i deal with this person (jameslee_84) to buy his nk6670, have dealing bout 1 week or less.... he offering rm600 for the phone + 512mb mmc card +post cost and i agreed with that..... i made my payment yesterday and ask him to send the phone at the same day



then i made the payment and wait the update, but he don't sms or pm me.... until this morning i sms him and he send the above ststemant

1. really angry coz he don't cheack the phone first before made the deal, i ask his is the phone ok? he saih yes
2. he already used my money to buy new phone, but i don't get what should i get
3. he ask for 2 months to refunnd full amount (rm600) but he get new phone i a day, i need to wait 2 months to get my money...

hope u all can help me..... this thing make me sometime not trust nobody in this thread.... now but not all

should the seller refund the whole amount if he failed to sell the item in short?

put him to the garage sales blacklist

ask him to borrow his new phone to u till his 6670 baack from servicing

frankly speaking, you just need to made a police report and let the police settle this. why make yourself suffers so much? no point writing here and hope for sympathy from other members. he con you, that's the fact.

I PMed jameslee_84 before and he agreed to sell his Nokia 6670 full set with 512MB memory card for RM700. Last two days, he PMed me and told me that he had bought the memory card and waited for my payment. Fortunately, i did not buy the phone from him.

dun simply accuse others when u dun hav evidence

jameslee din conned him & run away wif the money, he's requesting more time to refund arjuna_mfa, let him explain here & settle wif arjuna_mfa 1st

this not fair to me coz he used the money for new phone, i get nothing.... rm600 not small amount......... should i get this case to police.....?

this his contact no.

hey man......i'm seriously sorry..... i just bought the memory card few days ago nia.....all de while when i using it, i din intend to buy yet ma until i wanna sell de phone....i really didn't know it was faulty.....
i'm trying to be a good seller thats y send for checkup first and wanna upgrade software for u......cos it was bit laggy earlier, and i was said to con ppl?? i shud have jus sell u a faulty phone, would dat make u happier or angrier? think about it la.....i'm trying to come up with the money asap la.....but i'm having my final exams now, or else i can work and pay u.....hope u give me sometime for my allowance to come in la....

i know u r pretty angry but pls pls jus give me sometime la.....
max 2 months only.....i really dun intend to cheat or con or watever la...
u prefer i sell u a faulty phone and dun care or admit my mistake and refund u cash...?? pls understand la.....i've been here for 3 yrs in LYN di, anybody that traded with me is satisfied......u can check with them....
600, is it worth it to con ppl jus for RM600??

Yes it is worth. Some ppl RM100 also con.

@jameslee_84
hey... put urself in his situation. u wil know how he feels. this is not the time/place to say how good u ar becoz u check be4 u send the item. the fact is u got his money n he din receive anything. if i were him, i wil b angry also. its like borrowing money from someone (but u don pay interest). perhaps u should consider paying him back with interest. fair for both of u

n btw.... i was conned for RM50 be4... by an idiotic conman... haha

Don't add fuel to fire brother.

Anyway, you think the police will be kind enough to investigate arjuna_mfna's case? Think again. They will most probably ask you to settle among yourselves first. If things doesn't change (or worsen), then only go back to them.

Now that jameslee_84 has came in and clarified himself, I think arjuna_mfna should give him some time. If things doesn't change, then look for legal action.

Just wanna add, jameslee_84, since you gave your client a 7-day warranty, I think you should hold onto the cash for at least 7-days before using it. Just in case there is a need of refund, you can do it. It's clear that you haven't hold onto the cash, and now you're in a problem.

Just my views.

Vikingw2k sell faulty 6670 to jameslee

jameslee_84

Seriously u shouldnt use the $$$ b4 u sent out the item and buyer confirm its allright ,
Or else many plp will use this excuse to borrow money (it happen last time) ,but I am not saying u , I knw u r really wanna sell ur phone and is genuire seller but think for arjuna_mfna ,its not fair for him ,anyway , I think the best way is u go get money and return to him now.(sell ur newphone ,borrow from friends ,sell ur stuff to ur friends and buy back from ur friend after u get back $$$)


Conman dnt borther how much ,even under RM100 they also conned.

This post has been edited by lgs: May 12 2006, 04:24 PM

yesh, i think u should pay him with interest which should be set by him.. else u go borrow along n pay him back

thanks for ur supports guys.... really appreciate......

hope can soft the case asap.... really angry with him coz use the money without send anyting...... thing i'm a banker or what...

but still angry till mou, can't take a seat, thingking bout rm600, it not small amount, maybe he thing worst con rm600, for me need to work a month to get the money, and then sipmly give the money to him....

ya i ask him to give 1 week personal warranty and he agree (like firts post), he should hold the money till i received the phone and and makesure the phone working well like he promised, just in case hv prob with the item so easy seller tp refund or take action.... now he just used the money and info me this morning bout the case.

like i say... ask him to refund immediately... or u count he delay refund for how long. even borrow money also need to pay interest ma

already ask him, he want 2 months to settle the full amount.... i can't wait till he get the money... noe try ask him to sell the phone and refund in 7 days.... or else

bro bro.....bagi la chance sikit.....i'm trying my best to come up with the money....u need work a month to get 600.....i can't even work cos of my exam.....pls understand.....i know i make a mistake already.....
its my first time mistake only man.....pls understand la really.....i'll try to get as much as i can by end of this month.....ok?? charge me interest will be killing me la....lagi susah for me.....after i settle ur refund i'll go kl after my exam, den i belanja u makan la ok? i'm seriously seriously sorry.......

don't want ur balanja makan, just want my money...... beside i'm in melaka, can u come and see ma at melaka?

just borrow the $$$ from ur parent to refund 1st, they wont charge u interest.

thanks dude, thing he scared to tell them coz he buy new phone with the money, and i trust his parent will ask him to sell the phone and refund the money..... he won't do that....

lol @ jameslee_84...

