Below Is the List for Countering Hero Ulti or Skill


As far as i know now is :

Rikimaru : Spiritbreaker
Luna : Naix
Kunkka : Bane
Centaur : Jakiro Or Naix
Lanaya : Gyrocopter & Sladar
Huskar : Lanaya + Ursa
Abaddon : Sniper + Lina + Necrolyte
Sven : Drow + Medusa
Bristleback : Lion + Bane + Razor
Ursa : Lone Druid
Puck : Silencer + Doom
Nyx : Rikimaru + Spectre + Sladar
Pudge : Ursa + Huskar + Qop + Naix
Bounty Hunter : Sladar
Juggernaut :Doom + Drow + Riki
Phantom Lancer : Bounty Hunter + Kunkka + Zeus
Gyrocopter : Naix
Slark : Sladar + Bloodseeker

As for the other still learning how to counter back.

This post has been edited by Xcvzk: Jul 25 2013, 10:48 AM

can do counter either by item or by hero. simply abuse the hero weakness.

If bara i still dont know how to counter that hero. Since the hero was earlier ganker.

early game just play tower / ward. safe enough. for a str hero, I think bara is very soft.

But if bara combo with a good hero such as Timber or any hero he will become a good killer. Someone take the tower damage and bara doing the killing. Eventhough i play safe at tower they still chase.

aa, that's if got good teammate.


btw, dotabuff statistic can be quite usefull. see hero best against and worse against stats.

Just use http://www.dotaedge.com/

But there are some hero there is still cannot do counter. Haha.

Not all heroes have hard counter, as in another hero to counter them. But all heroes can be countered by the right combo/play style and items.

Mostly you have to play a lot, watch a lot of pro games and then eventually you'll know yourself.

I learn a lot if you want to choose riki. wait until the enemy pick other hero than Barathum, Sladar And Bounty Hunter. If these 3 hero is picked we should think back if want to choose riki. haha.

riki < bristleback

If bristleback is being smoke by riki. He can still use the spike or what? Since never use this bristleback.

the passive one will come out

the passive ability is still there

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Silence



then bristleback got damage reduction from behind

normally if got riki, i counter with bh/sladar

Ic ic. so its the passive. Since this bristleback so damn tanker. hard to kill in earlier game. Hahah.


Yeah thats rite. But when Bara in game we need to carefull of its charge with dust. Damn.

there are many ways to interpret hero counter. i would prefer a whole team counter if possible. this is good when approaching mid game, where lots of team fight starts

most of the time, dark seer would be the best hero to counter team fight. so must always have it in our team, or ban it from the game

LOL. I hate Dark Seer when he got the Scepter. His ulti become more long and the illusion become a bit more hard. DANG..

f*** hero countering

LOL.

Really hate sladar or BH when using RIKI. But to counter earlier BH. Just buy gem and go find the Bh. Then Gem put back in base. So they dont aim u earlier. hahah.

It's a team game of skills, you might counter pick one or two heroes but they might be really bad players anyway which doesn't need you to even counter pick.

Also if your hero picks don't allow you to counter the enemy, items will.

We dont just pick certain hero to direct-counter-that-hero-in-the-face. Sometimes we pick heroes that can fit in your draft ( 5 man team ) and combo well so you can gain benefit in both aspect.

For example, how often you put huskar in your draft just to counter templar assassin ? That would make ur draft abit weird because huskar is not well-suited in competitive lineup.
We might as well pick venomancer which can act as support as well as the ideal counter for templar assassin.

Just a small example, its too vast. With you picking counter heroes, that doesnt mean your enemy wont counter your counter. So, keep calm and play more dota ! xD

yesterday play. Sladar so GG when i am using riki. I keep aiming him. Hahaha.

+1 for this...
the important thing is can click with ur team heroes...
for an instance,ppl 5 pusher hero with summons and stuff,u pick 5 that can easily kill them but all single target kill...u might get kills,but ull lose the game cos of the push :/

that if our team got a good support and ganker. But if got team that mind his own business. We so GG. haha.

how also need see teammate :/ teamplay is what i think most important in d2

Yeahhhh. Like yesterday when i am playing choosing alchemist. Then pa want blame me the whole game. I told him to farm since PA useless without his item. Then he keep roaming dont want stick. He make us lose the game. Damn....

