pm you already.

PM me also.. Tq

can u just state the product here. enough with all the PM me message. it's wasting the bandwidth

Pm me pls, I got few clients with high uric acid shooting thru the roof.

One even had severe arthritis, causing him to limb when walking. Of course I had advise him to live healthily but sometimes lifestyle is not easily change

i know someone with gout. pm me. works with cholesterol too?

My story was originally from me and not copy paste from any other company website. I had my blood test result to support my claims. You mention MLM company, may I know what is MLM company?
MLM company sounds like bad company, I dont know... but what I do know is that it was produce by a company that has GMP standard.(Good Manufacturing Practice)
I was introduce by a friend to take this product. I have been buying it from my friend ever since.

Since it works on me and many others that I have heard from (other friends, including my family members and relatives) so i decided to share it with those who had the same fate as me, but I was warned by my friend that my good intention may backfire especially on the net, by cyber bullies... but I insisted in letting more people know to get "good karma" (just my own believes) but decided that i will only pm those who are really interested in getting other solutions to their gout problems.

I would like to stress here is that Gout is a deficiency of our body to break down proteins. This supplements helps the body break down protein more efficiently. This means you must take it regularly to avoid gout, and you can go on with your own lifestyle as usual without dieting or exercising on purpose. How much to take depends on how severe is your gout.

Regarding the ingredients, it is all from natural substances that is free from harmful chemicals, radiation, toxic etc..
namely, corn, wheat , bananas, papayas, pumpkin, white beans, tomatoes, seaweed, rice germs, burdock and formasanus vegetables.

I'm in a mist of negotiating with the company through my friend to buy in huge bulk (since i have to take it regularly anyway) so as to get cheaper price in the longer run. Those who are interested can pm me and i can give details on how to pay safely and cheaply to benefit both parties.

Try it and do a blood test before and afterwards and it works .. it helps lower my cholesterol too, this i only know recently..

Ok, since you are interested in the manufacturer name and address, i can pm you the details, but not mentioning it here in a public for reasons already mention above. Already pm you those details and you can do your own research and come back with me please with your latest info..
so, mlm means direct selling company..

To me, to be fair , not all direct selling company are bad, or for that matter all their products are hopeless..
some reputable company do sell quality products that are still here even decades after it first started.

I can understand your concern over bad ingredient.
This product, had gone through many lab test result from US, Singapore,Taiwan, Malaysia and is found not to have any harmful chemicals, toxic etc..

It is even selling in Singapore for years already. I was told products to be sold in Singapore needs to go through stringent testing by Singapore government before it can be sold there..

and this product had gone through all this...

yes works with cholesterol too.. pm you already.

pm you already, this product must take regularly for it to work, dont worry it is all from natural ingredients. yeah, lifestyle difficult to change but though this product helps, that does not mean yr client can purposely eat excessively high purine foods, just eat or live as usual normally without excessively..

Hi..

pls pm me details..pls.. thanks

the marketer company is

creative network international enterprise (m) sdn bhd
Wisma CNI 2 jalan U1/17 seksyen U1
hicom-glenmarie industrial park
40000 shah alam , selangor..

OK about the manufacturer written on the box..

TOP ONE BIOTECH CO. LTD
NO 38, Ln. 269, ZHONGZHENG RD
YONGKANG DIST, TAINAN CITY, 710
TAIWAN



It is ok to be suspicious, but most importantly is to share with us what you have found out about the company..
I'm sure many others out there wanted to know too..

You are right. We both are not the manufacturer therefore everyone should do their own research too if they are doubtful.

However as a consumer , I stand by my claims that after taking the product , my Uric Acid level was back to normal levels and so does many of my family members and relatives.

A pharmacist recommend one of my fren to take celery seed to relieve gout by reducing excessive uric acid from blood.
My friend is taking it the brand of Natural Factors from canada, not from mlm. He said it helps to maintain and reduce of getting recurrent attacks.
Hope this helps for those who are having gout problem.

It is ok if you dont trust MLM , it is all you own personal opinion and i respected it.

and I have no intentions to change that..

However,

I have my own opinions too..
I think it is rather unfair to brand all MLM products that is unreliable .. Many out there I'm sure must have also taken products from MLM that is good.

Yes I've heard of "pearl" or milk tea problems from taiwan..,

and I also hear of those "China Dolls"(woman from china) are prostitutes..

So do we call all china girls we met from china is prostitutes?

hmnnn... something we all should ponder about..

Pm me pls

pm me too plz...

just gulp yourself with lemons and ACG

Pm me pls

I've been a gout sufferer for over 10 years (since I was 23 yrs old). And believe me I've tried every single drug and protocols out there except daily and adequate amounts of alkaline water since I don't have a consistent supply of it.

Just try googling Gout cures - you'll easily find testimonies of thousands of different protocols while medical journals concede to the statement - "No cure".

The reason why gout is so prevalent, without a drug cure, is because not enough doctors suffer from it. Conventional doctors themselves have no idea how gout begins, and natural-healing doctors are better educated but there are few around. The best advice you can get about gout are from gout sufferers.

What is Gout?
Gout is not a disease, its a symptom - a major one.

