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post Aug 9 2013, 10:47 PM

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For ddd camp, rich ppl keep on buying multiple units is not doubt a bad news because they might need to wait very long for price to drop.
But for those so call uuu camp with only a few units on hand, is rich ppl keep buying multiple units really benefit you? Think hard. Unless you also a super rich, else you will suffer in the end too.
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post Aug 9 2013, 10:48 PM

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For ddd camp, rich ppl keep on buying multiple units is not doubt a bad news because they might need to wait very long for price to drop.But for those so call uuu camp with only a few units on hand, is rich ppl keep buying multiple units really benefit you? Think hard. Unless you also a super rich, else you will suffer in the end too.
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post Aug 12 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Aug 12 2013, 11:23 AM)
am i in F&F thread..?????
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post Aug 12 2013, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(cwtien @ Aug 12 2013, 11:42 AM)
Fast and Furious...the only worthy Car thread in MY!

P.S. It's also in Lowyat forum.
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post Aug 12 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(doremon4 @ Aug 12 2013, 12:27 PM)
You should understand that people are buying cars to evade tax in business, but you can't do that in property. In business tax, car is a depreciating asset and accounts for business cost spread across 3-5 years. Property is a fixed asset in your balance sheet which does not depreciate, so , not deductible for taxes. In other words, if this year your business makes a lot of money, let's say 1 mil profit, you tax should be around 250K. instead, you might decide to buy a 500K car, spread the cost across 5 years, (100K each year), and you save 25% off the car you purchased. That's a lot of money and perceived value. People will think you own a 500K car but in fact, it just cost 375K and it is out of company expenses. You can't do that with property and the worse part is LHDN might come after you after some time if you property appreciates and you have to record that in account as paper gain which is taxable profit.
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post Aug 13 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(slickz @ Aug 13 2013, 03:46 AM)

Is it realistic to expect future new launches will give prices within my range?


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unlikely
better buy now or sorry.
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post Aug 13 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Singleon @ Aug 13 2013, 02:52 PM)
Thanks, but just feel sad.
Becoming the debt slave soon....

I hope unlike purchasing Samsung Smartphones...
now buy S4 price as 2.2k..... weeks later S5 announce....terus jatuh 1.0k
pokai lo

Knowing property price also got up and down.
If price goes down...also about 20-40k....
Just lying to myself la...to convince me smile.gif
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dont worry, 2nd hand car and electronics gadget price drop a lot, but property no.
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post Aug 13 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(slickz @ Aug 13 2013, 06:52 PM)
I've asked in the previous pages but have yet to get an answer...

1. Is it realistic to expect new launches for non Pr1ma terrace/linked houses to be in the price range of 500-600k anymore?
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depends on location
if u are talking about ulu area, maybe.
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post Aug 14 2013, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Aug 14 2013, 12:41 PM)
...he does not need to die die must "win" a debate.
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post Aug 15 2013, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Aug 15 2013, 06:00 PM)
Selling price not dropping..... But rental rate do drop already.......  cry.gif  cry.gif
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no laa. i dont intend to drop the rental. but i dont want to increase also. for now.
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post Aug 16 2013, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Aug 16 2013, 08:55 AM)
You're right!!!  rclxms.gif  For a newbie you're even more observant than some who have recently purchased... maybe this site can give more clarity on how monthly installment payments are utilised towards setting off the principal balance.

http://mortgage-x.com/calculators/amortization.htm

You will notice, by entering dummy data in to the calculator that after making 5 years of installments payments which is equivalent to 34%+ of the total loan value, you will still owe the bank 95% of the total original loan value ... (for a 30 year loan) ... This is a very basic mistake that most property buyers tend to overlook and it only hits them in the face when they dive into the details... I'm sure with this you can see what kind of price increment in terms of % you need to sell you property off after 5 years to make some profit... Now you have to ask yourself, at currently property price levels do you think that property prices will increase by more than that break-even percentage?  biggrin.gif

Now there is a way to make the above situation more advantageous to yourself... however I'll leave that to the property taikos here to add on...

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hi rooney sorry i no good in financial calculation,
if the interest rate is 4.2%, how many percentage of principal have been settled, which means how many percentage of loan amount settled? assuming i pay installment monthly and never pay extra to offset principal. tenure 35 years.
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post Aug 16 2013, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Aug 16 2013, 09:14 AM)
How may years have you paid installments for?
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lets say i have paid 10 years, so after 10 years, i only have paid the principal by about 12% right? still owe 88% right?
trying to figure it out from the calculator.
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post Aug 16 2013, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Aug 16 2013, 09:22 AM)
A little more... you would have settle around 15-16% of your original loan value after 10 years of installment payments on a 35 year loan... the point to bear in mind is after 10 years of installment payments you would have already paid out more than 50% of the original loan value... I guess this is the price of leverage.

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post Aug 21 2013, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Aug 21 2013, 08:29 AM)
Wow so perasan u can finish me. Hey it wasnt me who said that, it was other people. Jangan la perasan. I just say other DDDs are ur big suppprters. I mean u quote the agent saying somebody was in a bank working as a cleaner...

See he can do it, others cant. This is not my first time in forums leee, i am just an agent...or a banker...or a cleaner.
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hello friend, check back that post carefully, in the post he did not mean you are the cleaner. you are too sensitive.
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post Aug 22 2013, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Aug 22 2013, 08:24 AM)
our developer could be gone..... some are not competitive enough

the chinese developer are coming.  they can built condo siap half the cost and within 6 months. sweat.gif

forgot to mention............public holiday 2x, got epf, medical, socso and company trip yearly.  tongue.gif
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tikaram boss, may i ask what business are you in?
i see got oil and gas and F&B loaded taiko here in this tread, i wonder what other business can be so successful.

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