Some hero indeed is super counter for certain hero . Example like bloodseeker is super counter to anti mage during early and mid game . Imagine the rupture make anti mage cant blink and when anti try to farm he keep on hunt him . Dang he be super skinny

Bloodseeker is not that much of a hardcounter to AM all they need to do is TP away, you can never solo kill the AM unless he is a very poor player...

The best way to hero counter is pick a team with good synergy, and evaluate in which part of the game you will have an advantage, if you are required to finish fast of face the wrath of a farmed PL you need to establish that earlier and picked up necessary items to enable a sustained push. If your team lacks pushing power then you will need to gank effectively early to shut down certain heros farming capabilities or you will inevitably lose if they have a harder carry.

yea...but since this thread is about counter,we should just try list down what hero is better against which hero...
lets start with bloodseeker?
lol....

Huskar ? just get Ursa can own already. True story.

Yeah thats true. Lets do some list how to counter hero.

As i know so far how to counter abaddon just using Sniper Or Drow. With both far range can make that abaddon useless since he is initiate type hero. Unless abaddon make some good combo such as Abaddon + Omniknight. GGWP game.

http://www.dotaedge.com/

omniknight...

So Omniknight can counter Bara? NIce then. but how?

Well if Omni is a carry then most likely is simple because Omni third passive aura slow enemy attack speed . With that kind of sticky goo slow bara down and omni carry , I dont see why not . Besides omni got more than 1 spells to protect himself or others .

I still think Slark or Juggernaunt best Spirit Breaker counter . Slark if timing is right , he can break bara mad bash combo with ultimate or first skill . With essence shift , SB will get slow down while slark is getting faster . Juggernaunt if precise timing twist can prevent SB from ulti
and when the creep waves are cleared . Its slice and dice with omnislash to finish the job

Greater Bash is magic damage. Repel = no bonus damage from GB.

Yesterday i play Kunkka but still owning bara. Just using BKB then his ulti useless. Hahaha.

counter huskar with nyx...instant death for him if your timing nice

and how is that?

ya how

the 3rd skill return dmg when he ulti and combo stun mana and ulti as last hit i guess,since huskar has magic resistance but na ulti consider physical @@"
well thats the scenario i can think of if he said nyx can counter...

But i didnt understand with Instant Death. With huskar High resistant with magic damage. Make him become more powerful 1 on 1 With magical attacker. But Nyx is not magical attacker. He doing Physical attack only. LOL.

with meepo better.

Meepo ok good counter with huskar. But need really fast hand to control 4 meepo at a time.

ya something like that...erm not instant death but mostly will die within 2 seconds.
nyx is nice to counter qop too...need the spike with good timing when qop 3rd skill.

mid or late game then different story already.

OIC then. Will try later that hero. But sometime nyx is annoying hero also. early game need to buy alot of sentry. Last time i play. i play huskar, level 6 straight GEM. Nyx become useless after that. hahaha.

all need see timing nia..the spike very gay

Hahaha. Not very gay. Super gay. Niama Nyx. eventhough he got 1 hp left. He use his spike, All damage return back. Dang.

try to play psychology game with him...some skills you can fake cast, i not sure about huskar ulti, you try ulti+stop see if huskar
can fake ulti.
when you fake a skill, probably can make him trigger spike, just like sometimes u use it to make puck to trigger phase shift.
i play so much nyx, and now i keep thinking how to counter myself back lol.
can fark up a nyx by sentries, win his lane, delay his 6 and....lol whole team outplay the other team. (you dont say.jpg haha)

... my es eat my own ulti when i blink in team fight and the nyx just spike like he doesnt care
but then the mana burn nerf slightly make him not as powerful as last time d.


oblivion counter skywrath mage in teamfight, drop ward then he dead LOL, unless he blade mail next level kamikaze counter you back.
but the ward will still be there in teamfight.
so...still ob win

This post has been edited by yewMP5: Jul 23 2013, 12:28 PM

yeah that they way to kill him. Only bkb can counter his spike. But Naix rage also can counter nyx. Right?

