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post Nov 23 2018, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Nov 23 2018, 04:01 PM)
by law they have to pay. its like court decision. if they wanna challenge tribunal decision developer have to bring to higher court (civil case edi). they have to prove lor. usually if tribunal awarded to purchaser already concrete reason. they dont simply2 award to you.

if they simply delay cannot mah. kena penalty. if wanna challenge than civil case. developer need to fork out money wor.

if declare bancrupt abit complicated. hahaha. but liquidator will take over from the bancrupt company. if a developer declare bancrupt then the development itself will be takeover by liquidator. all their land taken wor. not simply can declare bancrupt liddat. of course this process will take time.
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On some projects, the only viable solution to revive the project is through liquidations or foreclosure.
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post Nov 24 2018, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Nov 24 2018, 11:46 AM)
if LAD just go tribunal. if developer really at fault then  u cam get the full amount.sometimes developer fight back also.

better go as a team with other purchasers..hahah..imagine 100 purchaser got rm50k award each  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Lad is applicable if project vped. Believe no one knows when this project could complete.

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post Nov 24 2018, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 24 2018, 12:37 PM)
Actially lad is available when project surpassed its spa date.

Not necessarily vped.
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How much and how many time buyer is going to claim before vp? What if developer claim, if they pay lad, will not have cash flow to complete the project, and ask buyer to choose between the two?

Believe buyers should be more concern with loan repayment than receiving lad payment.

IF/before developer resume works, likely to ask buyers to waive the rights to claim lad.


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post Nov 24 2018, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 24 2018, 12:49 PM)
By law and by spa contract, lad can be claimed when spa date due.

How many claim when due, i dont know.

All top developers can afford to pay lah...macam uem ew sime and etc....you think paying lad will bankupt them meh....

Only 3suku developers will negotiate w buyers on lad payout....
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The issue with this project is work is suspended due to shortage of cash flow. If the developer couldn't pay contractors and suppliers, doubt it has loose change to pay lad.

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post Feb 3 2019, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Feb 3 2019, 11:59 AM)
Selayang Spring is the worst as alignment of construction structure of foundation was out if compare to  Selayang Star City
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Does it mean need to demolish? Where were consultant engineer and clerk of work? Inexperienced main contractor?

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post Feb 3 2019, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Feb 3 2019, 12:34 PM)
No ideal.
it is a headache for the new developer KL Northgate to redevelopment might incur huge cost
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Until selayang spring issue is resolved i.e vped, doubt many will have confidence with KL Northgate developer.
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post Feb 8 2019, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(yoonchuan @ Feb 8 2019, 12:43 AM)
Nolah... Im referring to this StarCity project. The Shopping mall i guess is complete about 70percent...now just stopped like that...i think contrator and developer selayang spring and StarCity is different...
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Basically, the starcity developer was greedy and overstretched. With hindsight, this project should have develop in phases.

This place is unlikely to find white knight anytime soon.

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post Feb 11 2019, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(tonychan5667 @ Feb 11 2019, 11:17 AM)
this is mixed development, they still need to figure out how to complete service apartment as well.
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Those sold are buyers/borrowers liability, is the least of developer's worry or concern.

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post Feb 24 2019, 04:23 AM

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QUOTE(hkchan231 @ Feb 23 2019, 07:33 AM)
sad to see the purchaser investment is hold. really lost faith to those developer arround selayang. hope that the government can look on thos issue. it heavly affected the reputation in selangor.
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This is a private venture. What has to do with the state gomen?

QUOTE(lilytf @ Feb 23 2019, 07:14 PM)
The developer said block C will be completed by 2022. Did you get the same message?
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Unless there is work progress on site, do you believe the developer?

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post Apr 2 2019, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(hkchan231 @ Apr 2 2019, 04:48 PM)
anyone know if have progress ? no legal action taken ?
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Who have locus standi to take legal actions?
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post May 10 2019, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(hkchan231 @ May 10 2019, 11:24 AM)
nope.. but they did send a letter mention "they are trying very hard to resume the project"......i think just a simple sale talk
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mean this project is unlikely to resume anytime soon.

QUOTE(hkchan231 @ May 10 2019, 11:36 AM)
Advise from legal firm.... even this project not complete.... the interest stilll need to pay yo bank. otherwise the bank will sue us bankruptcy......

i am not going to buy any property that in not complete now. really lost faith.
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yes, borrower need to service loan interest. if possible, recommend to pare down loan disbursed.

