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 Which NEXT-Gen Console You Choose?, U love which console?come vote

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post May 15 2006, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(HeavenNirvana @ May 13 2006, 03:31 PM)
Can Xbox360 play HD DVD video? According to the specs it cannot play HD DVD video.

For PS3, the first time they announce the price, ya my thought is like its exspensive. But considering the spec that they got, like able to play Blueray disc, free online, XDR ram, better HD resolution, HDMI OUT, 2.5" hard disk and bluetooth joypad, its quite a good package. Considering an high end gaming pc is about twice the price of PS3 and that pc can't support blue ray.

Well If you look PS3 just as a gaming console then you will think is not worth. But If you look at PS3 as a entertainment console then is quite worth.

I wont get the first version of PS3 because every first batch of any console has some problem. The best is probably the third batch. So I'll only buy it  like 3 years after launch.
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Not PC cant play BlueRay, and yet, dont compare with PC, PC just need to buy a BlueRay Drive to play BlueRay.

As per Fun wise, Nintendo Wii for da Way!!!, its not just sitting and playing???? its come out the game just like exercise.
Maybe in my heart, im still a nintendo fans boy tongue.gif

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post May 15 2006, 11:26 PM

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i voted for nintendo.
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post May 16 2006, 08:19 AM

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had to admit, if let only ONE to choose... i will get the PS3 eventhou i'm own an x360 just for the 2x more power it can give compared to x360.. there will be time when multi platform games on x360 will have lower framerate compared to ps3

anyway, will get them all eventualy
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post May 16 2006, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(eone @ May 15 2006, 07:19 PM)
had to admit, if let only ONE to choose... i will get the PS3 eventhou i'm own an x360 just for the 2x more power it can give compared to x360.. there will be time when multi platform games on x360 will have lower framerate compared to ps3

anyway, will get them all eventualy
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Haha, dream on. The PS3 is about on par with the xb360. In fact, the xb360 is actually a step ahead in the graphics department.

Well i guess it's 2x more powerful if you're willing to believe the people who said that the PS3 would have 2x 1080p display capability. ROFL.
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post May 16 2006, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(ikanayam @ May 16 2006, 10:59 AM)
Haha, dream on. The PS3 is about on par with the xb360. In fact, the xb360 is actually a step ahead in the graphics department.

Well i guess it's 2x more powerful if you're willing to believe the people who said that the PS3 would have 2x 1080p display capability. ROFL.
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Well this is because xbox360 game now is in the second generation already and PS3's game isnt an end product yet. I'm sure the second generation PS3 game will have a much more improve graphics.
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post May 16 2006, 12:50 PM

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well.. i really respect the Cell cpu.. even 200mhz cell on ps2 capable running games that from pc with 2ghz, just imagine, 3.2Ghz + 7 SPEs.... let alone the cell it self is actually a gpu
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QUOTE(HeavenNirvana @ May 15 2006, 11:18 PM)
Well this is because xbox360 game now is in the second generation already and PS3's game isnt an end product yet. I'm sure the second generation PS3 game will have a much more improve graphics.
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Well here's the deal: The ps3 GPU is a G71 (directx9). The Xbox360 GPU is close to what we'll get when directX10 arrives.


QUOTE(eone @ May 15 2006, 11:50 PM)
well.. i really respect the Cell cpu.. even 200mhz cell on ps2 capable running games that from pc with 2ghz, just imagine, 3.2Ghz + 7 SPEs.... let alone the cell it self is actually a gpu
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PS2 does not have a Cell, and Cell is not a GPU.
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QUOTE(HeavenNirvana @ May 16 2006, 12:18 PM)
Well this is because xbox360 game now is in the second generation already and PS3's game isnt an end product yet. I'm sure the second generation PS3 game will have a much more improve graphics.
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Actually xb360 first gen games looks pretty damn good compare to ps3 first gen....i still remember lots of people laughing at it though, saying xbox1.5. Now when the ps3 game ingame were shown...erm.... tongue.gif
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i voted for the wii....
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post May 16 2006, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(ikanayam @ May 16 2006, 01:40 PM)
PS2 does not have a Cell, and Cell is not a GPU.
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eh, i tot emotion is 1st gen cell..

anyway, here's an interesting article (its old btw)
http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/200...0/gpus-vs-cell/

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QUOTE(guardioo @ May 15 2006, 09:29 PM)
Not PC cant play BlueRay, and yet, dont compare with PC, PC just need to buy a BlueRay Drive to play BlueRay.
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until MS finally decide to support blu-ray, there will be no blu ray driver that can communicate with the windows.