Now this is funnyy. haha. i laugh by myself here. hahaha. This Nyx we cannot 1 on 1 with him unless got BKB or repel type skill. Haha.

ya....
just silence the nyx and he dead lol.
I hate DeathProphet, "ok-farmed" Drow, skywrath mage (if he outplay me, i not pro though), storm spirit.

skywrath, oblivion and nyx, i play these heroes frequently (i cant carry for shiat, slow farmer.)
i play them so much i just keep think how to counter myself back and then just try to avoid from them lol

This post has been edited by yewMP5: Jul 23 2013, 12:34 PM

If got these 3 hero. That nyx hero is GG. since the triplet is silence b****. haha.

or just get someone to tank the spike using low dmg spell...lol..
after that he is just a food xD
altho got stun and invi

LOL just use riki. Bring gem and find nyx around the map. Hahah.

lol got see this before? kinda funny

how come nyx no eat damage ?

that is how spike works, you go read the description of the skill then you will know.

Now this is one funny *******. hahahahaha. 1 hit critical backfire.haha

got idea on facing well played void ?

1 Word agains void. Make sure got disruptor inside game. And stay back from ur partner. Force staff in then use ulti. GGWP.

U mean Glimpse void when his ulti ? When he ulti force staff in be his food ?
What if void bkb+ulti ? Only can count on teamate d i think.

hahaha.as far as i play. Void will not be wasting to do earlier BKB just to counter Magic damage. He need need item damage the most and fast attack speed. hehe

just get force staff or what push teammate out or get od close or sd close lol

thats y need count on teammates lo

if void smart enuf to ulti on disabler/ late game bkb. ggwp.

yea need see teammate,but doubt void can farm happily - -" void is consider quite soft early altho the backtrack very gay

Void is still no1 imba hero for me until now.

In 5v5 game, void covered by lion/es etc, kill hero happily > farm.

Drag till late game is nightmare for u d. Really headache hero than bara

Nahh. For me, i can control void if u got good support also. Not only void can get good support. hahaha.

Hope there is changelog to adjust abit the ulti. Gang fight / war hard lor, supporter kena ulti nothing can do d, then his enigma blackhole > es fisure > tide ulti > anyone who have refresher. GGWP lulz . Sad 5v5 experience. I mean late game lar. Need fast game if got this faceless.

hahaha. Dont drag game if got void ingame. u can drag game but make sure that void farmless. thats all.

always od/ gyro lool

make sure dont be his food instead

mORNINGGG.

just get disables,he can backtrack dmg only right?but not the status.

Yeah. Get disable Void become useless. Hehe.

For void there is a multiple possible way to counter it . Just as long you don't caught inside the chronosphere .

1.) Sniper - Just shoot him with fast from outside the dome , he will be either force to come out to fight you or he will just die getting irritated inside by your headshot . Even you cant kill him , that few second is enough to let your team mate to kill him after his chronosphere finish

2.) Juggernaut - With correct timing and item build , just slash him when he solo from outside the sphere . Normally I suggest you to do it when no creeps is around and after he just use his time leap . Or else your ultimate will be wasted .

pro void will ulti u near border where others cant reach yet ur teammate can hit

Yeah. I think also sniper is the main counter for void so far. As long u didnt show up ur face to void u can run away from his ulti. hahah.

might as well say kotl blind- -"

KOTL earlier push can win game. But drag game sure GG.

Personally, counter heroes are good idea but it is not the entire 100% factor of winning. But I "counter" every heroes myself.

kotl is one of the best support ever :/
can antipush,tele teammate,mana,blind the carries and push them away,mana leak...damn nice

Yeah agree with you on that. This kotl Is a good support. Fully support on mana,ward and any more. With his Chakra can fully support carry with a good skill with unlimited mana. DAMN..

Kotl if good but treant is uncounterable as a support!

yea treant is nice as well.the shield...dang...
with hp regen somemore- -

Treant is the most annoying with his heal tower,people. So many annoying skill. Damnnn.

If he is your teamate, diff story

hehehe. yeah if he your teammate sure can support u.haha.

go counter am, void, gyro, pl in safe lane with windrunner!!

PL counter is sniper. After sniper got his Mjolnir Sure can pawn PL easily.

AM counter is silencer or drow. Thats all so far i know.

if only public mm,medusa can counter pl better XD
1 ulti all image gone

IC iC. So medusa can counter PL? hehe.

fat gyro also can counter pl

any fat hero also can counter pl