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cruzzmz
post Jul 10 2006, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Jul 10 2006, 10:02 PM)
Ermm... this thread is getting a bit outdated.

Anybody mind to do a write up on VoIP in Malaysia.  I would if I could but it would probably take me weeks.  Hehehe...

Anybody???
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well as for now the voip is still new in town but everybody is rushing to provide 1 ... cant tell which provider is the best since the last mile of termination of local pstn will surely goes to TM ... even all the provider is experimenting with their SIP Server smile.gif but surely when TM lower their STD rate then every VOIP & so called "VOIP Provider" will panas hehehe .. as for now all are looking for cheap ATAs or IADs ... quality wise still depending on ur dsl line cos for sure that they,ISP wont put priority on VIOP traffics vs the common HTTP etc traffics ...
well still a long way to go ....
hope that it will improve smile.gif

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post Jul 11 2006, 06:39 PM

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I agree! iTalk from TM is now RM0.15 frox fixed to mobile nationwide (i.e. their e-Voice is at RM0.20). Mobile to mobile is RM0.25. Definitely all the other VoIP providers will have to go lower than TM to ensure their survival.

Out of curiosity, how much is the actual cost of a VoIP call?
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post Jul 12 2006, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Jul 11 2006, 06:39 PM)
Out of curiosity, how much is the actual cost of a VoIP call?
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ehmm that depends on their agreement wz their terminating partner I think ... if they can go lower maybe they got better deal wz the partner smile.gif
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post Jul 12 2006, 01:11 PM

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OMG I really cant beleive it... the tmnet VoIP service (E-voice now known as BB phone is still down for maintenance) oh gosh...
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post Jul 12 2006, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(rattan @ Jul 12 2006, 01:11 PM)
OMG I really cant beleive it... the tmnet VoIP service (E-voice now known as BB phone is still down for maintenance) oh gosh...
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Really??? Luckily I didn't subscribe to it. Maybe they are trying to get everybody to use iTalk!!!

Seriously, their e-Voice service should be much cheaper then their iTalk service. If VoipStunt can offer 300 minutes 'free' a week to fixed line, why can't they?
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post Jul 16 2006, 09:11 PM

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Xybirium : I agree with you... too bad their service is still down :-( no joke...


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post Jul 17 2006, 08:31 PM

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If e-Voice can be offered at 1 sen/min to fixed and 5 sen/min to mobile, I would definitely subscribe to it. As it is now, only a few can beat (by Telekom) the rates from fixed line to mobile but by only 1 sen. Astratel is probably the best from ATA. Globe7 is better but they only offer calls from PC.

All the Malaysian BB phone providers are still at 20 sen/min to mobile. Who in the world will subscribe to them if they are much more expensive (by 5 sen/min) than the i-Talk.

If anybody out there can find a cheaper rate, please let us all know.

rattan - Since you are an expert, maybe you could do an article on VoIP providers in Malaysia. I would if I could but it would probably take weeks of research.

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post Jul 18 2006, 08:50 AM

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voipstunt also 4 cent euro to mobile... It will be a long time until we can see unlimited package for mobile call is malaysia.
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QUOTE(aneip @ Jul 18 2006, 08:50 AM)
voipstunt also 4 cent euro to mobile... It will be a long time until we can see unlimited package for mobile call is malaysia.
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Yea, 4 Euro cents is still about 19 Malaysian sen but to fixed line is "free".
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post Jul 19 2006, 09:53 AM

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yup.. using those 5 hour a week "free" to fixed line.. With 2.50 euro a month i think it worth. Even can use those 2.5 for call to mobile.. Just hoping they last.. This is the 2nd time I topup...
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QUOTE(aneip @ Jul 19 2006, 09:53 AM)
yup.. using those 5 hour a week "free" to fixed line.. With 2.50 euro a month i think it worth. Even can use those 2.5 for call to mobile.. Just hoping they last.. This is the 2nd time I topup...
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Good for you! Are you using softphone or ATA? I don't really like to use the softphone but my Linksys PAP2 doesn't seem to like my Aztech 600EW or vice versa. Maybe there are still some configuration settings which I have not done properly.