Borrow RM50 from 12 friends to refund ppl lah...

Maybe arjuna_mfna's life will be susah too without this RM600... U already make ppl susah by spending his money, now u still want ppl not to make u susah balik... *sigh*

arjuna u got his details? ask them back from his parents. or james just sell ur phone lose a couple of hundred just to refund arjuna here.

its just all a story bout u selling ur hp and ended up not giving arjuna a single thg. rm600 is not a small amount for a student. sorry isnt any use rite now. if im arjuna ill find a way to collect da money from you infront of ur house.

not at all, just hv his phone number, and acc no.... that all.....
thing some one can help me who know this person

This post has been edited by arjuna_mfna: May 12 2006, 07:24 PM

cant really help you with da details. mayb if u knw sum1 from maybank, u can eventually find out more from there.

this guy doin thgs like dis, its just like borrowing money from others and not selling stuff to me.

This is my suggestion.

RM600 / 8 (weeks) = RM75

Why don't you (jameslee_84) bank-in RM75 to arjuna_mfna every week, instead of trying paying back all RM600 at one shot? This way, both side could be happy.

Or pay RM300 up front, another RM300 over a month (RM75 a week).

Just my views.

not really happy for me, he responsilbe to refund full amount withi 1 week time, coz that in warranty period.... what ever he must settle asap....

DFlo wun work la dat way. if im arjuna i wudnt even agree to delay a single day for the payment.its just unfair to arjuna, unless hez willing to pay more. mayb rm700 in return. datz another way. else i wud suggest james to sell his hp or stuff, just to return da money.

after reading all the reply at this thread made me want to laugh. everybody, please wake up. it's like "i'm buying a car from you...sorry, i can only pay you later cause i used my money to bought a house, you like it or not...i'm not gonna pay you now cause i'm broke - but i'm driving the car now"

seller should go and borrow money from anyone (buyer don't care who he borrowed) and pay back to buyer. or else buyer should make a report and go to visit buyer's parent for a "friendly" talk. this thread should be closed

will not close till he refund full amount, wanna worn someone else and make sure this thing not happend again...

u rite the seller need borrow money fron anyone to settle this case... even this is first case to him, he had to be responsble what hv he done here

hey... do u think this is fair for the buyer? its like he pinjam his money to the seller without anything in return a? if u r the buyer, wat wil u do? RM600 wo... mayb delay a few days is ok. but 2 months??? even u loan from bank also need to pay interest la. somemore the buyer don even know the seller well

yap u rite..... if delay bout 1 week shpuld be fine la, but 2 months, it is not a short time.... what ever i want him to make full refund within 1 week from today....

i think jameslee_84 should sell off his new hp to settle this la....kesian arjuna_mfna la....

arjuna_mfna, u got his maybank acc number??....i might be able to trace him....but no gurantee...need to check with my maybank banker to help me....

Maybank
112447020069
Le Sheng Hun

thanks dude

It's just my suggestion.

I don't know whether it's fair to arjuna_mfna or not, but if I were arjuna_mfna, I'd have accepted it. Maybe a bitter pill to swallow, I'd still accept it. Better than to keep on waiting (1 day, 1 month or even 1 year) and no response from jameslee_84. I'd already pointed out that jameslee_84 was at fault for not holding onto the money for at least 7 days after the transaction. Anyways, I'm not the buyer, I can't make any decisions. It's all up to arjuna_mfna. I just hope this case will end in an orderly and peaceful manner.

And please, this deal doesn't involve any banks or loan sharks. So don't bring whatever bullsh!t "interest" topics into this problem.

ya....i'm at fault, but agreed to settle as much as possible end of this month and give extra 50 bucks as interest d.......till i settle with him, pls ppl dun add oil to the fire di.....
as a matter of fact, i jus hope all lyn ppl can give chance to other ppl dat ends up in my situation la.....dun alwiz screw la and wanna go police dis and dat.....sometimes a person is at fault but everyone deserve a chance....
even by the eye of the law.....i'm a law student la, so i know......court and police case is never the best way to solve a dispute......any other law student here will probably agree with me if u do read and understand the law.....

doesnt involve any banks or leon sharks doesnt mean arjuna cant do that since he DID lend his money to jameslee.. this is undeniedable n since jameslee broke his promise (1 week warranty) n not checking the phone condition before accepting the cash, arjuna deserve the right to charge interest on him providing jameslee couldnt pay back in personal warranty period

yayayayaya......can't u read my post, hai......agreed on interest to be charged d.....
so its enough......no need to quarrel who right and who's wrong......
i'm at fault and i admit and i've agreed with arjuna d......
so no need any extra idea to settle our dispute.....
besides, nobody here is a judge.....everyone is innocent till proven guilty, and deserve a fair trial....its not just a prima facie case, and i've provided an extra interest which is a good consideration already.....

already deal with him(jameslee) thw way to settle this case... he agreed to pay some interest, so the think consider settled ..... any way thanks for all helping me settle this thing....

This post has been edited by arjuna_mfna: May 13 2006, 12:03 PM

yea! glad u did agree with a solution here. btw rm50 interest for 2 months or a month? i also wanna lend u la. rm100 2 months. haha

sorry dude, i'm nor banker.... dia tedesak ma..... how ever agree la, dari xdapt langsung ma....

case closed....