I wonder which server you guys are gonna pick..

Reply if you were planning to wait for the end result(I think I will end this when OBT starts) before you make any decisions.

I just met some very good player around Gilgamesh and is torn between Masamune or Gilgamesh.....

Going US. Haven't research much about most populated NA server but I hear Behemoth/Gilgamesh.

you're moving to US?

I met one too in Masamune.. now considering the two (Tonberry and Masamune)..

is their server down already? i got a message "Unable to complete version check" at launcher. yesterday it was working fine lol

I dont think so.. Mine is still working fine.. It was supposed to server down at 5pm today..

mine suddenly unable to complete version check, dont even know y hahaha

alot more tonberries than i expected.. those who're gonna play in tonberry let me know so we can coordinate with each other

masamune and tonberry, how different is the ping?

I don't think there will be a lot of difference as both is in JP..

i will going to tonberriest, lets wait for OB

Haha.. Ok.. I will wait for the end result before making any move for which server am I joining.. I like a lively FC..

i will play masamune

I don't know yet. need to keep thinking

me n my friends will start in tonberry..if u like to mix up with us feel free to join https://www.facebook.com/groups/619228868102120/ p/s : most of us are malays...i think merging with u guys will be a good idea

Just an info for new players.
Masamune - old server which means you can see lvl50s once the game is in obt, they are the legacy players from FF XIV 1.0 . Economy is there.
Legacy players will include their shards, some items, Gil ( less 1 zero) from 1.0 , eg. I have 100k from 1.0 and I will get 10k in ARR. And also their levels.

Tonberry- New server , everyone and everything starts from 0. New economy.

If you are in old server of coz you can get benefits from legacy players . I think they will give u a big help.

If you're in new server, well, for me it's more challenging to race to the top.

It's all base on what you want.
And don't flame me if I'm wrong , it's just my opinion

Yes, pls dont fight ya..

both have benefit.

In legacy, and if you join a decent FC, will have tremendous help. Establish market where newbie can join and obtain items faster. Since Market will have enough supplies.

In new server, well everyone is helping each other but is more of a race then, because you will see hard core players rushing to top. Markets are new so you wont be able to see many stuff and those stuff will be super expensive etc because the stock are minimum, but demand are high

where's the like function?
LOL!

But then in relation to help shojikun, i would believe it is not a compelling point
Duty finder is sufficient for instances requiring a party... others will be solo instances...

In relation to items... just farm dungeons for lowbie gears

Both legacy and new servers have their strengths...
Just go where your friends will be and believe you will experience the most out of it

You don't need to follow the crowd.

That's my point

This post has been edited by kira-kun: Jul 16 2013, 02:33 PM

well aside from dungeon items, i mean like you can buy potions in cheap or other items or maybe materia...

true to that XD

I will join Tonberry server ^^ 100% all fresh start and new players.
Easy to find pt, leveling and adventure together, this gonna be fun !!!

The other thing I am afraid for the OBT is that there might be not enough mobs for those new servers

Lol

Lol

LOL!

haha, how many mob u want to kill @@" 100 ?

Hmm oh wow.. why are we seperating so much =.="

which server has the less pings?

JP server.

Masamune & Tonberry are JP servers.

Masamune is well establish server.

Tonberry is for fresh start.

This post has been edited by shojikun: Jul 17 2013, 07:31 AM

what do u mean by well established server? I thought everyone starts at the same time? at launch right?

i'm new to FF franchise, so I should start at Tonberry? Is that what you mean? confused a bit lol

Read 1st page , we gave out some info you needed there

1st post..

oh well that was helpful

Final Fantasy XIV was release on September 2010, but the game was purely unfinish and was hit with bad review, so Square Enix replace the Director & Producer with Naoki Yoshida or YoshiP. He update the game and tell us that the game will be rebuild from ground up. Then November 2012 version 1.0 shut down with epic End of Era Trailer and they begun the next game Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn.

Also during the 1.0 era, we old users are still there playing we were given free to play for a whole year, before they start charging us around January 2012. So all our hardwork that time will be brought over to ARR. Thus you see Legacy servers as well.

