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davidke20
post Jun 21 2013, 12:35 AM

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sleep.gif aih... everyday need to fix. Just sent in ma car to workshop, then waited 1 hour for Mahihi come fetch me with a broken IAFM+tensioner bearing+power steering pump rosaked GaGa loan from AhWai. I asked why AhWai's car, oh looks like the great dan ngan lou sent for AhWai's to repair doh.gif Late night after dim sum TT, again all 3 GaGa at my low cost flat there also fixing sumore with opened hood. A LBLP MyBi drove by with sympathy kinda looked at us, as if he's saying "Ady told you don't buy GaGa, see everyday need to fix. Even midnight also open hood to fix" sleep.gif Aih... crap car shakehead.gif
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post Jun 21 2013, 07:17 AM

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post Jun 21 2013, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(sahar @ Jun 21 2013, 08:21 AM)
what time? what place?
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i still owe u the thing,tonight can install lar
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post Jun 21 2013, 09:39 AM

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[color]Sri Petalin Casual TT[/color]

Time:9pm onwards
Date:21/6/2013
Avenue:Old Town White Coffee Sri Petaling


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post Jun 21 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jun 21 2013, 09:56 AM)
I heard in some mudah.my seller claim he does a "sunat" for the iafm....

is that advisable? can we take it out and say fix a Pod filter?
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driveability reduced without iafm. 1k-4krpm lag like crab. But then, Mahihi drove until 193km oni drop 2nd bar. Bear in mind my boifren go L-D-L hai rpm WOT all the time. He sei not his car,drive it like he stole it wor! So,without iafm really guding 4 sohigh like my boifren.

To install open pork, jiu no nid disable iafm. Just plonk the filter up.
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post Jun 21 2013, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jun 21 2013, 09:56 AM)
I heard in some mudah.my seller claim he does a "sunat" for the iafm....

is that advisable? can we take it out and say fix a Pod filter?
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driveability reduced without iafm. 1k-4krpm lag like crab. But then, Mahihi drove until 193km oni drop 2nd bar. Bear in mind my boifren go L-D-L hai rpm WOT all the time. He sei not his car,drive it like he stole it wor! So,without iafm really guding 4 sohigh like my boifren.

To install open pork, jiu no nid disable iafm. Just plonk the filter up.
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post Jun 21 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 21 2013, 10:50 AM)
Link? Without the IAFM you're basicallt welcoming back the infamous torque dip in the base Campro engine  hmm.gif
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Disable purge valve actuator by removing valve end,so the ECU will think iafm still functioning. 5minutes job,but u nid to leave ur car there for 5 hours,so they can use 4 hours 55minutes to troubleshoot without your presense. You noe huat aimin? whistling.gif


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post Jun 21 2013, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jun 21 2013, 04:01 PM)
must check this out. but in my understanding MOST cars except those with very high compression rates and meant for racing can use Ron91 and above.

Just check Singapore. They have Ron 92, 95 and 98 on sale. And most of their cars are the latest in the market.

in Thailand, Unleaded Premium is Ron95 and it is expensive like hell.  Gasohol is Ron95. and they have Ron91. Car rental company in Phuket recommended I pump Ron91 only for the Vios I rented last 2 years ago when I was in Phuket.

In America there is stil Ron88 or 89..forgot liao....

My honest opinion, Malaysian drivers have been cheated to use high Ron for nothing.... only because korupland gomen want to increase price they phase out Ron92 and come out with Ron95 with of course immediate price increase! Then feed us with propoganda that Ron97 is premium so all of us pay ridiculous prices for our expensive petrols.
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QUOTE(Wikipedia)
B16B (Type R)
VTEC
Found in:
1997–2000 JDM Civic Type R[EK9]JDM
Displacement: 1,595 cc (97.3 cu in)
Compression: 10.8:1
Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
Stroke: 77.4 mm (3.0 in)
Rod/Stroke ratio: 1.84:1
Rod Length: 142.42 mm (5.6 in)
Power: 185 hp (138 kW) @ 8200 rpm & 118 lb·ft (160 N·m) @ 7500 rpm
Redline: 8400 rpm
Rev-limit: 9000 rpm
Transmission:S4C With Helical LSD (4.4 final drive, dual-synchromesh on 2nd, 3rd and 4th gears)
VTEC engagement @ 6500 rpm
ECU code: PCT
OBD-2B
Note: This engine uses the same block as the Integra Type R (B18C5), which is taller than the B16a block (by approx 17 mm), but with a crank the same stroke as the b16a. It uses longer rods to accommodate for this, which is why the Rod/Stroke ratio is higher than a standard B16.


