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This post has been edited by Ricgatebecko: Oct 4 2021, 05:11 PM

FIRST! Thanks Ric

nice...v3

wow.. thanks Ric

Support support!

Huarghhh..

v3 at last!

This is Barb!!!!!!!!

Many thanks to Ricgatebecko.
Finally V3 for the barb.

GG ric!!

This post has been edited by fe3doe: Jun 13 2013, 03:38 PM

Nice one !!

long overdue post! GJ

any advise on skill set up for a non ww barb? i kinda not into ww....hope can heard some latest effective skill build.....thanks all sifu barb

barb, u r going DOWN. D-O-W-N down!!!!

wait...

There's Rend+Hota build

fast cowithgun pls roll one then we're talkin

I missed you. Don't afk la accept my join request we go have some fun

ciss...

thanks ric, nice v3!

bro Sabenarian, can advise on my barb setup? i think my skillset might need to change a bit:
http://d3up.com/b/751940

currently MP10 is doable, but sometimes need to change to stormshield if elites is too horrible, without ToC = gg.

also prefer to maintain full IK set because it looks cool

key for WW build are CC and IAS... you onli have 2 slots IAS (too little on Ammy). you need at least 2.5 aps, more dps, more healing too.. try get this aps by adding ias on MH ring and glove.. full IK will limit your DPS unless you spend lot of money for decent IK piece... your EHP on low side too (OP-CA might help).
my cheap barb in EU not die in MP10 (onli play MP10 for testing, normally play MP8-9 due to low tDPS ). you no love for mace/axe?EF hater?

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Jun 13 2013, 04:32 PM

many thks ric for v3 barb .support! too

lai i wan see barb op 600k dps. ..for new generation. ..LOL

if i roll a barb, i ll be so awesome that i'll hate myself!!!

LOL

My barb should become P100 (27plvls still left to achieve) by the time Barbarian Discussion reaches v4.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Jun 13 2013, 04:41 PM

i shall raise again... soon... (watching Attack on Titan...)

LOL. ..dont always monk v barb to compare tat is not same situation. ..try to roll barb one lai hehe. ....

yah, i notice my APS is very low too, only 1.9. with IK set the only possible IAS is coming from IK glove. if i can get trifec IK glove, i will lose some vit from current glove.

with this setup, ww macam no energy. when ToC is up, less prob. but in some situation, when all the thrash mobs are cleared and i need to 1v1 with the remaining elite, i couldn't keep ToC with ww, so gg. will try OP-CA and see if there is improvement or not. thanks

for the mace&axe, yes, i'm big EF hater so i prefer 2 rare sword over axe;

if thing not working, perhaps i change my main damage skill to rend-HoTa? does rend-HoTa rely on APS as well?

no problem if you want to keep your sword , btw your chest need more vit (180+) also your pants. Remember glove is dps slot, EHP on glove is bonus onli.. about HoTA aps, im not really sure, need ask HoTA barb, i think you still need good aps to perma wotb easily..

Based on my own personal experience, my barb can perma-HoTA using 2h ls skorn @1.72aps & -5 reduction cost of HoTA SoJ. Have not tried -4 reduction cost of HoTA SoJ so I can't give any confirmation about it.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Jun 13 2013, 05:36 PM

Someone needs to pin this up!!!!!!!!

Nothing significant between -4 or -5 Fury cost for HOTA from SOJ. Taking 100 stock Max fury into calculations for example:

100 max fury / 16 fury per HOTA (by using -4 fury from SOJ) = 6.25
100 max fury / 15 fury per HOTA (by using -5 fury from SOJ) = 6.66

Both -4 or -5 SOJ will average out around 6 HOTA frm max fury. As long as you're getting -4/-5 for HOTA SOJ, you're good and should be able to spam HOTA and maintain WOTB relatively easy. That being said, aspd for OH best to be at 2.8 breakpoint and critical chance should be above 60% after WOTB disregarding follower's buff if you're running WWHOTA build. Goodluck and have fun spamming hammer all you HOTA barbs

Just want you to know that no matter what happens, i'll remain as the old hater. You can count on that. XD

well there is... a non sprint build i have been experimenting... unfortunately not that efficient la..

