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post May 6 2006, 01:39 AM, updated 20y ago

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guys/gurls plz help me...

my gf had this problem for about 1 year on and off but now its is beocming worse and her exams are coming plz help me..

we went to a doctor and he gave this med for like 2 months to take.. is 3 kinds of tablets to be taken together (suppose to cure) but only today start ... after eating that tablets still stomach pain...

last time she use to eat those white packet thingy u tear open and press it out wan to line the perut.......

people out there plz help me ya.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post May 6 2006, 01:43 AM

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sorry to hear that..... sad.gif
if i am not mistaken, gastric cannot be cure...

maybe can drink some to nourish our stomuch

correct if i am wrong.... sweat.gif
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post May 6 2006, 01:46 AM

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1. As you wake up in the morning before brushing teeth, drink four glasses of water each of 160 ml.

2. Brush and clean the mouth but do not eat or drink anything for 45 minutes.

3. After 45 minutes you may eat and drink as normal.

4. After 15 minutes of breakfast, lunch and dinner do not eat or drink anything for two hours.

5. Those who are old or sick and are unable to drink four glasses of water at the beginning may commence by taking little water and gradulayy increase it to four glasses per day.

6. The above method of treatment will cure diseases of the sick and others can enjoy a healthy life.

The following list gives the number of days of treatment required to cure main diseases:

1. High Blood Pressure 30 days
2. Gastric 10 days
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4. Constipation 10 days
5. Cancer 180 days
6. TB 90 days

Arthritis patients should follow the above treatment for only 3 days in the first week to be followed by daily treatment.

This treatment meth od has no side effects, however at the commencement of treatment you may have to urinate a few times.

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gastric is permanent since the damage has been done.
To avoid discomfort, she must have 3 meals at the right time. like not eating breakfast at 12...or eating lunch at 4....nothing much can be done except to eat regularly and get back to normal.

I too have gastric a long time ago.
I suffer from very bad stomachache for 2 whole years which hits me every now and then. especially in the morning where the pain was excruciating and it last like 10 minutes. I got used to the pain till i can ignore the pain if it comes...

Went to the doc and did an endoscope. Gave me a pill as medication but didn't help so i didn't bother with it.. As lnog as i have my 3 meals a day..everything is fine.
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post May 6 2006, 01:57 AM

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hmm thanks .. it could be because i bad bf,, never feed her in time><
her meals are not V regular.. every morning she wakes up she complain that she is hungry V hungry and need to eat somethign fast....

i tink its cause by meals and odd time.. how to fix this i know it cant be cure but seeing her like that makes me heart pain
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and to add on with all that,always drink milk.
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post May 6 2006, 02:12 AM

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post May 6 2006, 02:55 AM

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give her a good fark.
after that, ask her drink the milk you pruduce.

lol.jkjk


haha

just ask her drink more milk, and take food on time.
if gastric for long time, then you can prepare her funeral di, no joking cos once the gastric acid make a hole on her stomach intestine then gg, no cure.
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post May 6 2006, 04:03 AM

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QUOTE(ello @ May 6 2006, 01:57 AM)
hmm thanks .. it could be because i bad bf,, never feed her in time><
her meals are not V regular.. every morning she wakes up she complain that she is hungry V hungry and need to eat somethign fast....

i tink its cause by meals and odd time.. how to fix this i know it cant  be cure but seeing her like that makes me heart pain
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Make sure she has her regular meals at the right time and follow it for a few weeks and she will notice the difference.. DO NOT SKIP any meal. When it is the time to eat. EAT and not wait till she don't feel like eating anymore. By then the pain will be eating her alive.

Best to drink milk for breakfast for a few weeks if she is not lactose intolerant.
Hope this helps. Be a good BF and allow her to eat when she needs to.
If she complains that she is hungry during odd hours. Do not allow her to have a full meal. Let her have a snack or 2 so that her stomach will have something to digest on. But not a full meal. Give her the will power to control her hunger.

All the best to you both. I've suffered stomach discomfort for far too long and i know how she feels.
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post May 6 2006, 01:06 PM

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Wah... today only start medicine expect cure straight away ah? How can wan...

The medicine is probally something to reduce the acid in the stomach and antibiotics. Wait lah a bit..... There is probalkly some inflammation in her stomach so have to wait till it is cure.
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post May 6 2006, 01:20 PM

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Actel, the pill to reduce acid in the stomach but that's only for temporary relief.

