Hi all,
I would like to share with you my experience in Gout. I'm 48 years old. It all started January last year when i was detected through blood test having high Uric Acid. It was 423 UMOL/L, the normal level was between 202-415 UMOL/L

I did not pay much attention to it, thinking i could do some dieting and exercise it will be ok. I Was Wrong.

In August 2012, I suddenly had a severe pain at the back, it was unbearable and i was cold sweating.

I was admitted to Columbia Hospital, and after a CT scan, I was diagnose with stone in the Eureter.

In case u dont know where it is, it is a small tube connected to our kidney. It was uric acid stone about 0.14mm in size.

Luckily for me , though painful ,the stone is small and surgery was not required. I was given some lubricant to drink to flush it out.


After things was fine, as usual i was ask not to take food that are high in protein and purines like spinach, soya bean, sardines, meat, animal organs, anchovy, etc etc etc... I was ask to drink 4 litres of water a day , which resulted in going to the toilet every hour or so.. very inconvenient... Doctor suggest me on medication, but i decline because those medicine has side effect that damage our liver in the long run. So the only option for me is dieting.

My goodness, practically everything has protein and if i'm on diet, i lose a good quality life.

From that day onwards i was determine to find a cure. After searching for months i finally found a product that solve my problem, and now i'm eating normally without dieting, though not excessively ,high protein food like a normal person.

My uric acid blood test result dropped from 423 to 375 UMOL/L within normal level without dieting or drinking excessive amount of water like before.

I'm sorry i cannot mention the product name because i dont want to sound like a salesman here. I'm not.

but if anyone pm me, i will forward the details as my purpose was to help rather than to hard sell since i was also help by other person who introduce me this wonderful product.

Bottom line is, if you are suffering from gout or uric acid high, dont give up, there are cures.

423 to 375 aint exactly an achievement. u should know that the level fluctuates from day to day, depending on what u eat, how much u drink, how much u urinate. i dont think the product helped.

come, let's go and drink beer plus bbq pork for 3 days and 3 nights. let's see what will happen.

oh, and 375 is still higher than 350......and not an achievement also.

and it's the purines that's causing the gout problem. not all protein is bad for gout. learn more you need.

good news........you will not die from gout........but you will die from complications of gout if you don't manage it properly. so go ahead and eat what you want.

can u give me the detail please ...

thanks for your feedback, all opinions are most welcome. It is perfectly ok to be pessimistic. After all I was pessimistic too when i was introduce to the product. But I finally took the holistic approach, namely not to give up and believe when there is a problem, there is always a cure...

To me, i just want to make my uric acid level to normal. When i said normal, not only those figures, but most importantly i can eat normally like usual, (not excessively though) no need to go on diet purposely, or drink a lot of water that makes me going to the toilet every hourly, and i can go on with my usual life without any pain.
To me that is good enough. Isn't that is what every gout sufferers wants?

That said, too low uric acid level (out of the normal level) is also bad according to my doctor because our body need uric acid too . Best is to stay between the normal recommended range.

The product did exactly that. It break down protein that our body metabolism fails to do effectively.

Hi,
As I said, taking the product doesnt mean that we all now can eat excessively on purpose. What i want to achieve is my uric acid level back within normal range, and i have no pain, no need to go on strict diet that will effect my quality of life..

Purines are found in all protein. breaking down protein sufficiently will reduce uric acid level.

you are correct, managing gout properly is what we want, and the product did exactly that.

my partner is suffering from gout. i'd like to know more about this product.

thanks .

already pm you the product detail. check yr pm. have a healthy day.

milk and egg white has no purine. and i am still skeptical of the "product"

It is perfectly ok to be skeptical. I was skeptical too when i was first introduce to the product. But after hearing testimonies after testimonies, so i figure, what the heck.. just give it a try and if it doesnt work, i will move on ..

so i tried the product for one month as i know very much, only blood tests before taking it and after taking it will clear any doubt once and for all..

I remember i read somewhere that a scientist once said " It is very bad to be superstitious over everything that we heard or read...but it is equally bad if we heard of something superstitious and not investigate about it"

that is why i finally gave it a try, and thank god i did. I'm taking it everyday now on, and have no more issues whatsoever.

after all it is a supplements that's made of all natural ingredients.