10.1:1 is consider high compression sleep.gif With this kinda setup, RON95 airfuel already can self ignite when piston reach the top of the block. Hence, Campor sohigh ECU did RETARD the ignition timing to accommodate the ping/detonation. When people tell you they pump RON97 dont get more horse powah is not their fault, cause the ECU can't sense detonation/ping, but also can't be certain if advance ignition timing will cause any harm to the car. In short:

If switch from RON97 to RON95, immediately you'll feel the engine retarded

If switch from RON95 to RON97, probably need a few more tanks before the ECU daring to retune the ignition timing back to normal.

In the end, what RON also can use. Just need to beware of the detonation. RON is an additive to RETARD the ignition point. Higher RON can mean more retarded flash point(also depending on the fuel type), on the otherhand, Natural Gas has a very low flash point, hence it need higher RON to avoid the NGV tank from explosion by the heat under sunlight.
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post Jun 22 2013, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 21 2013, 09:13 PM)
Hi Bro YAB!  notworthy.gif

Tks a meg 4abv clarification!!  thumbup.gif

Btw do Campros 4BLM/FL hv such knock sensors so that the ECUs can adjust the ign timing accordingly?
When lower/higher RON fuel is used?
Or only newer FLXs hv...?

TQVM in adv.  notworthy.gif
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Yes as per mengsuan point out. Can cheat RON by adding after market OCTANE. A bottle usually around RM20, can treat up to 20 gallons(around 75litres), which is 2.5 tanks. When I use, I'll do 3 tanks straight, but with less efficient way, cause I did it with less OCTANE mixture so I can extend the usage to 3 tanks instead of 2.5 tanks.

QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jun 21 2013, 09:21 PM)
i just happenned to pump Rm30 Vpower Racing and topped up with Ron95.

The Rm30 was redemption with Bonuslink points....

Drive as per normal, see if FC km per litre has any improvements?
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jun 21 2013, 09:37 PM)
Yes, has knock sensors.
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Bro, what is the RON rating in NGV? And what's with your drivetrain?

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jun 21 2013, 10:22 PM)
Anyone got good workshop recommendation for suspension/drivetrain?
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He's far, but he's powderful! This dan ngan lou also come visit. At Dengkil

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 22 2013, 12:57 AM)
Another Cinderella TT for me brows.gif

Thanks to GorillaLew, Garybenjamin, Maxwell6635 and and manlet for letting me molest their cars wub.gif

BTW r3apers, I know why you complain my rear seats uncomfortable liao....you didn't lift up the headrest so it kept poking your back laugh.gif

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May I molest PoPi next time? Will take the usual heat at Kesas + MRR2 stretch until Tasik Selatan and back to Sri Petaling? Ayam really curious about your complains between CBT and your current double clutch

QUOTE(kenjilew @ Jun 22 2013, 01:47 AM)
lols...

btw... sorry davidke20 for dragging in front of u... thanks ckdenion for coming and bring the +5hp mod to me ~ thanks manlet and dares let me try their car ~ and thanks to all that come to TT ~ biggrin.gif
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Don't be, for your own good nia. I wish I had not lecture you and let you meet an unfortunate before you learn. However, I think sometimes a MISTAKE is a TOO LATE situation for someone to learn. Sandy place is very dangerous, you wouldn't know when the car will loose traction, let alone the car is not yours. Btw, you have not remind me the thing, as I left it inside the car doh.gif

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jun 22 2013, 09:09 AM)
Good morning all! it is a hazy hazy saturday, thanks to our most considerate, kind hearted and loving indonesian retar..... opps. i mean neighbours.....
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Few things I learnt from my friend in Jakarta when I pay him a visit 2 years ago:
1) Who teach them to do this?
2) Who owns the company that doing this?
3) Who is planting the palm trees at the burnt area?
4) Burning forest can simply means adding natural fertilizers
5) Indo is currently 1 of the major supplier for man made palm oil diesel, namely BIOSOLAR. Again, who are the owners?

They're just following instruction to make a living. Their tauke teach them to do so, and so they did whistling.gif My political view is very shallow nia, so no need to open debate on this. Moreover, it's international political issue that involves 2 countrys, but the consequences (haze from open burning) had to be suffered by the whole world.
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post Jun 22 2013, 09:43 AM

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Take note, got another yellow color EVERCO mid bullet. Not sure whether you want whistling.gif

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post Jun 22 2013, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 22 2013, 10:00 AM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif

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hope can go faster...
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Haiyo! Why the sound so cacat 1? Next time try with "manual" mode can ar? Do the L gear thingy. Btw, yours is from front to back oso mod? Or only the back?
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post Jun 22 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(choonhuen.koh @ Jun 22 2013, 12:06 PM)
Hi Bros, been driving my flx for awhile now, but the throttle lag sometimes is kinda annoying, is it a nature of CVT or is there anything that can be done to improve it.