Nothing gets fixed in a day when it comes to human body...
heh

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post May 6 2006, 02:07 PM

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she is not lactose intolerant but then when she drinks milk in the morning she feels like vomiting.. i know but i am scared... haiz.. thks thks for all your advise.. will try 1 by 1 ...

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my gf have the same problem and what i do is slice potatoes and put it into a tupperware with water and ask her to drink that instead of normal water when she's at home
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y potato???
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post May 6 2006, 02:42 PM

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potato are alkali based, which neutralises the acidic gastric
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take antacids maybe even after food.. help in indigestion and reduce acidic content..

and avoid paracetamol (panadol) and aspirin.. those worsen up stomach
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did the doc prescribe her with "zingtek" (not sure correct spelling)??
i think it should help alot...last time hav gastric...also go thru hell...
always go toilet coz watery stool and no appetite.....take soya bean and 100 plus often...hhahaha.....hav more fruits also.....but no pineapple or orange or lemon........

just my 2sen ...
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hmm thanks a lot for all of your advise ...

lately after she eats she feels that there is a lot of air and start to burp and feel like vomiting... any advise sry guys
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post May 7 2006, 04:46 PM

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Its quite common to hv that as side effect of the medication. Its nothing to worry about. If cannot tahan, can try charcoal tablet
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QUOTE(isaac_lin @ May 7 2006, 05:46 PM)
Its quite common to hv that as side effect of the medication. Its nothing to worry about. If cannot tahan, can try charcoal tablet
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yup tat is side effect of the medicines to adjust back the stomach content.. will be fine sooner or later... can try charcoal tablet or clarinase
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post May 7 2006, 06:00 PM

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Drink alot of milk..that will help
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post May 9 2006, 08:32 PM

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Actually the best advice is to go see a doc.. really.. traditional medication might help.. but it doesnt cure.. if she is having these gastric pain for a long time there may be an ulcer in her stomach or a bacteria 'helicobater pylori' which reduces the gastric mucous which protects the stomach.. so best bet for total cure? go see a doc.. a trusted gp.. you'll be given either antacids or a drug that causes your stomach to secrete less acid which may be either ranitidine or omeprazole.. but of course dont simply go get from pharmacist.. tongue.gif its dangerous to get medication before getting a diagnosis from your doc.. hope this helps..

oh yeah milk may sometimes irritate the stomach when she is having these gastric pains..

on another note.. panadol is ok when she is having gastric coz panadol doesnt coz your stomach to increase acid.. but aspirin does.. smile.gif

oh n do mention the burp n vomitting feeling when you go see a doc.. ok? smile.gif

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post May 10 2006, 01:04 AM

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hey just a note. panadol and other western medicines are actually very harmful to the body. studies have shown that a panadol pill actually takes 5 years to fully disintegrate. so imagine la, we msians, each time we are having here pain, there pain, pop panadol.

the answer is, dont take panadol if possible, if can try to tahan.

how to avoid? change your lifestyle. exercise. dont smoke and drink. eat lots of vege and fruits. and take food supplement, the correct one, one that is in liquid form for BEST absorption. pills, capsules take very long time to absorb.

i have many friends who have had health problems like gastric, migraine, insomnia, all when they change their lifestyle and started taking this brand of food supplement from Germany, FitLine, their illness were almost gone.
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wonder u ppl experienced gastric problem before? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(ello @ May 6 2006, 01:39 AM)
guys/gurls plz help me...

my gf had this problem for about 1 year on and off but now its is beocming worse and her exams are coming plz help me..

we went to a doctor and he gave this med for like 2 months to take.. is 3 kinds of tablets to be taken together (suppose to cure) but only today start ... after eating that tablets still stomach pain...

last time she use to eat those white packet thingy u tear open and press it out wan to line the perut.......

people out there plz help me ya..  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Ya Maalox is the creamy thiny in the packet. No cure I think.But reducing stress helps.
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QUOTE(ello @ May 6 2006, 01:39 AM)
guys/gurls plz help me...

my gf had this problem for about 1 year on and off but now its is beocming worse and her exams are coming plz help me..

we went to a doctor and he gave this med for like 2 months to take.. is 3 kinds of tablets to be taken together (suppose to cure) but only today start ... after eating that tablets still stomach pain...

last time she use to eat those white packet thingy u tear open and press it out wan to line the perut.......

