Why is a Civic better value then a Focus, quite possibly the best speced car you can get for less than 180k or so? In comparison the Civic looks like an empty box.

I have owned neither (only drove an older Focus, which was pretty nice), so I can't comment on that. I do prefer the Focus.

After trying them, which one do you prefer?

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jul 14 2013, 11:50 PM

I'm amused how people here have a crystal ball. Dealer won't take a Focus?

http://www.mudah.my/Ford+Focus+2+0+RS+Auto...06-21614361.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Ford+Focus+GHIA+2+0+AUTO+09-20743193.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Ford+Focus+2+0+B+Turbo...ge-22248439.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Ford+Focus+A+-22376669.htm

All from dealers.

And Ford is getting more and more popular.

Yeah, I also don't understand it. He clearly states RV is not an issue.

And even if it were, it's a 10-20k price difference for a same year car. The older it gets the smaller the difference will be, and as time passes by RV will improve anyway. The Forte has a decent RV these days.

Anyway, Mamapapamsia insisted that even if the RV doesn't matter dealers won't take the Ford (well, even if so... put up an ad on Mudah and sell directly, can earn more because there's no dealer sitting in between). Then when I posted dealers who clearly did, he starts about RV again. Funny.

There was a forumer recently who desperately searched for a Focus. No demand? Yeah right.

@nagflar: Oh. I want that steering wheel. Leather... mhhh. But 5 seater only... otherwise good price. Aren't you looking to buy one?

Enough cash to not care about poor resale value, not enough cash to spend 150k more.

Oh. Did you sabotage them?

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

What? He may have enough cash that the 20k difference in RV that may occur many years in future doesn't matter to him. He may not have enough to spend 150k more upfront. There is no contradiction. I don't feel any pain when going to a nice restaurant once in a while. I couldn't/wouldn't want to afford paying a few thousand on a bottle of wine though.

There is a difference between a Volvo and a Ford, yes, but it is not so big. There is a big difference between a Ford and an ASEAN Honda. Again, we are not living in a binary world.

Contis, new Koreans and EU spec Japanese cars are on a similar level safety wise. Some are better than others, but you can't really go wrong with any of them. Assistance systems are what differentiates them, like lane assist, auto braking etc. (I believe the first car I've ever seen to have this stuff was a JDM Honda that was imported to Europe by a professor at my university).

ASEAN Japanese cars are on a different level... and at that level they can't really be recommended.

You don't have to spend 250k on a safe car, 75-80k is enough.

The XV has no boot, and since it is raised it probably won't be cornering well either (unless they made the suspension brutal). I'd rather get an Impreza.

The Volvo is great, but much more expensive.

Nah. A diesel will give you 1000-1200 km on a 50l tank, depending on driving style. I got 700 while driving a big MPV filled with people and luggage at 160-180.

That's never an issue. Drive around a short while and they stop complaining. It worked with the Kangoo. It should work with the Focus too.

Haha, not really. It just shuts them up (though I've then heard inquiries that sounded like they want to buy one too...). People can be quite annoying when they tell you why haven't you bought a Toyota or Honda, etc. A quick test drive works wonders, and it doesn't mean you want to sell them your car.

The Civic is a Golf/Focus competitor.


This one.

It is not so successful, but it can compete (though not as good). The problem is the one we're getting in Malaysia is not as good as the one they are getting in Europe (and nowhere near as attractive), while the Focus and Golf we are getting in Malaysia is every bit as good as the one they are getting.

DSG is AFAIK not a fan of traffic jams, you may better want to check about that. Though typically the clutch gets disengaged when standing and braking... so, yeah, just try to get more info about that. If DSG problems are very common under such conditions you may want to look at the Cerato or Civic instead...

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jul 16 2013, 12:22 PM

Haha, well, my Suprima = diapers got picked up on the internet

I wonder why another troll here who is way worse than jayraptor isn't bashed nearly as much.