Good to know, appreciate your time & effort keep reading and posting in here old sport

This post has been edited by Ricgatebecko: Jun 14 2013, 12:20 AM

quit d3 8 months ago, now come back and roll barba, currently lvl 36, feel that now starting hard to lvl

really?

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Jun 14 2013, 12:55 AM

yeah was just reading it too.. bummer

dont know, maybe i using ww too early without more dmg.

you are lvl36 right? not Paragon Level 36. if yes your can try using Mighty weapon in Main Hand.. search with open soket and put big ruby gem you can afford.. this will manage your fury (with weapon master passive)..you still not unlock Into the fray (also not too effective in low lvl bcos you normally low on CC).. you also can use Rend, nice damage dealer, hit and run skill...

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Jun 14 2013, 07:15 AM

WoTB -Thrive on Chaos is unlocked at L60 to ensure perma-WoTB. In the meantime, use HoTA and the highest quality Ruby gem on a socketed LoH weapon should suffice. I usually use a reduce level high dps socketed ls weapon to perform power leveling.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Jun 14 2013, 08:55 AM

Ricgatebecko Thanks for the formula and appreciate it.

Max fury = 100 + 20 (Animosity) + 15 (SoJ) = 135 ;based on my skill preferential of Animosity over Ruthless!

Therefore;
-5 fury from HoTA SoJ = 135/15 = 9
-4 fury from HoTA SoJ = 135/16 = 8.4375

Conclusion; ~11% difference in effectiveness.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Jun 14 2013, 09:10 AM

bros...started playing my barb recently.... http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/bububoo...5/hero/20738553 ..how do u guys keep the fury up?...sometime i gotta hantam the monster to recharge

This post has been edited by ilikehandphones: Jun 14 2013, 09:19 AM

yes normal lvl36 xD, thanks for suggestion, will look into it.

LOH use on lvl 36? never try that before. but i'll try it also xD

BTW i got 1b of gold, waiting to use when lvl 60

U meet that 2.5 breakpoint, you normally can WW single boss w/o dry fury..maybe need practice, timing your BR and Sprint wisely.. if possible lure more trash mobs..I know some affix is annoying like shielding, walller..

U need some LoH so you can run like a boss.. life start at lvl60 Inferno .. so do whatever u need to reach lvl60 so you can use all gears..nice budget btw..

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Jun 14 2013, 09:47 AM

My wwOP + HoTA barb ...check it out!

How to play? as follows;-
1. Press Battle Rage -Into the Fray
2. Press Sprint -Run Like the Wind
3. Whirlwind by right click mouse continuously and don't let it go until HoTA phase (see #6)
4. Press WoTB -Thrive on Chaos
5. Spam #1 & #2 repeatedly when fury orb is full and whenever Overpower -Crushing Advance is available, do feel free to press it.
6. HoTA when just 2 enemies are still remaining.
7. Stand on desecrator, swim in poison pool, zap by arcane beam, tickle with electrified, engage Reflect Damage, hots up within the fire trails and etc will fill up the fury orb to finish off 1 enemy left only.

Hope the above action tips help.

Note: Got to highlight that this particular wwOP + HoTA is not the cookie cutter build and has been personalised to enrich my own playing experiences.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Jun 14 2013, 10:46 AM

ok i'll try that later when after work. BTW 1b now is like 1m, all the items sell in AH is billions haha

use AH wisely and patient, secret for success in D3 ... some items, you can get at vendor price is good enough to carry you to MP9

ic i didnt realize the breakpoint is with wotb..is it possible to do more damage with lower breakpoint?...will be crafting amulet now and than...if i am not lucky with trifecta but got a good amulet with cc and cd and base stats is it still viable?
i gotta practice more...it plays differently than my monk
will try it out when i get the hang of the barb..ini class susah to play and snacking at the same time

thanks bro, will try to increase vit from my chest & shoulder.