people out there plz help me ya..  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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may try some health food..gv her body more nutrition..n slowly she will been improve by herself...but 1 thing must attention..normally if the health food is really good..when jus start taking health food..it might have some reaction..like what sickness she have now or ever had in the past..the reaction will come out..got to bare it around 7 or 10 days..but after tat..she can feel slowly improve le.. tongue.gif
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post May 10 2006, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(livelife @ May 10 2006, 01:04 AM)
hey just a note. panadol and other western medicines are actually very harmful to the body. studies have shown that a panadol pill actually takes 5 years to fully disintegrate. so imagine la, we msians, each time we are having here pain, there pain, pop panadol.

the answer is, dont take panadol if possible, if can try to tahan.

how to avoid? change your lifestyle. exercise. dont smoke and drink. eat lots of vege and fruits. and take food supplement, the correct one, one that is in liquid form for BEST absorption. pills, capsules take very long time to absorb.
sorry bout this but i would really like to know where u get this info on studies that panadol takes 5 years to ermm fully disintegrate? or is it something that you are saying based on wat ppl say? if it is a real study do you know the actual percentage of it? or who is actually doing the study? if you say dont take panadol then wat would you do if the pain was so severe that you cannot 'tahan' ?

of course lifestyle changes is a must in any type of illness.. n for gastric case is actually to eat 3 meals a day, no snacks in between n of course try not to take a heavy supper before sleep... food supplement are good but like the word says.. its food SUPPLEMENT.. not treatment.. so its just supplement to your daily diet

QUOTE(livelife @ May 10 2006, 01:04 AM)

i have many friends who have had health problems like gastric, migraine, insomnia, all when they change their lifestyle and started taking this brand of food supplement from Germany, FitLine, their illness were almost gone.
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on another note i would like to ask you something on this.. which i find unreliable.. you said that many friends of yours with health problems take this food supplement n get better.. so i would like to ask you that do you know how many ppl that actually take that food supplement n dont recover?
this is a common misunderstanding when especially sales person trying to sell their traditional medicine.. they'll say alot of ppl get cured.. but they dont say how many dont get cured.. for eg. out of 500 ppl 20 got cured.. the rest didnt.. so 20 is a lot of ppl... but compare it with 480 ppl who dont.. is it still helpful?

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QUOTE(What61 @ May 10 2006, 01:49 PM)
sorry bout this but i would really like to know where u get this info on studies that panadol takes 5 years to ermm fully disintegrate? or is it something that you are saying based on wat ppl say? if it is a real study do you know the actual percentage of it? or who is actually doing the study? if you say dont take panadol then wat would you do if the pain was so severe that you cannot 'tahan' ?

of course lifestyle changes is a must in any type of illness.. n for gastric case is actually to eat 3 meals a day, no snacks in between n of course try not to take a heavy supper before sleep... food supplement are good but like the word says.. its food SUPPLEMENT.. not treatment.. so its just supplement to your daily diet
on another note i would like to ask you something on this.. which i find unreliable.. you said that many friends of yours with health problems take this food supplement n get better.. so i would like to ask you that do you know how many ppl that actually take that food supplement n dont recover?
this is a common misunderstanding when especially sales person trying to sell their traditional medicine.. they'll say alot of ppl get cured.. but they dont say how many dont get cured.. for eg. out of 500 ppl 20 got cured.. the rest didnt.. so 20 is a lot of ppl... but compare it with 480 ppl who dont.. is it still helpful?
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why donn't give health food a try??is it better then cann't cure at all??at least there is some %% can be improve..since she already suffer for long time!!!!

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i've had bad case of gastric many many years back. i can understand the pain. i tried many types of medicine but didnt help much, mostly just to ease the pain temporary.
after few years of painful gastric cases i got really fed up and began looking into the reason why i got it in the first place - i dont eat for long long hours, when i eat must eat cili and spicy food and when i drink must drink cold or ice drinks. (try observe her eating habits, it might help)
here's wat i did and become gastric pain free. stop drinkin ice water or any cold drink for 3 months!!(the longer the better). eat smaller portion of meal hourly(4 or 5 hours). dont drink cow milk (soya milk is ok). dont drink teh ais!!! dont eat taugeh, dont eat banana.
i sincerely hope u can try this for 3 months. smile.gif if this method cant help u a single bit. plz put up a thread titled Titan_GigAs is a Bloody Liar!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(What61 @ May 10 2006, 01:49 PM)
sorry bout this but i would really like to know where u get this info on studies that panadol takes 5 years to ermm fully disintegrate? or is it something that you are saying based on wat ppl say? if it is a real study do you know the actual percentage of it? or who is actually doing the study? if you say dont take panadol then wat would you do if the pain was so severe that you cannot 'tahan' ?