In simple terms, gout is a symptom that whatever you've been doing to your body be it eating, drinking, exercising, sleeping is just plain wrong and will get worse if you don't start doing anything about it. This is the sole reason why there is no one-size-fits-all approach to gout, and regrettably it is a myth that a single drug or product can act as a true cure. Another big myth is that one doesn't need to be old, fat or obese to get gout. I was at 13% bodyfat when I had my first attack which is the bodyfat average of athletes in Malaysia.

In medical terms, gout is a symptom and indicator to more serious health problems in the future. The common ones kidney stones and diabetes.

What happens during gout
Every gout sufferer knows that purines get metabolised causing high uric acid in the blood. Urate crystals form but doesn't get pee'd out and instead gets deposited in the joints. Your white blood cells keep attacking it and you either feel gouty or get the full blown acute attack.

Myth 1
Doctors tell you that, other than purines from food, your body also produces its own uric acid - which is false. The urate crystals form days later AFTER having a gout attack. New research from former WHO head shows that uric acid is more likely metabolised by fungal or parasitic activities.

Myth 2
Conventional doctors will tell you that your kidneys lack enzymes to properly expel uric acid. That's what they tell me every time even though my kidney work results show no issues whatsoever. In reality, it's true that your body isn't expelling enough uric acid. But its false that you lack enzymes to metabolise purines.


Why people get gout

1. Fungal/parasites
Every gout sufferer should check for this early on. However, most will turn out negative because medical scientists haven't found a reliable way to look it. There are hundreds of thousands species known to affect the human body.

2. Lack of pH buffers (High body acidity)
Every time you eat, drink, work, exercise and sleep you will cause an acidity change. The body will use pH buffers like sodium, magnesium, calcium, potassium and other minerals to buffer the change so that your blood and parts of the body can keep within their respective healthy pH levels.

For gout sufferer specifically, the body had produced too much acids without sufficient minerals to buffer. This causes the urine to be acidic which ultimately renders the kidneys unable to optimally expel excess uric acid. This build up eventually leads to gout attack.

This is the most common cause. However, not everyone's high acidity is from the same mineral deficiency.

3. Sugar and Fructose
Both are known to inhibit your body's natural ability to rid uric acid.

4. Fat loss (Losing weight)
Over a period of time, uric acid can be stored in fat cells so the blood stream can have high uric acid when burning fat really fast. I lost 6kg in 1 month and instantly had an acute gout attack. Many others with a history of gout have had the same experience.


Curing gout with drugs

Colcichine - stops the pain by halting your white blood cells from attacking the crystals
Allopurinol/Uloric - lowers uric acid in the blood.

These work but you're only dumbing down the problem, not correctly fixing it. Behind the scenes your body and kidney is still having issues with excess uric acid.

Many gout sufferers have to increase their dose of Allopurinol or Uloric because as they age they're increasing their body's acidity.


Curing gout the real way

Every gout case is different due to different inefficiencies in the body either from diet or minerals. So do trial and error to see what works. For minor cases, upping their water intake is enough.

1. Stop sugar
Stay away from sugars - all processed and carbonated drinks.

2. Stop juice
Don't drink juice even if fresh. Fructose without the fiber is problematic and makes you fat quickly.

3. Lower serving from starch carbohydrates
High amounts of rice, pasta, potatoes cause sugar spikes

4. Colon and kidney cleanse
This is to restore function and might also remove fungus/parasites

5. Restore pH levels:

i. Google for acidic foods/drinks and apply it.
You don't have to stop eating meats or high purine foods. I take 150 grams of protein every day. The primary factor is the acidity of the food after it gets metabolised.

ii. Baking soda/sea salt
This gives your body the sodium and bicarbonates to help buffer the acids. Take quarter teaspoon in water, 1-4 times a day, 30mins before or after meals.

Note: If you eat alot of salty foods, then Sodium may not be what your body is lacking.

iii. Potassium
Some people take Baking soda on its own and it doesn't work. That's because potassium and sodium levels each other out. If you increase one, you need to increase the other. This translates to higher buffers.

I take fruits and veges for Potassium.

iv. Magnesium/Calcium/Vitamin D
These 3 work in tandem. Try take supplements for these to a high but safe amount.

v. Vitamin C
3000mg a day. This is your main and healthy anti-inflammatory supplement.

vi. Fresh coconuts
Reverses body acidity and the only juice allowed for drinking.

vii. Vitamins & Minerals
Today's vegetables aren't as nutritious so take multivitamins from a good brand.


Other methods I tried but didn't work for me since I had adequate reserves of Potassium:
1. Cherry fresh, juice, concentrates, extracts
2. Celery seed boiled, extracts
3. Organic Apple Cider Vinegar
4. Chia Seeds
5. 2-4 liters water with lemon


Feel free to PM me if you're not clear about anything. Good luck.

This post has been edited by Owen: May 12 2014, 01:13 AM

citations for parts in bold please

Fungus-Uric Acid connection in

http://www.nature.com/pr/journal/v24/n1/abs/pr1988417a.html

from

http://www.fungalbionicbookseries.com/


The rest are Gout's common knowledge. You can google them all.