I've made a few additional notes and are highlighted in blue!

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Jun 14 2013, 10:46 AM

Dance on multiple arcane=priceless
Spam of the day~~😝

as a DTWW barb, make sure you meet at least that 2.5 BP with wotb.. You skill almost similar with mine http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sabenar...6/hero/26987726 if you find elites take too long to kill, u in situation when your dps too high for trash mobs (u need trash mobs for fury or brawler) but too low for elites.. in this situation SoJ might help, Soj will drop your dps against trash but increase dps against elites.. so basically, when trash all died, elites also left little health.. make sure you play at correct MP level too, I suggest MP8 for your current setup.. This at least true for DTWW barb with <200k dps (need check your tDPS using D3rawr.com), if you high dps or using WWHoTA or any hybrid build, result might be different..

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Jun 14 2013, 10:34 AM

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There are Gear that gives u Green Stats (DPS increase) when you are in normal unbuff mode, but becomes Red Stats (Decrease) while in full buff WoTB mode. you can experiment this with D3up...example.. an item might gives u +3k Dps (green) increase in unbuff mode, but after you activate your full buff (WoTB, BR Overpower & etc) , it becomes -600 Dps (red). so if your play style is running perma WoTB, u are actually buying downgrade and not upgrade...

give it a consideration by comparing the item you are buying while in full active Buff mode (WoTB, B.Rage, Overpower...etc)..try D3up..or any similar calculator

tks bro...looking at ur gear...if it eventually comes down to it..i guess all i need to do is to swap out my ik helm for a non crit mempo to reach the breakpoint..loaded up my barb on d3rawr ... tDPS: 611008, versus elite is tDPS: 629338

tks for the tip bro.. quite gear barb ... but fun at the same time...

1 thing to bear in mind b4 investing HUGE amount of gold to achieve current BP for DTWW in order to maintain perma-zerk:
The soon to be nerfed WotB-ToC
Most likely the proc coefficient of Tornados from RltW will be affected therefore increasing the 2.5BP to a higher figure.
Even if they tweak the ToC itself will result in increase of current BP.

DTWW is a huge investment, not super huge but if you're looking at long term then it will cost, for non EF users, you a need 4 gears with 9AS to hit 2.5bp and with 0.25 aps EF, 9,9,8,8 will set you up for 2.5BP and to top that off, high stats + 9%AS will make the items almost at premium. So if you're really looking into hitting that BP, don't make purchases that gives you a small boost, try to get a significant upgrade if you have gold to spare. 2nd, people always buy EF then wonder why they're not hitting BP or getting 10 ticks buffed. There's a big difference between 0.23,0.24,0.25APS EF's. Each speed will determine how much AS you will need in your gear to hit certain BP's so make sure you understand how it works before purchasing.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Jun 14 2013, 12:41 PM

Noobie here, what is DTWW?