of course lifestyle changes is a must in any type of illness.. n for gastric case is actually to eat 3 meals a day, no snacks in between n of course try not to take a heavy supper before sleep... food supplement are good but like the word says.. its food SUPPLEMENT.. not treatment.. so its just supplement to your daily diet
on another note i would like to ask you something on this.. which i find unreliable.. you said that many friends of yours with health problems take this food supplement n get better.. so i would like to ask you that do you know how many ppl that actually take that food supplement n dont recover?
this is a common misunderstanding when especially sales person trying to sell their traditional medicine.. they'll say alot of ppl get cured.. but they dont say how many dont get cured.. for eg. out of 500 ppl 20 got cured.. the rest didnt.. so 20 is a lot of ppl... but compare it with 480 ppl who dont.. is it still helpful?
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there was a doctor in US who actually did cleansing of this guy's colon. what he found in the 'mass' are not fully disintegrated pills, capsules, and of course, all the rubbish he has been eating over the years. i dont have proof of the study, but it does make sense that pills take a long time to disintegrate. just take panadol, drop into water and see how long does it fully dissolve, like when you add salt to water, you dont see anything anymore cos it dissolves well.

i agree that food supplement is just SUPPLEMENT. we are supposed to eat a healthy diet and supplement our diet with vitamins cos the food that we eat these days are low in nutrition, compared to our grandparents' days. why is it so common to hear that ppl have cancer these days, compared to 50 years ago? its our diet. last time, our grandparents plant vege without chemicals, chicken take a few mths to be fully grown. now, everything is fast and big. how? chemicals la. so when there are chemicals or anything synthetic, definitely the nutrition content in the food that we eat will be affected.

about ppl not recovering after taking food supplement, maybe its cos the problem is too serious. health problems take years to develop and of cos it takes some time for the body to heal on its own. drugs can do it fast cos it addresses the symptoms not the root. tats why there is relapse sometimes. food supplements go to the root and thus takes longer time to take effect. i'm not saying that food supplement can CURE serious ailments like cancer. i'm just saying food supplement can help to relieve semi healthy conditions like migraine, gastric, constipation, etc.

as to the numbers, for it to be reliable you have to have a proper study. what i'm sharing is what i hear from friends, not something taken off from some study. hope that clears the air.


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QUOTE(mayyen @ May 10 2006, 02:06 PM)
why donn't give health food a try??is it better then cann't cure at all??at least there is some %% can be improve..since she already suffer for long time!!!!
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i agree. since western medicine doesnt work, why not try health food? why suffer when there is possibility for a cure?
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if really cant tahan the pain, no choice but to take drugs lor..
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QUOTE(Titan_GigAs @ May 10 2006, 02:10 PM)
i've had bad case of gastric many many years back. i can understand the pain. i tried many types of medicine but didnt help much, mostly just to ease the pain temporary.
after few years of painful gastric cases i got really fed up and began looking into the reason why i got it in the first place - i dont eat for long long hours, when i eat must eat cili and spicy food and when i drink must drink cold or ice drinks. (try observe her eating habits, it might help)
here's wat i did and become gastric pain free. stop drinkin ice water or any cold drink for 3 months!!(the longer the better). eat smaller portion of meal hourly(4 or 5 hours). dont drink cow milk (soya milk is ok). dont drink teh ais!!! dont eat taugeh, dont eat banana. 
i sincerely hope u can try this for 3 months.  smile.gif if this method cant help u a single bit. plz put up a thread titled Titan_GigAs is a Bloody Liar!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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I am with you notworthy.gif
That is what I do and recover from gastric prob. which has started since I am 8.
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QUOTE(ello @ May 6 2006, 01:39 AM)
guys/gurls plz help me...

my gf had this problem for about 1 year on and off but now its is beocming worse and her exams are coming plz help me..

we went to a doctor and he gave this med for like 2 months to take.. is 3 kinds of tablets to be taken together (suppose to cure) but only today start ... after eating that tablets still stomach pain...

last time she use to eat those white packet thingy u tear open and press it out wan to line the perut.......

people out there plz help me ya..  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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i do have gastric sometimes.. and the worst it i got it at midnight....

