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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V56!, MDM,JDM,CDM,PKM,MCH,SSH,SHY!

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jnick
post Jun 27 2013, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:49 PM)
haha .. Give a break to those newbie d lo .. troll till they sked jo .. lolz
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Give a break....

Let more new people come in....

Then....

Only......


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post Jun 27 2013, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(nncl @ Jun 27 2013, 05:06 PM)
hi guys, cant wait to collect my black lala once reach showroom biggrin.gif
any good poison intro  tongue.gif
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Lol!!!!!

People like u.... Ngam d!!!
U come TT la, sure very fruitful!
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post Jun 27 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(jnick @ Jun 27 2013, 10:50 PM)
Lol!!!!!

People like u.... Ngam d!!!
U come TT la, sure very fruitful!
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already got a conman towards me for some fruits jor.. doh.gif
gonna inject some antibody before join u guys for TT
K3nnYkl82
post Jun 27 2013, 11:24 PM

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OK Idiot sekalian ... I have made the Research on the 4B10 and 4B11 differences .. for idiots whom wanted to do this.. Good news..

The differences is just the Piston and conrod! .. crank shaft is the same..

Attached Image

4B10 | 4B11
Basic diameter mm | 86 | 86 |
Pin hole diameter mm | 21 | 21 |
Overall height mm |52.66 | 50.5 |

4B11 have shorter piston then 4B10

and the conrod ..

Attached Image
4B10 | 4B11
Small end hole diameter (d) mm | 21 | 21 |
Big end hole diameter (D) mm | 51 | 51 |
Centre-to-centre distance (L) mm | 153.55 | 149.25 |


now back to some basic calculation.
4B10 Bore -> 86mm
4B10 Stroke -> 77.4 mm

4B11 Bore -> 86mm
4B11 Stroke -> 86mm


How do we calculate the CC ?

((PI x (Bore / 2) x (Bore / 2) x Stroke ) / 1000 ) x 4

What is PI . 3.142 ... Go google.
the last one we X4 is because it has 4 piston

((3.142 x (86/2) x (86/2) x 77.4 ) / 1000) x 4
= ((3.142 x 43 x 43 x 77.4) /1000) x 4
= (449.659) x 4
= 1798 cc


For 2.0
((3.142 x (86/2) x (86/2) x 77.4) / 1000 ) x 4
= ((3.142 x 43 x 43 x 86 ) / 1000 ) x4
= (499.622) x 4
= 1998 cc


Now look back at the CON ROD I posted
4B10 -> 153.55 mm
4B11 -> 149.25 mm

153.55 - 149.25 mm = 4.3 mm differences
if u put this 4.3 into a JEJARI (sorry I dunno what is call in English) .. in terms of diameter .. 4B11 will be 8.6 mm shorter than 4B10, which makes MORE ROOM for the stroke .

Back to the spec .. 4B10 = 77.4mm stroke ... 4B11 = 86mm stroke
86 - 77.4mm = 8.6mm

So the calculation match .

SUMMARY in layman terms... to upsize 1.8 to 2.0 .. ONLY THE CONROD is SUFFICIENT. But then if you use back the same piston, compression might be too high.

Good luck in exploring laugh.gif




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post Jun 27 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:24 PM)
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153.55 - 149.25 mm = 4.3 mm differences
if u put this 4.3 into a JEJARI (sorry I dunno what is call in English) .. in terms of diameter .. 4B11 will be 8.6 mm shorter than 4B10, which makes MORE ROOM for the stroke .

Back to the spec .. 4B10 = 77.4mm stroke ... 4B11 = 86mm stroke
86 - 77.4mm = 8.6mm

So the calculation match .

SUMMARY in layman terms... to upsize 1.8 to 2.0 .. ONLY THE CONROD is SUFFICIENT. But then if you use back the same piston, compression might be too high.

Good luck in exploring  laugh.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:28 PM)
RADIUS
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yes .. its Radius ...

Look at the 4B10 piston .. no wonder so many complain knocking rclxub.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(nncl @ Jun 27 2013, 11:10 PM)
already got a conman towards me for some fruits jor..  doh.gif
gonna inject some antibody before join u guys for TT
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prevention is better than cure

GOOD LUCK if u choose to go TT tongue.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:43 PM)
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yes .. its Radius ...

Look at the 4B10 piston .. no wonder so many complain knocking  rclxub.gif  doh.gif
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hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Jun 28 2013, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(nncl @ Jun 27 2013, 11:10 PM)
already got a conman towards me for some fruits jor..  doh.gif
gonna inject some antibody before join u guys for TT
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GG ... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(botack @ Jun 27 2013, 10:46 PM)
Me, T630 and Mugi last time went there lepak with the owner because that sorhai T630 wanted to pnp his 4b12... laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Zam from NPF is my friend friend..last monday go there lepak de...according to him,so far only 1 4B12 and 1 4B11T(evox) has send cylinder head to them...next monday go there again to buy tshirt.
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:43 PM)
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yes .. its Radius ...

Look at the 4B10 piston .. no wonder so many complain knocking  rclxub.gif  doh.gif
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Ya man! Fxxking hell knocking non stop vmad.gif vmad.gif

so, lets gb pistons n conrods
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post Jun 28 2013, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(DrJackal @ Jun 28 2013, 12:06 AM)
Ya man! Fxxking hell knocking non stop  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

so, lets gb pistons n conrods
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Look at the picture of the little mountain on top of the piston laugh.gif
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post Jun 28 2013, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 28 2013, 12:08 AM)
Look at the picture of the little mountain on top of the piston  laugh.gif
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if fuel quality is there probably it's a better design ?
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post Jun 28 2013, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(DrJackal @ Jun 28 2013, 12:10 AM)
if fuel quality is there probably it's a better design ?
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yes .. but doesn't suit us ...

We are the CHEAPSKATERS .. lolz
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i wanted to try ron97....but...
yeah... you r right, i'm a cheapskate... LoL
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post Jun 28 2013, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 28 2013, 12:04 AM)
GG ...  rclxms.gif
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lol.. yea feel like going to GG soon hmm.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:43 PM)
thumbup.gif
yes .. its Radius ...

Look at the 4B10 piston .. no wonder so many complain knocking  rclxub.gif  doh.gif
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High comp 4b10 piston with conrod 4b11 will be more kaboom brows.gif

Actually ive done high comp setup at my gen2..
So far so good except that my piston ring needs to change now laugh.gif
Im using campro 1.3 high comp piston with crankshaft and conrod campro 1.6 whistling.gif
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post Jun 28 2013, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(s@ni @ Jun 28 2013, 12:26 AM)
High comp 4b10 piston with conrod 4b11 will be more kaboom brows.gif

Actually ive done high comp setup at my gen2..
So far so good except that my piston ring needs to change now laugh.gif
Im using campro 1.3 high comp piston with crankshaft and conrod campro 1.6 whistling.gif
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whats the compression rate of ur Gen2 now ?
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 28 2013, 12:32 AM)
whats the compression rate of ur Gen2  now ?
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I cant recall or i dont even calculate it

Becoz my fren done it, he said no prob so i just follow laugh.gif

Its a common mods by campro user brows.gif
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QUOTE(iguana_tan @ Jun 27 2013, 05:01 PM)
ya, will do that next time. if really need extra will top up myself.
will spend on KNN drop in filter & cleaning kit, 220 + 70. at SC service 2 times and never see them take out the air filter and blow or clean for me... mad.gif
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Same case with me. Tomorrow only service for the 3rd times, 10k KM.

I wonder they can help me change the KNN filter or not...

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