I'm pretty sure sooner or later, world transfer will allow legacy players to move to new server or the opposite.
It's just for now, they wanted the new server to be untouch and new players to have a new experience and not interfere by legacy players.

Old server aka legacy server issue.

It's bound to happen in legacy server, those with a max level would run around aoeing some low level mob to accomplish their quest or farm mats. Or it'll take a hit or 2 to fully wipe out low lv mob.

Legacy players who now had max their combat jobs will concentrate on farming mats to skills up their tradecraft.*For those who had always combat first without skilling their craft*

Those who have max their craft and combat job will be controlling the market. They could farm mats as easily as they want. They no longer need to skills up on their craft anymore. They'll probably run around digging for mats and then put it up for sale. Since there's new players flocking in, they could fetch a hefty price sum for those heavy sorted mats needed for skilling up crafts.

RMT rodents will continue to exist with their past account and manipulate the economy.

New server issue.

Players will all be skilling up from ground level. Whatever you try to farm or level upon on the field is bound to be shared by various players.

Mats wont be freely available for the moment if you are a heavy craftsman. The price will be expensive.

Though new server, players who have been playing since 1.0 will join the server. Their character wouldn't be able to do so. But they already know the direction and where to start. It's just a matter of time, They have whatever they want in a short time frame.

RMT will join this new server as new player. Players could spot them easily by their weird action,gibberish name and gibberish engrish.
Yes, they'll be moving in large scales across various places.

Dude , I said 1st page not 1st post.

My 2 cts when choosing a server:

Legacy Pros:
1.0 Character data (if applicable)
Established economy
Mixed level of characters, population distribution
Large amounts of dedicated players

Legacy Cons:
Possibility of monopoly for economy
Feeling of being behind
If you want to roll Arcanist, there will be a LOT more who already have every other class capped rolling it as well

New Pros:
Everyone is on the same playing field
New community full of old and new players
Chance to get ahead in crafting and make lots-o-gil.

New Cons:
Possibility of mass exodus 2-4 months in as people get bored (not as likely in legacy servers since they have had populations since 1.0)
Everyone will be choked up in the same few zones for awhile
No economy
No high level crafters that can fill the market

Thats why me & my friends opt for legacy server

I got a friend I met during the CBT who,had max everything of her character in 1.0 including crafting and class.. Literally everything in her character is lvl50 (obviously except,the new class).. I think she might be able to,help craft some stuff for free.. (hopefully haha..)

This post has been edited by eugenelimys: Jul 17 2013, 12:21 PM

i am still waiting for the end result of this poll as i dint vote any server yet. amount of players in one of those server will certain help in making decision

sadly this poll cannot retract vote...

Leveling have been made super easy to progress that you wont be felt left out so much.

Pros of Legacy Server (Where you will see people who have already made progression much up to even max level)
- Economy which are much stable, as there will be more supplies than demands
- All of 1.0 Players gils are denoted by 1 zero. (Eg. my gils in 1.0 server is 1million, in ARR is 100k gil now).
- Knowledgeable Veterans who actually are more friendlier than other MMOs community you've met on other MMOs.
- Not every Legacy/1.0 Players are level 50. Many are still leveling.
- Have veterans to help newbies. Unless jerks
- Will mostly be the loyal fans of the games. Even if the game doesn't garner enough people on new server, legacy servers community will stay strong because of Loyalist.

Cons of Legacy Server
- Markets are very competitive.
- Most supply will be in Higher Tier, Lowbies will probably have small problems.
- For the hardcores would or might not be able to attend the 1st in Servers.
- Legacy Players (not all 1.0 players are Legacy) got nifty forever discount.
- Goobbue Mount

Pros of New World Server
- All players starting in same field
- Able to get First in server achievement (but of course if you're hardcore enough).
- Most are on the same level of knowledge. They might be some from 1.0 who are restarting a new.
- Market is zero

Cons of New World Server
- Market are still competitive but at a lower rate than Legacy Server.
- Demand is too high, supply is low.
- Might be more slow than Legacy Server since everyone are still leveling up.
- If the hype of the game doesn't meet expectation, the server you on may dwindle slowly.

is it possible of making a poll that can retract votes? If can, maybe I will try creating,another poll..