Try look for someone that doing this MLM e.Excel ... and get the Digeston .. it's make of natural product... main element is ginger.. and it's really a great help ...

it's just bout rm70+ per botal of 100 capsules.... : )

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QUOTE(livelife @ May 10 2006, 02:46 PM)
there was a doctor in US who actually did cleansing of this guy's colon. what he found in the 'mass' are not fully disintegrated pills, capsules, and of course, all the rubbish he has been eating over the years. i dont have proof of the study, but it does make sense that pills take a long time to disintegrate. just take panadol, drop into water and see how long does it fully dissolve, like when you add salt to water, you dont see anything anymore cos it dissolves well.

about ppl not recovering after taking food supplement, maybe its cos the problem is too serious. health problems take years to develop and of cos it takes some time for the body to heal on its own. drugs can do it fast cos it addresses the symptoms not the root. tats why there is relapse sometimes. food supplements go to the root and thus takes longer time to take effect. i'm not saying that food supplement can CURE serious ailments like cancer. i'm just saying food supplement can help to relieve semi healthy conditions like migraine, gastric, constipation, etc.

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well of course panadol or any pill wont dissolve in water because its just water.. if you add panadol in the gastric acid and see wat will happen? i'm sure it'll dissolve.. all medicine are made with account to our body's physiology.. but in case of this doctor in US.. the patient there might be a strong possibility that he may already be having disease of the colon or any other part in the intestinal tract if not i dont think the doc would actually go clean his colon in the first place..

and if you actually read up bout how gastric ulcer or duodenal ulcer develop you'll be surprise to find that a bacteria is actually causing it.. in that case you'll need antibiotics for it to get better, of course in this case its mild so nothing to worry about... but its always better to be safe than sorry.. n dont drag any illness too long.. y suffer in pain n not take drugs to relieve it?

just my 2cents smile.gif
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QUOTE(livelife @ May 10 2006, 02:47 PM)
i agree. since western medicine doesnt work, why not try health food? why suffer when there is possibility for a cure?
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hi livelife..thx for supporting..
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QUOTE(livelife @ May 10 2006, 02:47 PM)
i agree. since western medicine doesnt work, why not try health food? why suffer when there is possibility for a cure?
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like i said health food are just supplements how to cure? that i wonder... whistling.gif
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haiyo.... why dun jaga herself good good??
Now look ...wat had happen
drink more water... try to avoid eating spicy food and
most important... have a magnesium tablet's by her side
See doctor
Dun play play oh.... my friends uncle had died bec of that...
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die because of that.. omg....

she eat good food ler.. everyday dinner got soup "tan" then a lot more.. some times the meal time run about 1 hour+- ....
today it got worse... just to ask y taugeh?? GUYS really thanks for ya help hope this thead get pinned for people out there with gastric
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dude i dunno how to explain to u why taugeh..i dunno bout her but when i eat taugeh my stomach gets upset n bloated, n i'll vomit ... but trust me (ekhmm my method also backed by Fu Yong wub.gif ) i recovered without any expensive medication and watsoever drugs. most important for gastric ppl just dont take cold drinks!!!
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QUOTE(ello @ May 11 2006, 01:09 AM)
die because of that.. omg....
yeah blueskies uncle probably died of something called peritonitis following the rupture of the stomach due to an ulcer in the stomach.. its a dangerous condition thats y i was saying to get it treated n not wait too long.. i'm not disagreeing with health food but i find that it sometimes give ppl a false sense of security..

(for those who would like to know, peritonitis is an inflammation of the intestine covering which would lead to shock n subsequently death)
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QUOTE(What61 @ May 10 2006, 03:22 PM)
well of course panadol or any pill wont dissolve in water because its just water.. if you add panadol in the gastric acid and see wat will happen? i'm sure it'll dissolve.. all medicine are made with account to our body's physiology.. but in case of this doctor in US.. the patient there might be a strong possibility that he may already be having disease of the colon or any other part in the intestinal tract if not i dont think the doc would actually go clean his colon in the first place..

and if you actually read up bout how gastric ulcer or duodenal ulcer develop you'll be surprise to find that a bacteria is actually causing it.. in that case you'll need antibiotics for it to get better, of course in this case its mild so nothing to worry about... but its always better to be safe than sorry.. n dont drag any illness too long..  y suffer in pain n not take drugs to relieve it?

just my 2cents smile.gif
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Yep what you say is right smile.gif Panadol doesn't need 5 years to disintegrate, it it supposed to provide a fast relieve to pain so the half life and pharmacokinetics are definately shorter than 5 years as claimed by one of the member here.
Btw, antacids should work in mild gastric and indigestion...if it doesn't work try Zantac or any other acid suprresent drug but please speak to the doctor or pharmacist before you start on any medication !

 

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