Plus, i c that the FSB & RSB is sth dat is recommended to be installed, mind asking wht r the major improvements.

TQ so much in advance.
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jun 5 2013, 03:18 PM)
Item(s):3max SAGA BLM/FL/FLX FRONT AND REAR STRUT BAR

Package includes:One 4 points Front Strut Bar and one 3 points Rear strut bar that wont makan ur boot space

Price:Pm me,take both will have discount,tq.

Warranty:1 year warranty on manufacturing defect

Dealing method:COD in 3max factory itself in USJ1 Subang Jaya,Meeting point nearby will be the Esso after mydin,or by postage poslaju,Pls do call me earlier for stock availability,tq.....

Front strut Bar Postage fee is RM 10 for Peninsular Malaysia,Rm 20 for sabah Sarawak
Rear Strut Bar postage fee is RM 10 for Peninsular Malaysia,Rm 20 for Sabah Sarawak

Bulking for car clubs is entertained as well as i have done few bulking in the Proton Saga Club thread itself

Location of seller:Klang Valley

Contact method/details:012-3001933(Kelvin)

Age of item:Brand new

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Item(s) conditions:Perfect

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Review and pictures from davidke20,after 1 year of usage

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Stretch marks everywhere on the 3MAX rear seat brace. Take note that I'm not complaining, but I'm revealing the truth of reinforcement bar's functionality. If you did the reading, you'll know this bar makes my car oversteer. If you know front wheel drive car oversteer can simply mean rear rigidity increased(consider suspension remain the same as before installing bars). I have reduced rear tyre pressure to gain more traction from the rear wheels, and directly imply that my overall traction has been upgraded. These stretch marks are the proof of functionality. The bar does not show any sign of weakness yet, but the painting crack is inevitable as there are still flex on the bar itself. I've heard people said the rear seat panel is so thin and impossible to transfer chassis flex via the bars, and these stretch mark is a lively proof of force transmission.

I have no new review on driving experience, the car is as good as the 1st day I installed the rear seat brace, it's still annoying as the rear part will jump went over speed breaker.There are still the same pros and cons nothing can be hide. You want stock and soft, there you have stock setup kinda cornering feeling. When you have these bars, part of the comfort and your wallet is jeopardized. Peace icon_rolleyes.gif

Review from dares,
I felt the opposite when I installed the bars on my FLX (well except the wallet part). I believe after installing the FSB and RSB, going thru bumps was actually MORE comfortable. Comfortable may not be the right word....the feeling is that you don't feel the rear end bouncing and twisting over the bump, instead it moves as one solid body. The nett effect is that the passengers don't get thrown left and right when going over bumps.

Or maybe the FLX chassis+suspension was not very comfortable like the BLM to begin with unsure.gif

Anyway for all new and old Gaga owners, if you haven't still, I'd consider strut bars to be one of the most essential mod for your car.

more reviews here,

Some photo walkthrough
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry52815637

More sohigh action on the 2nd day, more discovery
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry52824465

Truth of why bars are important
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry53002875

Now with the new Saga Sv,the same design rear strut bar is fitted in as OEM Bar!!!!!so is proven useful!!!!Proton engineers cant be wrong on this!!
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post Jun 22 2013, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Jun 22 2013, 12:36 PM)
hi everyone....I dunno u all have experience this before....my car cant start at 1st...no any sound coming out...then I take out the key and start again...then can d.....
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battery being drraoned isit laugh.gif 280000uf cool.gif
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post Jun 22 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(king_lover23 @ Jun 22 2013, 08:35 PM)
Is it normal for the mtal bar near our exhaust to become rusted?

And I found out my air-con blower near the filter to have some "tikus" noise,
and told by the worker it is the blower 's bearing problem..

is the air con blower cover under warranty?
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Exhaust mounting point usually manual fabricated at production line. That part did not went into zinc coating(galvanizing), therefore it's rusted. Please refer video link below. You can leave it continue to rust, I assured you before that mounting point patah your exhaust already developed a hole and need to be changed.

http://youtu.be/9DzVzp12pbw?t=3m9s

Or, you can go and get a can of touch up paint, may be silver color as long as higher heat tolerance you buy. Get sand paper and sand away the rust, apply a layer of those paint will slow down the rust development.

