Yes, even Osram LED , some made in china, some still made in europe,
the price difference is shocking, 30% more ! now as importer, i don't even consider europe because other will just sell you the exact thing made in china 30% cheaper

yup, CFL do have good quality, but now a day people don't even buy OSRAM, PANASONIC, HITACHI or PHILLIPS , all sell china and malaysia brand

And and check the spec

Power factor
Lumens
CRI
Chip
Warranty

Price is ok, YET and Evenzo is the more affordable ones, but spec wise ... up to individual

I can offer 4" RM 90 ish 11w , depend how many units u looking for full retail RM110

Power factor 0.9
Lumens 1000
CRI >82
Chip Samsung
Warranty 2 years

Even CREE have few different chips , some are more , some are less
unless you study the lab report for everyone of them

I know china chip one will loose about 8 - 10% a year , max 50% lost
Taiwan Epistar less , much better than china brand

of coz
Bridgelux, Osram, Samsung, Citizen, etc much better, coz they are the top chip makers

The one is economical is Aztech 6w 550 lm @ 3000k , about the RM38 each
but no stock at the moment

normal consumer, No ahahaha
project , YES

Aztech from Singapore, Made in China
Driver failure about 2% so far , so every 100 units 2 will come back 1 year or 2.
2 years warranty

Aztech 6" wattage 8w, 16w, 24w, 30w
i don't think budget enough, very sorry, you need to source for some lower specs

At the moment, Aztech is the lowest spec and cheapest brand i carry, others i don't deal because warranty issue

your budget can go for Evanzo , YET , CYK
i think they are within your budget.

most of the lighting shop have them.

Agree, but YET and Evanzo going to setup factory in Malaysia, so i think they will start giving warranty for 1 year
quality wise, is a cent to a cent quality

Yes, you can install LED for your new home, in come in various form, you can but normal fitting and put a LED bulb or tube, or you can use LED downlight that comes in a set.
no, you do not need to change wiring if you already have wiring for your normal light.
downlight comes in square and round. yes, there are tiny halogen replacement as well ...
let me know or other forum people can advise as well.

cheers

Hi, if you planning to put 4" LED downlight, 10 nos, you getting about 500 lux , base one 10ft ceiling height, bright color wall, bright color tiles.
that is too much i think, this is brightness more than you get in bank 300 lux !!

i only sell 11w 4" downlight. about 300 lux you need probably only 6 4" 11w LED , pending on colors

300 lux is bright, i would not venture into it, i suggest about 200 lux for living, probably 4 - 5 units
2 units on the tv side and 2/3 unit on the sofa side, you will have some minor dark sport, but mehhh ... u can live with it.

you can come to our office @ ioi boulevard puchong

we have a show room at centrio bangsar south, but thats like demo unit, for architect and designer only

3 possible way to solve this:

1. maybe your dimmer not compatible with the LED light

2. voltage drop - i am assuming you loop the LED in series, is like switch to 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 back to switch
what you should do is loop parallel , switch to 1 and back , switch to 2 and back etc or use bigger cable if you do series

3. don't loop too many units together, like 8 unit with 2 dimmer switches instead one 1

if is the driver problem, then the unit is not suitable for dimming. then don't dim ...
i think no. 2 is the most common problem, even with Aztech LED

Hahaha you are correct brother, thats why they say *"up to" 50000 hours, yes, they won't last that long , because once u reach about 35,000k, you lumen degrade is pretty high, you might want to replace to newer tech, high lumen per watt, better driver, i will say good for 4 - 5 years, although technically it could last up to 8 - 10 years

reliability, well, product have no problem on design, the way consumer use it that worries the manufacturer. thats why there are limited warranty.
you see many installer want to be quick and cheap, so they always loop in series, that is not the problem, problem is the wire size they use is the same.

i assume a lot of people understand voltage drop, the longer the wire go, the more the voltage drop, thus a bigger wire is need.
just same as pipe, if u use a small pipe, the outlet near the source, will have very good floor, but the further (horizontally) the flow will drop pretty bad
same for voltage, you need a bigger pipe. well insufficient voltage always the case that cause the LED to flicker and damage the driver. especially dimming
you see we can make the driver very reliable, like handphone factory charger, but i will cost you RM150 a driver, and no one will pay for it.

like a lot of previous sifu have commented, good not cheap, cheap always some flaws, so is like gamble
even the product i sell is not perfect, unless i am selling a 15w downlight about rm400, 150 for driver, 150 for casing and LED, then maybe i am very confident on the quality.
they are quality commercial grade LED that can last 65,000 hours, minimal degration, hi CRI , warranty 5 years ...
but normal consumer won't pay for that, not even big corporates.

thanks for your feedback, i just realise a lot of people don't really need high CRI and i think reliability is the next one

would you consider like lets say, only 25,000 hours , high efficiency 80 -100 lm/w, CRI 70+ , warranty 2 years with good driver
because this will really drop the LED price to top ten price

Question to all, will you willing to pay for high grade LED for household ?

about RM70 per MR16 with transformer ??
Spec: Bridgelux XML chip, CRI85, Lumen 650lm, 3000k, 40degree, 35000 hours, cast aluminium 58mm length heat sink, CE ROHS certified customise driver

Hi, good idea, don't dim your LED even it is dimmable
anything pass thru a dimmer, the power factor drops, even you max out dimmer, you can't get 100% brightness out of the LED
unless your LED is too bright and you have dim, then no choice.

Hi Strip you can get from anywhere, make sure they supply you brighter ones.
where you stay, i can recommend one of my dealer or my kaki shop near your place

make sure you buy a good driver, nothing less than 80 buck for less than 100w
usually driver gives you problem , strip not really

looks like you going to spend money anyway.

one normal switch to replace the dimmer is about RM3 , labour maybe about 20 buck
or you change the dimmer to a more efficient dimmer, estimate about RM300

so change to a normal switch still cheaper way , you don't need a set of new wiring

hi, i am pretty sure is the same wiring , you just need to change from the dimmer switch to normal switch
and i am pretty sure you LED will be brighter.

1. maybe your dimmer not compatible with the LED light
>>> i think you change to normal switch , cannot dim will be a easier solve
>> if 2 LED to a switch, dimmer shouldn't have any problem, so i guess is not dimmer problem


2. voltage drop - i am assuming you loop the LED in series, is like switch to 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 back to switch
what you should do is loop parallel , switch to 1 and back , switch to 2 and back etc or use bigger cable if you do series
>>> yes, you need to spend a lot, i guess you better live with it or don't dim at all

3. don't loop too many units together, like 8 unit with 2 dimmer switches instead one 1
>>> same as above

sorry, best to save money is not to dim, unless you want to spend some money there
also if dim the Power factor PF will drop, mean the brightness will drop even you max out the dimmer
depends on the dimmer and driver, it could be as much as 15% - 20%

driver = transformer , is converting energy from AC to DC , same function
Gama, no comment , never spec there things before