Not on this version of IPB

This sucks

I'm new, too. So I'm probably gonna start with Tonberry.
Though it was quiet silent during the CBT. The only several conversations I saw were Japanese. So it was quiet lonely. LOL

But we can create one character (for minimal subs) on each server right?

New doesn't mean can't start in Masamune~

Hehe. I'm just afraid that there won't be as many peers/people on low level PVE areas. Like back on GW2. Also (probably) less low level equips on the market. That, and the price hike from legacy players.

Will Crystalier FC be on Masamune?

Yes.. we'll be in Masamune~ thou i should say that it will have new players anyway influx of them in Legacy servers.

Prices hike wont be from legacy players, too much competetiion will result in prices DOWN thou that the only thing why people WANT to roll on new server.. is to grab the market and set expensively because demand is low.

Also most newbie crafters will be the one who will supply low level stuffs~ (ur looking at me as lowbie crafter)

This post has been edited by shojikun: Jul 18 2013, 06:04 AM

Yay!

Then I will probably be one of your loyal customers. LOL
Thanks for the enlightment, Shoji! Will give Masamune a try during OBT

Then we can go and craft together

Im also a low level crafter

Free equips for low levels in Masamune? :3

depends,

if dungeon item tradable , I can give to FC for free as long as its below lvl45-50.

But I don't think it's tradable right ?
I mean, like my cavalry set , those type of armor can't be traded . Not so sure bout others though .

Thats why I said if.


Edited: Yeah my mistake, I already check the item database... even the pink gear is untradable.

This post has been edited by EmperorJoseon: Jul 18 2013, 12:20 PM

I will always pass dungeon item if below level 45-50

sweet~ let's us craft together!

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe.. *grins*

ir2shah saw u in our FC website, welcome!

Thank you shojikun. I will join FC in Masamune.

This post has been edited by ir2shah: Jul 18 2013, 06:05 PM

I hope that most Tonberry voters will end up joining Masamune instead..

if most player is from legacy in masamune, our lowbie items selling chance will be lower ??

Lol.. A sudden hike in Tonberry

but not all who vote here is gonna buy and play this game, i believed there are some who
vote just for fun XD

well most crafters are low levels anyway, even me... :| but i dont really intend to sells stuff, if i do sell is more for the FC treasurey to buy our house.. ><

wow you mean you earn your Gil's not from crafting but from quest reward, drops, items drop selling ?

Is it okay to add a friend into the FC? She practically max out everything in 1.0
Do you want to look at her profile? I'll post it here if you want

ofcourse is OK! more merrier, sign up at http://crystalierxiv.net

Nice, I'll ask couple of my LS mates that didnt migrate to join also when OBT start.

http://www.ffxivpro.com/player/Aegis/Kairi-Sgheart

Her profile
She is in Aegis in 1.0 but changing to Masamune soon... I met her in Tonberry.. (I don't know her real person but she told me she is a Singaporean)

OH Kairi, i know her i thought she doing her own FC mecury?

Its nice to see people doing a poll deciding which server to play on ,
but also annoying to see some ppl deliberately trying to pull people in their own server almost in every thread I came across .

Whats the deal ? Just play on the server you enjoy .

I personally am playing on the US shore and don't believe 100 ms make such a big deal . If we are only allowed to play MMORPG under 100 ms , then there wouldn't be any MMO players in Malaysia at the first place.

We grew up playing EQ and U.O at the typical US ping , we didn't have any problem until we had some of the most populars raiders on WOW servers ( english ver of WOW did not have any asian server either ) .

Not sure whether is she creating her own FC.. If she didn't, I try to call her to join us..
She told me she will be transferring to Masamune and with the same ign. that's how I find her profile..

Because some members wanna join the server with the most people they know (in LYN).. This poll was to help them make up their choice not to pull people into their server..

Uhmm well i dont think i can clear with 300ms++ in a US ping for PvE, not to mention PvP. I agree that is their right to choose which server they want to go to. No harm really.

I've tried even in Instance in Ifrit lvl 20 easy mode, i always get hit by the Eruption skills. Imagine that on Hard mode or Extreme mode Ifrit, where it will just one shot you.