hope this help

--- General ---


OS - Open Socket (Has Sockets on items)
LL - Life Leech (affix bonus X% Damage is converted to life)
LS - Life Steal (quite the same as LL)
LoH - Life on Hit
LpSS - Life per Spirit Spent (Monks only)
LpS - Life per Second (Liferegeneration)
Thorns - Used in the "Damage to Attacker" Affix
CC% - Critical Chance
CD% - Critical Damage
iAS - Increases Attack Speed (which increases your actual attacks per second, while weapons can have increased attack speed, they will buff their own attack speed and not your chars attacks per second)
GG Item - Used for naming good items (is usually used in pvp games like StarCraft or Dota which means Good Game) [Sidenote: this could also mean good gear or godly gear if you want to tell someone that he/she has nice gear]
GFG - Means good f*ckin game
BiS - Best in Slot (this is used for items that could be the best item of their type, e. g. you post "BiS Amu" which means it's one hell of an amulet)
PVP - Players versus Player (Game Mode alot of people are waiting for, you fight other Players instead of Monsters)
PVE - Player versus Enviroment (Game Mode that refers to when the Player is fighting computer controlled enemies)
SC - SoftCore (Normal Game Mode)
HC - Hardcore (Game Mode, when you die, your character and it's items are lost forever)
MP? - Monster Power (? can be any number from 0-10)
APS - Attacks per Second (How often your character can attack per second)
DPS - Damage per Second (Your average damage dealt per second)
EHP - Effective Health Points (This number is calculated by using your Armor, Resistances, Health and other damage reducing stats. Often used in external sites.)
EDPS - Effective DPS
+ - Often used when farming for Keys/Organs and said item dropped
e - Used when encountering an Elite Pack
g - Used when encountering a Goblin
QQ - Refered to people complaining which actually looks like they would be whining (e.g. stop QQ)
Int - Intelligence (Stat)
Dex - Dexterity (Stat)
Str - Strength (Stat)
Vit - Vitality (Stat)
AR - All Resistance
CCR - Crowd Control Reduction (used for the "Reduced time frozen" affixes)
RD - Reflect Damage (Affix on Elite Packs)
Procs - a term that refers a skill, item, or other effect that is activated automatically, usually on some percentage chance. An effect such as "2% chance of knockback" could be said to have a 2% chance of proc'ing.
Procs are mostly commonly seen in Diablo III when active or passive skills trigger an effect with every critical hit, such as the Wizard's Critical Mass passive skill. [thx to kwwk87]

--- General Chat ---


LFG - Looking for Group
WTB - Want to Buy (posted by people looking for specific items)
WTS - Want to Sell (posted by people that are trying to sell items)
WTT - Want to Trade (this is used when people don't want gold for their items but rather a different item)
ISO - In Search of (afaik means the same as WTB, people looking for specific gear)
PC - Price Check (this is used by people being ingame, they want to know if the item they post is worth something and if possible how much it is worth) [Sidenote: there are always people that post the vendor value of items as an answer, they think it's funny... darn u ppl]
Trifecta - Items with (commonly) the most valuable affixes (CC, CD, iAS)


--- Character/Class Specific ---


DH - Demon Hunter
WD - Witch Doctor
Wiz - Wizard
Barb - Barbarian
CM - Critical Mass (Wizard Passive)
SSS - Seven Sided Strike (Monk Active)
FoT - Fist of Thunder (Monk Primary)
WoL - Wave of Light (Monk Active)
WW - Whirlwind (Barb Active)
RLTW - Sprint with Run Like The Wind Rune (Barb Active)
DTWW - Double WW OR Dual Wield (Whirlwind combined with Sprint + Run Like The Win) [corrected by yuhhaur]
OWE - One with everything (Monk Passive)
HoTa - Hammer of the Ancients (Barb Active)
WotB - Wraith of the Berserker(Barb Active)
EQ - Earthquake (Barb Active)
ToC - Vault with Trail of Cinders Rune (Demonhunter Active)
NT - Elemental Arrow with Nether Tentacles Rune (Demonhunter Active)
TR - Tempest Rush (Monk Skill primarily used for farming)
DW - Dual Wield (Dual Wield means using 2 1h Weapons) [corrected by yuhhaur]

--- Item Specific ---


EF - Echoing Fury (Legendary 1 Handed Mace)
WKL - Won Khim Lau (Legendary Fist Weapon)
IK - Immortal King (Set for Barb)
Zuni - Zunimassa(Set for Int-Chars)
BoA - Bind On Account
Legs - Legendries
--- Area Specific ---


VotA - Vault of the Assassin (This is a dungeon in act 2, desolate sands. It contains alot of elites. People are often using this dungeon for farming Leorics Signet. I personally use this one for keyfarming, VotA -> Oasis -> rejoin game)

CoTA - Crypt Of The Ancients [thx to waklu]

thanks jeffseaw

This post has been edited by dreaming: Jun 14 2013, 01:55 PM

Fixed for WoTB -Wrath of The Berserker

I deem it's important enough and added the Diablo III acronym on the first post for future reference.