Pls PM Me. Thx

sorry, still no pm.

easiest way ,exercise and sweat like a pig and drink a whole lot of water.

too more protein and no exercise this cause a gout

usually it most happen in malay guy for always eat cow meat.

That was what initially i thought. I did the same. Not much of an effect, also very inconvenient going to toilet every hour or so cause need to drink at least 4 liters a day.

Please PM me more about this product. Thanks yeah.

not necessary, due to many factors we got gout. Age, stress, pollution , taking in intoxicant like alcohol, smoking, lack of exercising, irregular sleeping hours, lifestyle changes, eating habits. etc etc..

All these effect our metabolism, the ability of our body to break down nutrients like vitamins, carbohydrate , sugar, protein so that our body can absorb. Because of that our metabolism slow down..

Do you all know that recent study states that those above 20 years of age, their metabolism level is the same as those who are 35 years old? 15 years ahead.

that is how bad it is right now. That is why we see more and more people getting gout at very young age compared to people of same age 50 years ago.

yes that i know

young age have old body system
this is freaking news!!!!

somebody think eat too much in young will have nothing effect, in fact it make our internal fast old

Yes, that is why we need this product to help us digest/breakdown nutrients so that our body can absorb.
It also can withstand stomach acid , without effecting it's reactivity.

I've seen demonstration and have also done demonstration myself.

I put an egg into a glass (to simulate protein ) and put the product in and stir with a spoon.

less than 5 minutes, the sticky egg white and egg york become liquid very very watery..

this shows that it's ability to break down protein is very good.

nuskin product can aging body age
i never try, only listen

pm you already..

PM me too

pm you already

second time pm you.. this time, hope you can see this wonderful product..

I bet you its some Herbalife or MLM crap.

No thanks to bad rubbish.

It's not herbalife or a crap. I did a research on the product, it's contents, how it works and met a few people who had taken the product to gather feedback before i decide to take it myself.

And I have my blood test to proof my point. I have even taken another blood test last thursday (after a year taking the product) just to proof if it was consistent , and i'm now waiting for my doctor to call me on the result..

I took the holistic approach towards my Uric Acid problem, and i'm glad to find that it work.
So i intended to share with people who suffers the same fate.

My point is, it is very bad to be superstitious of everything we heard or read, but it is equally bad if we did not investigate on anything that seems superstitious by just simply brushing it off as nonsense.

Hi all,

this is an update of my latest blood test result.. it was consistent with what i tested earlier (last year)

after taking the product daily, again my uric acid level was within normal limits of 370 UMOL/L with no dieting, no exercise and no drinking excessively lots of water (i only drink when i felt thirsty of course)

However, I was surprise that my total Cholesterol level also dropped 15%. from 6.6 last year to now 5.6

Before taking this product , i have tried taking Oats meals, Hi Omega 3 fish oil, taking leichitin capsule, exercising, dieting ,well my cholesterol did go down but only about 1% at most.

but now i have stop all that, just taking this product, a 15% drop, was a great news for me..

I'm still in awe as I write this in disbelieve..

I have decided to take more of this product (3 packets a day, now currently taking 2 packets) to see if my cholesterol level can go down further and will take a cholesterol test after another 3 months later.

will update you all on this..

at the mean time anyone else interested can pm me for details..






This post has been edited by leboch: Jul 19 2013, 08:09 AM

i also have a product which has good effect on gout patient..in chronic stage,you can see how the uric asid released through your body..

no need to pm or what just state here the product name so that we can do our own research.

Its always best to go the natural way if possible, drugs or medications always come with undesirable side effects.
I found a few of natural remedy that work.
Drinking some apple cider vinegar works well to suppress the flare ups. a teaspoon with water a day.
avoid veggies such as asparagus and cauliflower since they contain higher levels of purines than other veggies.
avoid sugary drinks such as soda and sweetened juices. they help build up uric acid levels really fast... pain...
some strawberries work well. they help flush uric acid out of the body.

I found some information from here www.bestgoutcure.com/blog
hope this helps.