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post May 10 2019, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ May 10 2019, 02:02 PM)
This project is delayed for too long... I am afraid even if it see light at the end if tunnel, you will not getting any lad. Probably some white Knight may comes to rescue however you still need to top up as previous Drawndown already spent.

But all these are better option than abandoned.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 10 2019, 02:03 PM)
Recently there is this usj remix project being "revised'.

Usj remix was similar non hda compliance opis suites sold as resi, so to speak.
Empire cant afford to complete the project. But luckily o think hck whom has project on the same land (i presumed nia....try to remember wat i read before) decided to take over usj remix.

At least the buyers of remix w empire can have a breather...exactly details and condition of the buy over not release. Dunno how the buyers fare.
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Given current magnitude of property overhang, it could take over a decade before white knight will appears. advisable for buyers/borrowers to pare down disbursed loan else accumulating loan interest could be overwhelming.

uuu/bbb have blood on their hands again.


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post May 10 2019, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 10 2019, 02:18 PM)
Court case usuallu is far more complicated and tedious than got white knight or not, want to give free for white knight ot not.
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It will take a few years before receiver is appointed by the court.

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post May 13 2019, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(lilytf @ May 13 2019, 07:36 PM)
How to pare down loan disbursed ?
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Pay more to reduce principle gradually.
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post May 13 2019, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(trust4you @ May 13 2019, 07:49 PM)
how do you tell this to the mark cheras buyer property alrealdy completed around 70-85%?
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Beside bank write off and borrower pay off, what other choice these borrowers have?

QUOTE(gks @ May 13 2019, 07:51 PM)
This is throwing good money to chase bad money...
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Unless bank is charitable to write off the loan, borrower is liable no matter what. Paying unnecessary loan interest is not throwing good money away?

QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 13 2019, 07:57 PM)
Well template is just copy paste.

Technically theory vs practical.
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post May 13 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ May 13 2019, 08:31 PM)
It is still... However it is your obligation... Reducing principal is not your obligation and you can deploy the capital to elsewhere... Somewhere that is more productive.
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Provided you could get better return i.e higher than loan interest incurred from elsewhere.

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post May 13 2019, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ May 13 2019, 08:48 PM)
Dumping cash to abandoned prpejct will give you better return?

That is where the term throwing good money chasing bad money coming from...
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Could ignore incurring loan interest?
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post May 13 2019, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 13 2019, 09:21 PM)
Is there no other investible options than serving 4.5% interest on loan?

I often hear one lady here keep on saying this again n again

Property investment is not the only way to make money

Haiz...i wish the lady could come out now and give some pointers.
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How certain these buyers/borrowers won't loss more or make another mistake?

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post May 14 2019, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 14 2019, 12:30 PM)
the only certainty in life is uncertainty...…………….

you dun know today what will happen.....knock down by car or pick up a gold nugget on your way to work.

but yr solution is 'pair down'......why? why dump good money into settling what is already 'bad money'?

lets just say...this polaris….I owe the bank 300k outstanding....
if I have 300k in my FD, yes I will use it to pay off the loan n save my interest cost bcos my fd will generally yield about 4.2% and my bank interest is 4.5%.

BUT IF you don't have FD or any source of fund available now, why the need to pair down the loan? what is the advantages? I would rather bite my bullet and pay my monthly interest on loan and find another way with my cash (probably not much) and looking at invest in other property or other investible items.

You always said PROPERTY IS NOT THE ONLY INVESTABLE INSTRUCTMENT available. so perhaps its the BESTEST time for you to let the pigeon out of the hat and unveiled your biggest money making machinery here, WILL YOU, PLEASE PLEASE
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If alternative investment doesn't turn out well, borrower/buyer will be hit with double whammy and very few could recover from double blow.

the world is greater than kampung, there are many opportunity outside.

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post Jul 18 2019, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(hkchan231 @ Jul 18 2019, 11:27 AM)
i plan to do this also... there is no other choice as the interest is keep on increase month by month... damn.. it is pain to pay the money for a invisible building.
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As this project is unlikely to complete in next few years, interest payment could only mounting. Those could afford should pair down loan dispersed.

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