system, lots a hacked stones were knocked off the market so making stat iii more valuable now. I'm seeing people offering up to 14 SS for 1 stat iii. Last time during the introduction of new anti hack system, stat iii price went up to 20+ SS per stat iii. Some of you probably remember those days.

I think some people (minority) encounter various issues. Thought I saw some thread about it in GCF, so I'd say it depending on your luck >.<


Huge shadow is only available in Glavrow Volcano (Day). It's a guaranteed 4* with a little chance to get a 5* which is Gilgamesh.


Someone remind me to bring beer, booze, wine & liquor during the next meeting with Moronicus. We could get good trades after a while hahaha.

Biasa la haha.

Which type is good really depends on the guardian stats & skills.
For instance Juggernaut, he's slow as heck so in my opinion, fast Juggernaut is bad. But his Atk is very high, so a powerful Juggernaut may be good. Then Mephistopheles, he's an elemental caster so Int is definitely a good type for him. Plus since his agi is decent, so fast type is good too. Usually Sexy is a bad type no matter which guardian it is, because Sexy only boost MP which you don't need it to be as high as possible YET (in the future there will be a self destruct skill that deals damage based on balance MP).

Basically you must be able to analyse & judge which is good & which is bad. Of course, feel free to come here & get opinions too =)

Road tax, usually your insurance agent will prompt you no?

No it won't be sonic.
The prismatic slime basically means it can "morph" into any guardian, but unfortunately its type is still Cool. Unless in the future they release Fast Prismatic Slime, Chaotic Prismatic Slime, Int Prismatic Slime etc.....that'll be so imba LOL.

As for now, use it to reborn Ace & Cool only. I used mine to reborn my Ragnarok (which I've totally regret - should have known better that there's NO such thing as TANKING in GC yet).

Seems to me that Iblis is the people's favorite cause in the LF sub forum, most people are looking for Ace Iblis (especially unreborn one because he's so damn versatile). Funny to say, unreborn Iblis is more valuable than reborn Iblis. Unless you reborn it & keep Sap, MR & SD which is kinda reduce its performance.

I had Int Iblis & Chaotic Iblis, but I've traded them away & made a Sonic Gandring instead just because Sap, MR & SD are all gambling skills, which I totally hate >_<

I value the latest 5* in this order; Gandring (for stability), Iblis (for good stats) & Nike (good reviver - good speed & damage).

Cethlenn is just decent probably because of her messed up skill. She has counter & full barrier, those 2 skills totally contradict each other. If you have counter, you want to receive as much damage as possible, not to reduce it. So I'd remove the full barrier skill if I am using Cethlenn.

Apocalypse Beast is........well, can't double cast. That's a big no no for me.

This post has been edited by NightHeart: Sep 23 2013, 12:04 AM

Only Gandring & Iblis is overpriced, I don't blame them too cause it's the buyer that screwed up the market. On the first day when I caught a Fast Gandring & Int Iblis, I offered Int Iblis for a Fast Gandring. That fella reject (cause got better offer), then accepted (cause better offer gone) & then reject again (cause caught a Fast Nike & wanna use it as bullet to trade for Fast Gandring or vice versa) =.=!!

Finally I've traded my Chaotic Iblis + Cool Gandring for Fast Gandring. Kinda overpaid a little but the way I see it, people are indeed offer multiple aces for Fast Gandring. But they're old crappy aces like HF Phoenix, Kali, Anubis etc but those silly suckers eye went bling bling after seeing multiple aces offer & accepted right away.

MR is like the worst ever gambling skill to me cause you need to gamble for it to actually hit the enemy. Then you still need to gamble for the enemy to actually hit themselves & finally you don't even know whether after hitting themselves, they'll die or not. Triple the usual risk man with so many variables.....I might as well settle with Death+4, it's the most straight forward gambling skill - if it hits = KO. Simple & direct lol.

AB is good, but the problem is after building the "optimal AB", it still loses out to Dragon Zombie. Dragon Zombie can kill more & tank more compared to AB. Not to mention the hassle of looking for a Darkness+3.

Cethlenn is just an ordinary Physical Attacker to me. She has slightly more HP & Atk than usual, but her speed is the only problem her.

Nike is like the opposite version of Cethleen. Swap from physical into elemental & swap the high HP into high Agi. And because I like speed over anything else, I pick Nike over Cethlenn anytime. Nike's Revive is just a bonus, so some people might wanna do Skill+4 & Wis+45% for Nike to make her a pure glass cannon lol. But I'd opt for Revive, pretty happy with her damage already & wanna take a chance for her to KO 2 enemy instead.

This time around, SE gave the new guardians funny skills combination. Like for instance they gave Gandring Wis-20% when clearly Gandring is a physical attacker and they gave Cethlenn Counter & Full Barrier when those 2 are contradicting skill & also Wis-20% on Cethlenn when clearly she's a physical attacker.

Cethlenn stats are generally okay except for her Agi. Too slow to be in high tier coliseum. I'm still a speed demon lol.


Minotaur is too slow too lol. DZ is the best tanker now right?

Selkie still so good until today? Btw I don't see you guys talk about Oasis Sphinx much, isn't she the improved version of Morrighan?