True, that is why the product i chose was also made from natural ingredients... It is made from all natural things without any harmful substances, mostly vegetables and fruits like pumpkins, papaya, white bean, corn, bananas, wheat, tomato,
burdock etc etc etc..

try it and you will not regret.

Vrry interesting...pls PM me the product. I too have suffer from kidney stone and high cholesterol.

This post has been edited by newtoapple: Jul 18 2013, 12:40 PM

pm you already.. do try it, then do a blood test.. I have now introduce to my relatives.. they are taking it for months already and waiting for their blood test result..will update you all on the result..

my partner is suffering frm gout for 13years already.. stil couldnt find any cure..
im interested to know about the product. pls PM me. tq

pm you already..

Hi Leboch,

Pl pm me as I am still taking alluprino. Thanks

pm you already..

pm me too.been suffering

Hi,

pm you already..

I'm planing to organize a collective buying soon to reduce the cost to benefit all. If you are interested please visit my thread "Gout or uric acid high" from time to time for this latest update.

pm me pls.
thanks

pm you already.

PM me also.. Tq

can u just state the product here. enough with all the PM me message. it's wasting the bandwidth

Pm me pls, I got few clients with high uric acid shooting thru the roof.

One even had severe arthritis, causing him to limb when walking. Of course I had advise him to live healthily but sometimes lifestyle is not easily change

i know someone with gout. pm me. works with cholesterol too?

My story was originally from me and not copy paste from any other company website. I had my blood test result to support my claims. You mention MLM company, may I know what is MLM company?
MLM company sounds like bad company, I dont know... but what I do know is that it was produce by a company that has GMP standard.(Good Manufacturing Practice)
I was introduce by a friend to take this product. I have been buying it from my friend ever since.

Since it works on me and many others that I have heard from (other friends, including my family members and relatives) so i decided to share it with those who had the same fate as me, but I was warned by my friend that my good intention may backfire especially on the net, by cyber bullies... but I insisted in letting more people know to get "good karma" (just my own believes) but decided that i will only pm those who are really interested in getting other solutions to their gout problems.

I would like to stress here is that Gout is a deficiency of our body to break down proteins. This supplements helps the body break down protein more efficiently. This means you must take it regularly to avoid gout, and you can go on with your own lifestyle as usual without dieting or exercising on purpose. How much to take depends on how severe is your gout.

Regarding the ingredients, it is all from natural substances that is free from harmful chemicals, radiation, toxic etc..
namely, corn, wheat , bananas, papayas, pumpkin, white beans, tomatoes, seaweed, rice germs, burdock and formasanus vegetables.

I'm in a mist of negotiating with the company through my friend to buy in huge bulk (since i have to take it regularly anyway) so as to get cheaper price in the longer run. Those who are interested can pm me and i can give details on how to pay safely and cheaply to benefit both parties.

Try it and do a blood test before and afterwards and it works .. it helps lower my cholesterol too, this i only know recently..

Ok, since you are interested in the manufacturer name and address, i can pm you the details, but not mentioning it here in a public for reasons already mention above. Already pm you those details and you can do your own research and come back with me please with your latest info..
so, mlm means direct selling company..

To me, to be fair , not all direct selling company are bad, or for that matter all their products are hopeless..
some reputable company do sell quality products that are still here even decades after it first started.

I can understand your concern over bad ingredient.
This product, had gone through many lab test result from US, Singapore,Taiwan, Malaysia and is found not to have any harmful chemicals, toxic etc..

It is even selling in Singapore for years already. I was told products to be sold in Singapore needs to go through stringent testing by Singapore government before it can be sold there..

and this product had gone through all this...

yes works with cholesterol too.. pm you already.

pm you already, this product must take regularly for it to work, dont worry it is all from natural ingredients. yeah, lifestyle difficult to change but though this product helps, that does not mean yr client can purposely eat excessively high purine foods, just eat or live as usual normally without excessively..

Hi..

pls pm me details..pls.. thanks

the marketer company is

creative network international enterprise (m) sdn bhd
Wisma CNI 2 jalan U1/17 seksyen U1
hicom-glenmarie industrial park
40000 shah alam , selangor..

OK about the manufacturer written on the box..

