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post Jun 26 2013, 08:41 AM, updated 13y ago

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Was wondering whether it's feasible to start a game 'sharing' ring @ LYN for future X360 / Xbone relesaes.

Heres how it works.

It needs mimumum 5 people in the party.

So what happends is that:

New game releases avg. price RM150

The game will be bought and resold, each individual will require a cash output of RM20
Eg:
1st will buy @ RM150, sell it to 2nd @ RM130.
2nd will re-sell to 3rd @ RM110 and so on.

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Now the 5th person can opt. to keep the game @ RM70 purchase point, or resell it back to the 1st Buyer @ RM50.
Basically final holder of the game will cost only RM70 approx. 50% discount from original price.

More people can be incorporated into the party resulting in either the final owner shelling out less to buy the game or reducing the 'time-share- cost.



Rules to establish prior to iniate the 'time-share'
. All in the party must agree on the title to 'time-share'

. Final Owner must be established first. Only the Final Owner can redeem the DLC code as he is paying out the most.

. must ballpark estimate how long it take to finish the game so that the person below the que don't have to wait long
eg: If gonna achivement whoring full 1k tell beforehand.

. All have responsibility to take care the general well being of the physical disc + cover.
No "my dog chewed on it" "i dropped in toilet bowl" etc.


The ultimate goal of this 'time-share' is to
. Just play the game.
. Own the game @ 50% less than retail price without waiting for PA sales or deep discount from second-hand seller.


Or sounds like too much effort and you can't trust anybody @ LYN...

*edited cost table*

This post has been edited by Timemuffin: Jun 27 2013, 10:22 AM
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post Jun 26 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jun 26 2013, 09:23 AM)
If Microsoft stick to their original draconian DRM policy, we can just do the family sharing. So let say each digital game cost RM150, we just need to pay RM15, though there's only one person can play at a time. Oh why...

On topic... I think this is a good idea, but since I always keep what I bought...
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According to my 'masterplan', then you can be opt to be the ultimate holder by paying RM50 more than the other schmucks in the group.


The whole idea is paying RM70 or less for new releases without waiting for Playasia or 2nd hand sellers to deep discount them.

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post Jun 26 2013, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jun 26 2013, 09:29 AM)
What about preorder bonuses/DLC? Do I get to keep it?
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The other people in the group must be honorable not to use the DLC as the designated ultimate holder is establish before the 'purchase chain' is started.

Still boils down to trust.

Then of course comes the question how fast a person in the group can finish the game. If somebody takes 80hrs to complete a 8hrs game then I can see will have drama lol
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post Jun 26 2013, 10:52 AM

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I have calculated the costing for less than 5 ppl in group.

Its goona be

1. 150
2. 100
3. 50

... don't really make sense, as RM50 to 'sewa' the game for cheap cheevos


Not only 'bout trust the other party not to mess up the disc, but the posting cost must be beared individually.


I'm only proposing this plan @ LYN Xbox & Nintendo forum 'cause the population is small enough to cultivate a group that boleh harap.

This post has been edited by Timemuffin: Jun 26 2013, 10:54 AM
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post Jun 26 2013, 11:36 AM

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Anybody want to make the attempt to start the group?

* this is no a scheme I came up with so I can play Deadpool for RM20 *
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post Jun 26 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(wunan @ Jun 26 2013, 11:44 AM)
so who want to be the 1st buyer?
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as the person who proposed for this scheme I will be the first buyer and ultimate holder for the first trial game.
aka - I pay the most in the group.


Other further rules we have to establish

. All in the party must agree on the game to 'time-share' and who becomes 'final owner'
. No whining 'bang bila ko nak habis itu game'
. Postage charges must be sendiri bayar
. Post your GT to put your reputation at stake.
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post Jun 26 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jun 26 2013, 11:58 AM)
Boleh bah kalau kau. Then I'll be the 6th buyer. Should cost me RM20 (+ RM6 for poslaju) right?
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Get 4 more people and a game to agree on than that should be the total cost of your 'time-share'.
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post Jun 26 2013, 12:25 PM

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wah

all confirm meh

Game : ???