Hmm, by the time I get selkie....she's probably outdated de lol.

The new skills on old Berneside Plains is called Neo Berneside I think. Heard about it, it's to make the old guardians stronger but I think some people mentioned it's still not as good as the newer cards. But some people already start stocking up on those old guardians. They wanna overprice when that new feature is out lol.


Yea, so DZ is the best tanker now heh.


I had a cool Gandring, would have taken yours if I still have it hehe. I suggest you to get a cool one & reborn it. Gandring is good =)

I've traded my int Iblis + 18 stat iii for a fast IQ. Felt I overpaid a bit but I was desperate to get rid of my fast IQ. No one wants her because they all said that they don't think they can find a reborn partner.....stupid extinct crap that can only reborn with themselves =.=!!

So I quickly get that IQ with my Int Iblis & reborn her into sonic. At least that way, can maintain her value a bit. At first I was damn worried. I got a fast IQ & Fast Carmilla, everyone rejected because they don't want to be stuck like me. Finally managed to trade them all away to people who have the reborn partner de.

I suggest you quickly get rid of that int Iblis while its hot cause Iblis type ranking is Fast>Chaotic:Sexy>Int>Cool>Brave. But there are people who wants int to reborn, so search for people who has int Iblis, chances of them wanting yours will be higher....that's how I traded off my IQ & Carmilla.

Yea like mentioned by FallenOut, everyone can get Idun & Artemis if you invite enough people to the game. By inviting, that means play for at least 30 minutes too, so you can't get someone to download GC & that's it.

If you invited 10 people, you'll get 2 Idun & 2 Artemis....so you can reborn them too.

Guy I wanna get your opinions here.

Recently I've started going into the feeders market, so I've start accepting feeders as part of my trades.

Now, I've encountered 2 abnormalities here.....I received 5 feeders, among those 5, 3 of them are Ace 4* guardians. So I felt a bit weird already, why treat 4* Ace as feeders if they can get a bit more since those are Ace.

Then I check their skill set, all of those 4* ace have the skills that they learned at lvl 1, 15 & 30 instead of the recommended skill set. That means those guardian are leveled from 1 to 55 without learn the skills at lvl 40 & 50.

So I can guess, somewhere is hacked. Either the card is hacked from the beginning or the card was hacked to level 55 instantly. What do you guys think? I know there are hacked feeders circulating around, don't know why people bother creating hacked feeders instead of hacked 5* but the fact remains that there are hacked feeders.

This post has been edited by NightHeart: Sep 25 2013, 12:27 PM

1 feeder that can level from 1 to 60 is confirmed hacked.

Duplication is an old hack, as far as I know that has stopped since January this year cause SE finally put a serial code onto each card. So if there's a duplicated card, the serial code will be the same. So it'll get caught instantly.

So what people usually do now, is take a non 5* card & "change" it into a 5* card. They can control what they want to change the card into, so that's why hackers normally turn it into 5* Ace cause it's the most valuable one. Highest return on investment in business term, that's why people don't trade aces with traders with low reputations.

Feeders value dropping is because of Stat iii value increasing. Heard it's because the latest version stopped stone hacking, so there's lesser stat stones iii in circulation but increased demand cause people wanna stone their new guardians. Thus increasing its price, it's around 12 ss per stat iii now.

It'll stop....for the moment lol. People will always find ways again to bypass the new security system one.
Then the stone value will go back to normal.

I'd advice not to take la, even though you can trade it off immediately so that you won't kena the bomb. But if the other traders kena the hack bomb, they'll report to moderators that they got it from you. Then when you said that you got it from a 3 rep fella......habis.

GCF people will track one where the Ace come from.

The last that I recall is, they can change any card into any card that they want. So hackers usually will "morph" a 1* or 2* card into a 5* card, ace type of course.

But this method got a weakness. The 1st skill that the original card cannot be changed. So another way to check hack cards is by looking at their skill set. Like for example a Gandring will DEFINITELY & ALWAYS have Quick Strike on the 1st slot. If your Gandring's quick strike is on the 2nd or 3rd skill slot....... www.gg.com

Just take note on that lo. Everything else can be changed except that now.

Great to hear that they've moved the more critical date to server side. Last time those critical data are stored client side, that's why it's so easily hacked.

Most people just get it & hopes it appreciate in value to resell later on.

Maybe it's super fresh from the oven?
But anyway, hackers can easily make new account.....so one IGN getting banned isn't a big issue.

What I usually do when I see not interesting offers is, I'll go check all their current thread to guess what cards do they have & ask for any interesting ones.

If I have patience to wait for better offers, I'll keep it. But if I don't have patience, I'll ask for slightly more so that I gain from the trade & hopefully can use those cards to get better cards.

In GCF there's a thread on it, created by our very own bro IceViper here if I'm recall correctly.

Just take note that Square Enix is the only company that loves to forever ban players with 0.01% chance of unbanning. Ask the seniors around here who went through the ban wave last time. Every week, hundreds and hundreds of players, both guilty & innocent got banned (mainly for having hacked cards). So we learn to keep ourselves safe.