This post has been edited by shojikun: Jul 19 2013, 12:05 AM

No I wasn't talking about you , you have more than helpful to most ppl around here
Its a good thing if the gamers on lowyat stick together and have a nice and warm home on the server and you made that happen , no small deal .

I would have join the majority but I had quite a few friends which I been gaming with for a long time on the US side , else I would have joined too.



I was talking about how some guy said he was playing on the US shore and was immediately met with criticism .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 19 2013, 12:06 AM

OOOOOOOOOOhhhhh

Watch her video... >.<

Superb !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQKQSqVuWxE

For those going to Tonberry, I would highly suggest for someone who can at least setup a webpage or at least a FB group to start one soon as phase 4 is only around the corner. At least that way it will make coordination and recruitment easier.

oh mai...this make my decision abit hard if i am waiting for the poll result...since tonberry is just behind masumune by 1 player in the result

Yea.. but it may be false cuz not all are gonna play.. :\

We'll have to see when P4 starts. Generally the poll should be quite accurate since players who made the attempt to get to this post and took the initiative to vote will either have shown interest or who has already bought. I doubt anyone will just vote for "fun" if they can find themselves all the way to this forum post.

This post has been edited by Alastorm: Jul 23 2013, 04:56 PM

Is more like we have to see when after 1 month of official release

I vote for fun (by clicking null)

I accidently click null

Wow.. I'm surprised.. We have the same amount of votes for Tonberry and Masamune.

Looks like tonberry got more votes

its up to you guys where to vote lol .

i definitely going masamune

I'll go with tonberry hehe ...

sama la kita

I confirm going to Masamune already..

I actually want to join Masamune too but one of my friends don't want to play on legacy server

Anyway we all might join up in the future who knows~ also dunno who will keep on playing later.
Hopefully there will be another server transfer event in the far future for just incase

Masamune will still stay in the end because of loyal players. Tonberry depends on how the game develop if they manage to retain the user base, then Tonberry is safe. If not for sure you will see Tonberry become ghost town

I have to disagree on that point. If the game does not live up to the hype what makes you think legacy players won't leave? In the end of the day, if the players loses interest in the game they will still leave whether they are new or old legacy players. Just because the player has a previous higher level legacy character doesn't guarantee that they will definitely stay loyal if they find the game becomes too bored for them or a better mmo comes up later on.

In the end of the day, everyone is paying a monthly fee to have fun with the game and they can terminate the payment if they don't like the game anymore be it a new or a legacy player.

True.. but is mostly we legacy who stick to it while others didn't during 1.0 bad era...

hi,new player here voted to go masamune as well

But that is 1.0 era......ARR is like a totally new game so the trend in 1.0 may not be the same and furthermore we're talking about taking out money on a monthly basis, so the chances of a player who no longer likes the game will quit much faster than a f2p game.

When money comes into play any players doesn't matter legacy or not they will definitely quit if they want to jump to another mmo. Not everyone is super rich lol =p

This post has been edited by Alastorm: Jul 27 2013, 05:09 PM

1.0 era also we paid btw... ~___~ so technically not many different and is mostly the hard fans that will stay.. which is why i say Masamune will be. Even how bad was 1.0 there people playing and still many does. This is what i meant really compare to other servers.

1.0 is already distinction of that loyal fans and most legacy server will stay high population due to this.


Also Legacy status get 9.99/month compare to others ~_~

This post has been edited by shojikun: Jul 27 2013, 05:10 PM

I would still say the viewpoint is quite subjective and one sided because there no hard facts or data which proves that legacy servers will definitely stay high population in years to come. With all the new mmo's coming out or is already out, what guarantee is there that the old legacy players will be coming back and not committed to a diff mmo already?

Furthermore, who can say that all the legacy players will definitely like ARR? Some might not and decide to go to another game. In the end there is a lot of factors we cannot see, so until the time has passed, no one can really give a definite answer that this or that will certainly happen unless you are saying you have a time machine that can see into the future.

I never say All, i say most. Although in the end is going to be just that Legacy servers be more populated then new servers, but nevertheless i forgot one more fact that is a JP servers so can say that It'll never drop in populations maybe minor but will still have most population than compare to a NA/EU servers.

This post has been edited by shojikun: Jul 27 2013, 05:23 PM