QUOTE(eone @ May 16 2006, 03:17 PM)
eh, i tot emotion is 1st gen cell..

anyway, here's an interesting article (its old btw)
http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/200...0/gpus-vs-cell/
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the link is about someone saying he using cell processor with 8 spe, nothing about emotion is 1st gen cell.
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pffft.. sony and its 4D gaming.. another bullcrap marketing..
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QUOTE(eone @ May 16 2006, 02:17 AM)
eh, i tot emotion is 1st gen cell..

anyway, here's an interesting article (its old btw)
http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/200...0/gpus-vs-cell/
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I don't think you even know what the article was discussing now do you?
If that code had any dynamic branching in it, that will explain why it's slower on the Nvidia GPU. Run it on the X1900 or Xenos (xbox360 GPU) and it will fly.

The Cell, while being a good streaming processor, does not have the resources to do texturing and all the other stuff which a GPU can do quickly.

And the emotion engine is not the first generation Cell. The PS3 is using the 1st generation Cell.

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I don't care if it's bloody 2D. If it's fun, I'll play. So far in my mind I'm targeting the 360 for run and gun, bloody explosions, and the Wii for unique gameplay. If and when the PS3 comes down to a reasonable price, maybe I'll get it.

Heck. By that time maybe I can afford a decent LCD screen too.
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ May 16 2006, 03:50 PM)
I don't think you even know what the article was discussing now do you?
If that code had any dynamic branching in it, that will explain why it's slower on the Nvidia GPU. Run it on the X1900 or Xenos (xbox360 GPU) and it will fly.

The Cell, while being a good streaming processor, does not have the resources to do texturing and all the other stuff which a GPU can do quickly.

And the emotion engine is not the first generation Cell. The PS3 is using the 1st generation Cell.
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eh? really? to my understanding is, the code is actually for the GPU, and they tested on the cell alone, simple as that.. and i read somewhere long ago, cell is from emotion ><, the concept is there..

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QUOTE(eone @ May 16 2006, 04:19 PM)
eh? really? to my understanding is, the code is actually for the GPU, and they tested on the cell alone, simple as that.. and i read somewhere long ago, cell is from emotion ><, the concept is there..
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you do seem a tad confused imo. tongue.gif first and foremost, the Cell is not a GPU. that bit is being handled by Nvidia on the PS3...
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ May 16 2006, 02:08 PM)
Actually xb360 first gen games looks pretty damn good compare to ps3 first gen....i still remember lots of people laughing at it though, saying xbox1.5. Now when the ps3 game ingame were shown...erm.... tongue.gif
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Well from what I see, PS3 ingame that were shown is very nice. Heavenly sword's graphics is beautiful and with interactive background, same goes to warhawk. As for xbox360, their doa4 and doax2 graphics is not a huge improvement and their hair animation is really a let down. Doax2 is not much improve from doax. Thats why 360 is still call as 1.5. But Xbox360 best graphics preview game must be gears of wars. Its graphics is on the par with unreal tournament 2007.

The fact is PS2 and PS3 architecture is challenging for game developer because they are harder to create. So developer must take time to find out those goodies in order to create beautiful graphics and gameplay. But since Sony add alot of middleware to PS3, it should help developer to create game easier.

Xbox360 is easier because its architecture is similar to PC.

I'm preety sure that PS3's games graphics will improve over the past few months after its release.
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...have you seen tekken 6 video? (gamespot got) Hair & clothes animation, gfx....erm....you get the drill. Doa 4 tops it anyday....

Anyway Heavenly Sword is awesome indeed...warhawk, no...just not yet.

of course ps3 gfx will improve over time...thing is, there is nothing on their showfloor that justify xb360 as...xbox 1.5 yet, in fact it's quite a let down.
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QUOTE(HeavenNirvana @ May 16 2006, 12:02 PM)
Well from what I see, PS3 ingame that were shown is very nice. Heavenly sword's graphics is beautiful and with interactive background, same goes to warhawk. As for xbox360, their doa4 and doax2 graphics is not a huge improvement and their hair animation is really a let down. Doax2 is not much improve from doax. Thats why 360 is still call as 1.5. But Xbox360 best graphics preview game must be gears of wars. Its graphics is on the par with unreal tournament 2007.

The fact is PS2 and PS3 architecture is challenging for game developer because they are harder to create. So developer must take time to find out those goodies in order to create beautiful graphics and gameplay. But since Sony add alot of middleware to PS3, it should help developer to create game easier.

Xbox360 is easier because its architecture is similar to PC.

I'm preety sure that PS3's games graphics will improve over the past few months after its release.
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Xbox360's architecture is not similar to a PC at all. It's not using any PC parts at all. However, a lot of ppl are saying that development on the 360 is nice because the tools microsoft provides are good. Carmack's game engine developed for the 360 will utilize its graphics capabilities to the maximum and prove me right about Xenos laugh.gif

The PS3's RSX is just a modified G71, which is a PC part. Hahahaha.

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