PS - I don't really call anybody on fixed line because my phonebook only has less than 5 fixed line numbers!!!
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Xybirium : try enabling port forwarding and also make sure you have enabled DHCP. If that is done and still got problem, them try resetting your pap2 while its connected to the router... do let me know if u need any help mate... ill do a write up on VoIP soon...

and yeah BBPhone ( www.bbphone.com.my ) is still down for maintenance it seems, its been a month now... total BBS (Big Bull Sh*t) TMNUT is a real hero

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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Jul 19 2006, 07:26 PM)
Good for you!  Are you using softphone or ATA?  I don't really like to use the softphone but my Linksys PAP2 doesn't seem to like my Aztech 600EW or vice versa.  Maybe there are still some configuration settings which I have not done properly.

PS - I don't really call anybody on fixed line because my phonebook only has less than 5 fixed line numbers!!!
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using some crap ATA (taiwan one).. Before this using SPA 3000 both are find... Not sure about PAP2. What is ur problem? Cannot register? No audio? 1 way audio?

Usually you don't need to port forward. Just enable stun server on PAP..
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QUOTE(rattan @ Jul 20 2006, 03:33 PM)
Xybirium : try enabling port forwarding and also make sure you have enabled DHCP. If that is done and still got problem, them try resetting your pap2 while its connected to the router... do let me know if u need any help mate... ill do a write up on VoIP soon...

and yeah BBPhone ( www.bbphone.com.my ) is still down for maintenance it seems, its been a month now... total BBS (Big Bull Sh*t) TMNUT is a real hero

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Done all that and more! Maybe it's because I upgraded my 600EW firmware from 43.53.1 to 66.68.2. It works for the first hour or so. After that when I try to call my mobile to check, my mobile rings but there is no sound from the ATA phone.

By the way, RedTone has reduced their rates for VoIP calls. Calls to fixed lines are at RM0.10 per min and to mobile are at RM0.15. Why is Jaring and TMNet still so expensive? Maybe their quality is better that RedTone? Anyone using RedTone VoIP? I haven't pinged their VoIP website yet to check the latency.

Anyway, using iTalk at RM0.12 to fixed line and RM0.15 is much better since I don't need any extra equipment or even broadband.
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seem a nat problem.. Make sure you not using both outbound proxy and stun server at the same time. . outbound proxy seem more a safe option to go but it increase latency time and also will got some problem for incoming call.. But for call out it the safest option to try..
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just found another voip offer that I saw. It said free call to malaysia land line and mobile, but limited to active member and GUI client only. Don't know can use for voip phone adaptor or not?

http://www.gizmoproject.com/learnmore-allcallsfree.html

Anybody try yet?
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post Jul 21 2006, 05:36 PM

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It seem their FAQ support SIP device.. But the I coudnt understand how to get the free call.. Maybe someone else can explain..
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Gizmo call malaysia is not free

Malaysia landline 0.027 mobile 0.055 us cts
when you register get .25 cts free
I use pap2 to call moblie for free last for 5 minutes
How to config sip goto this url

http://support.gizmoproject.com/index.php?...nical%3C%2Fa%3E

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QUOTE(dinomy @ Jul 21 2006, 10:35 PM)
Gizmo call malaysia is not free

Malaysia landline 0.027 mobile 0.055 us cts
when you register get .25 cts free
I use pap2 to call moblie for free last for 5 minutes
How to config sip goto this url

http://support.gizmoproject.com/index.php?...nical%3C%2Fa%3E
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well actually, it is free IF the person u r calling is also an active gizmo project user and has entered his or her phone numbers in their profile. i have tried using their softphone client to call a few of my friends' mobile and the call clarity were excellent, aside from the noticeable lag. but then again maybe the lag was due to my connection (access speed to international sites are slow these past few days, dunno why. but locally hosted sites load really fast)
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post Jul 22 2006, 12:56 PM

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Just try out yesterday.. The quality lower than voipstunt in term of lag.. Dunno whether there got multiple server coz voipstunt got multiple one and I check out each one of them and pickup the best one.

Call mobile phone and it really free.. Just need to register 2 client put the mobile in and play around with 2 client.. Like calling each other to get the active status.. Then after a few call, trying to call mobile number and it works.. Talk about 1 hour, hehe.. no dc.. just lagging and it still acceptable.. What I dont understand their echo test it really good.. Almost no lagging and i using jaring wireless which 1st hop to jaring usually 100+ms compare to wired one where usually around 40+ms to 1st hop.

BTW the call to mobile will be forwarded using 03xxx no meaning it fixed line.. Dunno how long this service will last... But as long as it free I will be using it.. biggrin.gif

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