1. Timemuffin
2. ???
3. FarCry3r
4. qudeenz360
5. ???
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post Jun 26 2013, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jun 26 2013, 12:30 PM)
There, fixed that for you.
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Wunan & grey tak bagi confirmation pun.
Also nit yet agree what game to share.
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post Jun 26 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(wunan @ Jun 26 2013, 12:52 PM)
should fix maximum 'time-share' duration for this to work.
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'time-sharer' gotta state how long they gonna timeshare


me = 1 week.


Also if anybody profits off from his timesharing it will absolutely destroy the concept.
eg: the last person in the group bought it for RM70 but sell the game @ RM100
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post Jun 26 2013, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jun 26 2013, 01:08 PM)
I don't think we can set a max time when we didn't know if the game is long or short, if the chevos are hard or not, or if it requires time grinding.
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If can ballpark the estimate then ballpark it lor
If the person below your que willing to wait then ok lor
If not just change the position in the que


For me I just play the SP campaign on regular difficulty and than that's it.


I have this urge to see every game out there thats why I own all consoles (currently X360, PS3, WiiU, 3DS, Vita, gaming PC)

To be honest, I can just pirate the PC version for less hassle, but I feel empty inside if I don't get cheevos for finishing a game.

This post has been edited by Timemuffin: Jun 26 2013, 01:16 PM
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post Jun 26 2013, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(wunan @ Jun 26 2013, 01:20 PM)
if there is no max time....if all keep the game for 1 month...kesian
the 5th buyer need to wait almost half a year to get his hand on the game.

currently i rent ps3 game rm40 for one month...
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Thats why still boils down to trust lor.

Everybody in the group must be willing to finish in an acceptable timetable to not let the next person in the que suffer.


Granted the last person in the que gets to own the game @ half the list price.



Hmm
You rent for RM40 per title per month?



This post has been edited by Timemuffin: Jun 26 2013, 01:26 PM
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post Jun 26 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jun 26 2013, 01:22 PM)
So how then?
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Name a title all 5 can agree on than we experiment from there lol

I will initiate the chain once all agree.
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:04 PM

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alamak

thread ini not only sudah mati steam but also mati pucuk.
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post Jun 26 2013, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(qudeenz360 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:39 PM)
jom beli motogp 2013
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lol rclxms.gif

all agree or got other game in mind?



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post Jun 27 2013, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(DanielPodolski @ Jun 27 2013, 09:43 AM)
To be frank with you guys,this is actually not that bad as a plan. Great job, Time Muffin!

How much does a physical disc cost for the Xbox One though?
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my estimate:

for YR13 till Asia official release RM180 (assume RM is strong)

post Asia launch we will see it back to RM150 price range.




I thought this thread sudah mati pucuk laugh.gif


So really... MotoGP as trial run?

This post has been edited by Timemuffin: Jun 27 2013, 10:12 AM
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post Jun 27 2013, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jun 27 2013, 10:49 AM)
I really don't see what game to suggest, but if it's MotoGP then I'll pass. Not keen on playing such game(s) blush.gif
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Ok looking at the release calender, major SP games that was released in the past 3 months


April- Star Trek, Dragon Dogma: DA,

May - Metro LL, Resident Evil: Revelations, Fuse

June - Remember Me, Deadpool, Right to Hell

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post Jun 27 2013, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(wunan @ Jun 27 2013, 12:18 PM)
i vote for RE: revelations
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2 for Relevations.

3 more to the party mau apa?
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post Jun 30 2013, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(braindeath @ Jun 29 2013, 01:40 PM)
this is for 360 or BONE? got any exclusive games or not?

if war theme fps exclusive i wanna join, if exclusive car racing i wanna be the last person, i wanna keep racing games flex.gif  flex.gif
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Pretty much any game to be honest.

.. if we can even get the first trial run to begin lol
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post Jul 1 2013, 08:50 AM

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Anybody still serious for this?

Only Wunan & I agree on RE: Revelations.

Need 3 more to the party.

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