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mIssfROGY
post Jul 29 2013, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(all blacks @ Jul 28 2013, 03:14 PM)
I like ur take on the matter... But wat I am more worried about is "Wat happen in 2008"... All this while I am attached to big MNC's, wic r making hell a lot of money, but back in 2008 everyone was having the same thought as you increase salary that we should be expecting as the years gone by but ended up, 2008 no bonus and no increment  unsure.gif .. then the worse was in 2009, salary cut, and many job was slashed especially those earning close to 5 figures doh.gif ... Many of them had to find job with low salary which basically means they went backwards n lost all the increments wic they worked their ass off for, couple of years worth of increment  cry.gif ... n things continued up to 2011.. Only 2012 we got back the increments but again nt great and 2013 is a gud year.. The lesson here, dun take everything for granted n assume things gone be fine..

Most of us when we take loans, we assume everything gone be fine n work as usual so we tend to over leverage and when things go the other way round, we might end up at the wrong end... I am nt married so im nt sure on the wifey thing but most of my friends, their spouse own separate property... so it really depends on the situation I guess...
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i feel that too tho not me but my co also kena....people were either slashed off or slashed pay, no bonus or increment.
Back in 1998...my mom told me ppl who are in the higher earning bracket were the 1st to go....they can hire 2-3 fellas with 1 fella's pay. So yeah.....be happy with your increment now...until they cant take it anymore and there u go, out the door.
That message was always clear in my mind, altho never happen to me before, doesnt mean it wont but i am still lowly paid LOL! so maybe later only my turn la.

This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Jul 29 2013, 06:44 PM
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post Jul 29 2013, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Jul 29 2013, 01:09 PM)
Anybody heard this? Diesel is missing all over Malaysia.
And what type of gasoline do the machinery that works on property? Diesel right?

This is a precursor to increase in diesel price ladies and gentlman.... and I guess property will go down???? I mean I want to hear from people who say that property is going to go down camp. Is it possible for property going down?

IMO this is infaltion at its best. Property is going up because of cost push inflation AND combine with demand pull inflation, be realistic.

Chicken goes up, fish goes up, vegetables go up, sugar go up and only property goes down?

Hmmh another point talking about economy, during the 2008 crisis in the US, interest rates went down to almost 0%. But some of us here are arguing that property price will go down because we cant service the loan due to increase interest rates, therefore more default.Learn from US, Japan etc..but really? Let say the economy is really in a bad shape in Malaysia, are we going to increase intrest rates? But then US didn't do that.

My take is always, Malaysia is different from the rest of the world. But the negative thinking people will say...just wait, Malaysia will crash soon. Dont buy anyhthing yet, learn from US, detroit, japan..bla..bla..bla. Well, they can keep on waiting.
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but if u only have so much money left, will u buy house or buy food to survive?

in the US interest rates almost 0%...but ppl are losing jobs on a daily basis in 2008 and cant service loan, so props of coz go down lo.
U think in Msia if interest rates down to 0% and ppl are losing jobs but props still can sell at 1000sf?? yeah...rich ppl still can buy this no doubt smile.gif
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post Jul 30 2013, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 29 2013, 06:50 PM)
this has been said umpteen times, but seems nobody cares.

and the rebuttal is always - msia is special, msia is diff, more rich people than poor. many a lot richer than u think, like or imagine (but debt keeps going up like mad, why?). even hawkers and teachers earn 10k pm. banks and  oil&gas 30k pm. plus those in sg, shanghai, london, billions in bank accounts ready to buy.

so, how can anyone not have moolah to buy anything? u must be lazy or and negative.

feel like giving up? tongue.gif
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LOL ya i can see that...
my colls were just talking about...if we dont buy now we will never be able to buy....
then i said, yes but must buy within budget, dun buy something u cant afford...
but they looked at me like "wer got houses within budget these days...its normal to pay 700K for a house in semenyih. Want to get cheap house...still got in ipoh. old rundown Bungalow only few mil++"
I was like blink.gif blink.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jul 30 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Jul 29 2013, 06:54 PM)
Then we hav 1998 for us as a benchmark. KLCI went down to just 200++ only but did we hear any property firesales? They were people who lost property due to bankruptcy of course but not because interetst rate increase or interets rate went down.

This is to the fact like iceman said, we hav a different economic theory cant compare wit US. If ever interest rate went close to 0% here, i believe property investor would rejoice. And we still hav huge KWSP to bailout anybody, as what we went through 1998. There will never be the lehman brothers incident here.
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oh i tot danaharta came to save the day back in 1998?
I tot there were few lehman brothers incidents back in 1998? They had to merge the banks .....i assumes it same as lehman brothers on a smaller scale.....haha
KWSP....seriously? really.....hopefully then..
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post Jul 30 2013, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Nomos @ Jul 30 2013, 11:57 AM)
What i can say is the malaysian media was very masterful in spinning issues back in 1997/98 smile.gif
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what was the real deal back then?
Too young to know whats going on...just know few of my skoolfrens have to stop skool overnite coz parents went bankrupt....so sad.
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post Jul 30 2013, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Jul 30 2013, 12:53 PM)
Yeah. I am talking epf can still be used, gov can just say..yeah we will use epf to nationalize banks and all income from the bank after that will be rakyats income. Same as what happened in US. EPF fund is huge. Cyprus slash deposits in banks to save their country. And we hav EPF.

US admitted that they made a mistake by not bailing out lehman. Watched "too big to fail" movie.
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if epf comes n save the day and lets say sailang all $$$ in there...who going save us when we retire (or the current ones that are going to retire)? cry.gif
Btw i tot epf $$ cannot simply use geh?
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post Jul 30 2013, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Nomos @ Jul 30 2013, 12:42 PM)
It was a coming of age time for me as well but i do know there was more panic than what was alluded to in the press. One large firm (which i joined some years later) had to change major business strategies almost overnight to survive, rolling heads along the way. Yeah i did have friends whose parents called back from uni because business wasnt good anymore. The govt kept blaming the west for our self-induced problems and a large number of people bought that idea.
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Thankie for the info! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(pobox @ Jul 31 2013, 11:11 AM)
Means the gomen is taking steps to prevent the "crash". No more worry about "crash", right?
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i like the way you think laugh.gif
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post Aug 6 2013, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 6 2013, 12:30 PM)
Construction and oil/gas. So much work till dono wat to say.

In the meantime, our best shopping malls are packed with people and people are makaning out. Imagine that day, all the resto in a popular mall was fully booked. Nia mah...
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Let me guess...issit coz its puasa month? Fully booked for them to buka puasa?
That day i went to this Absolute Thai in Gardens MV at 630...NOBODY! but fully booked sign is outside...
feeling disatisfied....i ask la issit really fully book? They told me yes......i was like....wat? 1 more hour to buka puasa woh......nobody at all also @@
wahh this restaurant really dunno to do business doh.gif

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