And list of barbies.

The Diablo III acronym was discussed in Barb discussion thread 1st and not everything came from Monk discussion thread so it's important.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Jun 14 2013, 02:26 PM

I've been considering and thinking that as a possibilities, if all fellow barb concur then we can have a list of barbs in LYN on the first post. For those who's interested and support our own LYN barb's name list / BattleTag, kindly PM me your LYN username and D3 BattleTag so I can add you into the list. Thank you~

LYN username = MOBAJOBG
D3 BattleTag = MOBAjobg#6966
Build = wwOP + HoTA

Thanks in advance!

Note: PM already and posted also.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Jun 14 2013, 02:35 PM

Yeap, we need the name list of barbs.

Add me,
User Name = ALeUNe
Btag = ALeUNe#6127

noted

LyN : Deckard Cain
Battletag : Electroclash#6469

LYN barb's name list / BattleTag

HaRuaN.X / HaRuaN#1681

Thx Ric..

LyN : sifekangel
Battletag : Aiken#1503

LYN username = fe3doe
D3 BattleTag = fe3doe#6358
Build = OWE

Acronym, namelist, BattleTag and description added on the first post, all fellow barb remember to PM me your LYN id and BattleTag instead of posting here to keep this thread clean for discussion. TQ~

This post has been edited by Ricgatebecko: Jun 14 2013, 03:04 PM

lai old member FROM LYN

LYN NICKNAME: present me
D3 BATTLETAG: vicson#6535 US SERVER
BUILD:multiple

LYN: yuhhaur
D3 Battletag: yuhhaur#1278 US Server
Build: anything mp0 capable at the moment. Will probably look for upgrade.



dreaming DTWW = Double Tornado Whirl Wind.

This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Jun 14 2013, 04:54 PM

thanks bro.
come, we play barb together

This post has been edited by dreaming: Jun 14 2013, 05:01 PM

Forgot add build...

Build : DTWWHOTA-RUBBERBAND

Lyn nick: alphaz

btag: Prime#6672

cheers Ric

All member's name and BattleTag updated thus far. Barbarian's item Hall of Fame added on the first post too for motivation and viewing pleasure. Thanks all~

This post has been edited by Ricgatebecko: Jun 14 2013, 07:43 PM

A for effort.

Nice job Ric

Really really nice work Ric. Respect!

wow.. a++ for effort bro... prouding to habe 3 ob my items listed there hehe

Could you add me to barb list?
D3 BATTLETAG: metz#1383
BUILD: Multiple.. [RLTW/WW/Hota @ RLTW/WW/Rend @ Hota/Rend(uber)]

Nice work RIC! Keep it up!

mine faheem#1459

budget barb here T_T

guys...just want to ask, currently the trend for barbarian still is crafting eq and wwt/hota around?

wwt/hota sure is the main trend going here bro

old man like me still stick to old build, DTWW

i'm trying out sword and board

anyone crafted massive chest armor for barb ? show us tks

I try so many timed di.. serious man.. so susah wor.. I think Ric has the best roll so far. did you?

my top 2 so far with under 100 DE spend. , but still need to try more

1st one i think ok lar.. res a bit low but still can go.. 2nd one.. no AR but still good try, mine all kena dam rojak stat... DH thing oso masuk.. dam man. so random. I think if you get a beauty, sure tapau the best IK armor. Imagine 2nd one with 70+ AR then armor somemore.. fuh...

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Jun 17 2013, 12:16 AM

saw a very strange ww barb playing pub yesterday...using tyrael might..no ik...settle mobs fast also.

Didn't read this earlier, just read it this morning in my office, macam biasa can't excess the site from office..heh.

D3 Developers: Gold sinks will keep being added. Items might eventually be upgradeable, becoming non-tradeable in the process.

Link: http://diablo.somepage.com/news/1570-d3-de...me-nontradeable

linking it here..later meeting boring..can read it on my phone..haha

This post has been edited by HaRuaN.X: Jun 17 2013, 09:12 AM