QUOTE(jsnkok @ Jun 22 2013, 09:39 PM)
after 1 day of driving around with Sachs abs + proride sports spring, it seems that the suspensions like to make mickey mouse noise (squeak) whenever going over humps.. is this normal or the setup above is not suitable ???
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Your modder didn't warn you meh?! So amateur ar sleep.gif You're gonna need this lar
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post Jun 22 2013, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(king_lover23 @ Jun 22 2013, 10:02 PM)
I ady mentioned this issue to SC this morning when service my car...
They jet up my car, and I just look around and saw this..
They claimed it is normal bcox the exhaust is hot and when kena water,
it will become rusted..

ur car got this ? hmm.gif
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More worried on your KOed absorber now whistling.gif
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post Jun 22 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(king_lover23 @ Jun 22 2013, 10:44 PM)
Holy.... i din even notice it...
is it really leaking? any symptom to spot it?  doh.gif
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Obviously it is already leaking, what else do you want? until absorber cabut baru want to change ar whistling.gif No worries lar, very cheap nia rear absorber. For comfort, use back original oil base Abs, around RM80/side. For sport actions, get gas base abs, around RM70/side. Harder ride but konaring dem cun.
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post Jun 22 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(king_lover23 @ Jun 22 2013, 11:35 PM)
My ODO only 5989KM today.. and I went to SC to service my car ...
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Try your luck. It looks like manufacturer defect liao. But if I were in your shoe, I would have just "downgrade" to gas abs ady laugh.gif Anyway, since you're entitled with warranty, please go back and swear to Plotong sei the kar sway like a boat when dribing at haiwei.
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post Jun 23 2013, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(king_lover23 @ Jun 23 2013, 12:21 AM)
just sms my SA.. he said can claim...
I really wan to *** kaw them... but I dunno how to *** ppl...
haiz... 6 months only... ady problems.. doh.gif
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Absorber not made by Plotong doh.gif Perhaps their supplier fucuk them up. It's plotong they're gonna supply, QC no need so thorough lar. Another thing is, absorber oil seal leaking is quite common regardless of brand, it's all luck. So, don't tew your SA nor Plotong. Admit the bad luck and get it change as soon as possible yawn.gif

QUOTE(king_lover23 @ Jun 23 2013, 12:34 AM)
I see... If not by chance I went and check my car underground,
I would not knw my rear absorber is leaking...
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and thx u guys for pointing this out from the pic...
initially I only want to ask about the rusted metal near exhaust pipe only...  blush.gif
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If the exhaust pipe they can change for you, get them change also lar. New exhaust pipe less rubbish inside icon_idea.gif Anyway, even if you get to change, get a layer of paint on it lar. I bet sooner or later it's gonna rust again, unless claim warranty is your habit doh.gif
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post Jun 23 2013, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Carlos_XP @ Jun 23 2013, 04:11 AM)
Hi Guys, long time didn't came up here, i recently saw lots of obd2 bluetooth adapter popping out everywhere, interested to grab one to play around a bit. anyone know which model will work on my 2011 fl?

recently gotten my wheel bearing busted,there goes mah moneh cry.gif
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Mahihi has it
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QUOTE(billy520 @ Jun 23 2013, 12:29 PM)
updates on my steering vibrator issue.
i went to a tyre shop asking for on-wheel. one young guy came out and said not available.  cry.gif
i asked if they know any shop offering it, he go ask the boss. the boss came out saying these machine very RARE in penang but he being friendly offered me help.
he told the young chap bring out a jack jacked up my car front. he started the car, engage 1st gear and press on the pedal. he then asked the young guy continue stepping on the accelerator, hold tight the steering wheel while he go observe my tyre. he asked me to see my tyre too. and to my surprise, my tyre were spinning wobbly... he said that was the cause of steering vibrator. i ask him what was the cause of this he said its the tyre was not properly attached to the rims. i was  rclxub.gif  for 1 year i had those on now only the problem started? initially i do not want to let him continue touching my car as i was aiming for on-wheel balancing but after seeing him do that, i thought give him a chance as i remembered davidke20 saying how to perform DIY on-wheel balancing. since he kinda know what he is doing, i let him. then he then lowered down the car, remove all tyres and again taking the tyres+rim to the off-wheel balancing machine one by one balacing it. not sure why, he removed the tyre from the rim and balance only the rims. then attached back the tyre to the rim.
as i was on lunch time and cannot wait, i cabut on my frens car and return afterwards. total damage was only rm34. then he explained again to me some bla bla which i could hardly understand but in simple term is that he swap all 4 tyres around to get the one with least wobbly-ness to the front...i was hesitating on what he done and if my rm34 was going into the drain but to my surprise when i was speeding jz now to test the "fix" the problem disappear. it was for sometime i was testing it and the problem really disappeared! hats off to that guy! he really know what he is doing! but one problem is...if the best tyre were out to the front now, means the back tyre will be having the problem now right? rear tyre wobbly will me lose control at sometime soon?  doh.gif  rear ass buang perhaps?
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U konar too violently izit laugh.gif
Huat tayar u r on now?

http://youtu.be/YXFSVoVqhYw?t=4m8s


This 1 dun hab whistling.gif
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Iswaga oso dun hab doh.gif
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Neither to Shawie
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GaGa has it laugh.gif
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