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 PROTON SAVVY LYN club, D4F, JB1 repair manual inside

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calcd
post May 18 2006, 11:35 PM

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I just noticed something about the different reviews that are posted about the savvy

If there are other cars within the same price range (i.e a difference of a few hundred) the savvy always tend to get a bad review. UK reviews usually reflect this.

But if the price difference is big...say a few thousand...then the savvy tends to get a better review. Like the recent australia review.

Even the recent article about the savvy in the AutoCar magazine had conflicting reviews between the reviewers from Malaysia and the reviewers from UK. So the bottom line is, as long as there are better choices out there within the same price range, no one will bother looking at a proton.

Check out the actual car prices before taxes in Malaysia...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=290158

If this was the actual car prices in Malaysia....Proton will never be able to survive. Proton...buck up!!!! I have seen what good mechanics can do with the proton cars.

Now the whole main post was to get an honest opinion abou the savvy so this is my 2 cents after talking to a few mechanics

1. Nice handling
2. Good performance but only if it is well maintained. OOh and maintence for this car is higher as the renault engine does require extra tender care.


Sorry I went on too long biggrin.gif






calcd
post May 19 2006, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(soggie @ May 19 2006, 03:47 AM)
I think ur missing the point. The whole reason of comparing the original price of a car against another car is to determine its price to value ratio. Ignoring all other factors like import and excise duty, sales tax and so on, we can have a level playing ground in which to relatively judge all car's value.

Say for an example, you have a civic for 120k, and a waja for 60k. This is after tax. Let's say you take away all taxes and both cars arrive at a pretty similar pre-tax price, like 50k. Now, compare the features, build, quality and everything about both cars. The civic has I-vtec DOHC, the waja has I-have-nothing-not-even-DOHC SOHC. The civic has EL meter panel, the waja has normal meter panel. THe civic has lush interior with padded panels and good fabric, the waja has hard plastic. The civic has.... yada yada. Now at the same cost, the civic features far more features than waja.

You can argue that Honda has a much higher volume to offset the cost, but the fact is, Proton's stubborn insistence on producing sub-quality cars without addressing the issues that the rakyat care most about and even refusing to partner with other larger companies to increase their economy of scale, has eventually brought Proton to this realistic doom.

So from here its clear to see that the only way proton can compete is to put taxes on foreign competitors. However, this only guareenties Proton's survival in the local market. Being successful in the local market does nothing to improve the country's economy. It must export cars in order to truly help our economy, and when exported, again the price to value ratio comes to play. So who will buy a waja over a civic if they were to be priced similarly in say, US?

The whole protection thingy is a two edged sword. While it gives a good stepping stone for local companies, it breeds complacency, especially when applied to Malaysia where most of the rakyat are lazy and hedonistic in nature.
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Thanks man. You managed to explain what I wanted to say icon_rolleyes.gif




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