TOP ONE BIOTECH CO. LTD
NO 38, Ln. 269, ZHONGZHENG RD
YONGKANG DIST, TAINAN CITY, 710
TAIWAN



It is ok to be suspicious, but most importantly is to share with us what you have found out about the company..
I'm sure many others out there wanted to know too..

You are right. We both are not the manufacturer therefore everyone should do their own research too if they are doubtful.

However as a consumer , I stand by my claims that after taking the product , my Uric Acid level was back to normal levels and so does many of my family members and relatives.

A pharmacist recommend one of my fren to take celery seed to relieve gout by reducing excessive uric acid from blood.
My friend is taking it the brand of Natural Factors from canada, not from mlm. He said it helps to maintain and reduce of getting recurrent attacks.
Hope this helps for those who are having gout problem.

It is ok if you dont trust MLM , it is all you own personal opinion and i respected it.

and I have no intentions to change that..

However,

I have my own opinions too..
I think it is rather unfair to brand all MLM products that is unreliable .. Many out there I'm sure must have also taken products from MLM that is good.

Yes I've heard of "pearl" or milk tea problems from taiwan..,

and I also hear of those "China Dolls"(woman from china) are prostitutes..

So do we call all china girls we met from china is prostitutes?

hmnnn... something we all should ponder about..

Pm me pls

pm me too plz...

just gulp yourself with lemons and ACG

Pm me pls

I've been a gout sufferer for over 10 years (since I was 23 yrs old). And believe me I've tried every single drug and protocols out there except daily and adequate amounts of alkaline water since I don't have a consistent supply of it.

Just try googling Gout cures - you'll easily find testimonies of thousands of different protocols while medical journals concede to the statement - "No cure".

The reason why gout is so prevalent, without a drug cure, is because not enough doctors suffer from it. Conventional doctors themselves have no idea how gout begins, and natural-healing doctors are better educated but there are few around. The best advice you can get about gout are from gout sufferers.

What is Gout?
Gout is not a disease, its a symptom - a major one.

In simple terms, gout is a symptom that whatever you've been doing to your body be it eating, drinking, exercising, sleeping is just plain wrong and will get worse if you don't start doing anything about it. This is the sole reason why there is no one-size-fits-all approach to gout, and regrettably it is a myth that a single drug or product can act as a true cure. Another big myth is that one doesn't need to be old, fat or obese to get gout. I was at 13% bodyfat when I had my first attack which is the bodyfat average of athletes in Malaysia.

In medical terms, gout is a symptom and indicator to more serious health problems in the future. The common ones kidney stones and diabetes.

What happens during gout
Every gout sufferer knows that purines get metabolised causing high uric acid in the blood. Urate crystals form but doesn't get pee'd out and instead gets deposited in the joints. Your white blood cells keep attacking it and you either feel gouty or get the full blown acute attack.

Myth 1
Doctors tell you that, other than purines from food, your body also produces its own uric acid - which is false. The urate crystals form days later AFTER having a gout attack. New research from former WHO head shows that uric acid is more likely metabolised by fungal or parasitic activities.

Myth 2
Conventional doctors will tell you that your kidneys lack enzymes to properly expel uric acid. That's what they tell me every time even though my kidney work results show no issues whatsoever. In reality, it's true that your body isn't expelling enough uric acid. But its false that you lack enzymes to metabolise purines.


Why people get gout

1. Fungal/parasites
Every gout sufferer should check for this early on. However, most will turn out negative because medical scientists haven't found a reliable way to look it. There are hundreds of thousands species known to affect the human body.

2. Lack of pH buffers (High body acidity)
Every time you eat, drink, work, exercise and sleep you will cause an acidity change. The body will use pH buffers like sodium, magnesium, calcium, potassium and other minerals to buffer the change so that your blood and parts of the body can keep within their respective healthy pH levels.

For gout sufferer specifically, the body had produced too much acids without sufficient minerals to buffer. This causes the urine to be acidic which ultimately renders the kidneys unable to optimally expel excess uric acid. This build up eventually leads to gout attack.

This is the most common cause. However, not everyone's high acidity is from the same mineral deficiency.

3. Sugar and Fructose
Both are known to inhibit your body's natural ability to rid uric acid.

4. Fat loss (Losing weight)
Over a period of time, uric acid can be stored in fat cells so the blood stream can have high uric acid when burning fat really fast. I lost 6kg in 1 month and instantly had an acute gout attack. Many others with a history of gout have had the same experience.


Curing gout with drugs

Colcichine - stops the pain by halting your white blood cells from attacking the crystals
Allopurinol/Uloric - lowers uric acid in the blood.

These work but you're only dumbing down the problem, not correctly fixing it. Behind the scenes your body and kidney is still having issues with excess uric acid.

Many gout sufferers have to increase their dose of Allopurinol or Uloric because as they age they're increasing their body's acidity.


Curing gout the real way

Every gout case is different due to different inefficiencies in the body either from diet or minerals. So do trial and error to see what works. For minor cases, upping their water intake is enough.

1. Stop sugar
Stay away from sugars - all processed and carbonated drinks.

2. Stop juice
Don't drink juice even if fresh. Fructose without the fiber is problematic and makes you fat quickly.

3. Lower serving from starch carbohydrates
High amounts of rice, pasta, potatoes cause sugar spikes

4. Colon and kidney cleanse
This is to restore function and might also remove fungus/parasites

5. Restore pH levels:

i. Google for acidic foods/drinks and apply it.
You don't have to stop eating meats or high purine foods. I take 150 grams of protein every day. The primary factor is the acidity of the food after it gets metabolised.

ii. Baking soda/sea salt
This gives your body the sodium and bicarbonates to help buffer the acids. Take quarter teaspoon in water, 1-4 times a day, 30mins before or after meals.

Note: If you eat alot of salty foods, then Sodium may not be what your body is lacking.

iii. Potassium
Some people take Baking soda on its own and it doesn't work. That's because potassium and sodium levels each other out. If you increase one, you need to increase the other. This translates to higher buffers.

I take fruits and veges for Potassium.

iv. Magnesium/Calcium/Vitamin D
These 3 work in tandem. Try take supplements for these to a high but safe amount.

v. Vitamin C
3000mg a day. This is your main and healthy anti-inflammatory supplement.

vi. Fresh coconuts
Reverses body acidity and the only juice allowed for drinking.

vii. Vitamins & Minerals
Today's vegetables aren't as nutritious so take multivitamins from a good brand.


Other methods I tried but didn't work for me since I had adequate reserves of Potassium:
1. Cherry fresh, juice, concentrates, extracts
2. Celery seed boiled, extracts
3. Organic Apple Cider Vinegar
4. Chia Seeds
5. 2-4 liters water with lemon


Feel free to PM me if you're not clear about anything. Good luck.

This post has been edited by Owen: May 12 2014, 01:13 AM

citations for parts in bold please

Fungus-Uric Acid connection in

http://www.nature.com/pr/journal/v24/n1/abs/pr1988417a.html

from

http://www.fungalbionicbookseries.com/


The rest are Gout's common knowledge. You can google them all.

Hi all
I originally started this message in 2013.. ive received countless of enquiries even up to even
today regarding the product i use to solve my gout aka high uric acid problem. Up to today im still taking the product called life enzyme 2 sachets a day and my uric acid is still at normal range every time i go for blood test for the past 4 years.. so time have proven its a working solution. Hence i would like to recommend to those who wish to try out this product can buy directly from the company ... www.cni.my and click join us. Then click sign up and enter " yes" to the questions about sponsor. Put both refferal and sponsor number as 1743773 and fill in the rest particulars yourself. Pls note that i dont sell this product as i have receive many messages asking me so. I can only recommend hence my refferal no.
Stay healthy everyone..

Have a nice day..

This post has been edited by leboch: Aug 22 2017, 03:29 PM

The solution to diet is have oat for every meal.. healthy

Hi thanks for yr input.. i have tried eating oat meal daily.. it doesnt cure or even help my uric acid problem. Only the above mention product " life enzyme " helps my uric acid level to normal. It consists of more than 300 types of enzymes that helps digestions of protein.

purine is precursor of uric acid.
purine is not a protein.

Hi Lebloh, mind to share with me you solution towards uric acid...thx

Hi, do we any support group?