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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2013, Thailand 0 Liverpool 3- Couts, Aspas, SG

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Duke Red
post Jul 27 2013, 08:54 AM

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Reminiscing. 3-0 down at half-time and did our fans give up? No they didnt. Instead they belted out one of the most haunting renditions of YNWA ever to spur one of the greatest ever comebacks ever in sports history. The 12th man was surely the man-of-the-match that day.

Johan Cruyff exclaimed that it "sent shivers down his spine". Maradona mentioned that he had never seen a club so connected with its fans and on this day, Liverpool became his English club.

What did I take away from this? From that day, I made it a point never to turn the telly off before a game was over, to never give up and to always believe for fan power is a real thing.

YNWA.



I was in Hartamas that night with 2000 other fans. It must have been about 4am and my head was buried in my hands as the lads trooped off the pitch at halftime. A mate of mine put his hand on my shoulder and said, "macha, we'll come back. I feel it". Little did I realise he would be right. As the lads lined up to take their spot kicks, my friends and I stood in unison, hands on shoulders and my mate said, "we're gonna win it". When Dudek saved from Shevchenko, we burst into tears of happiness and all around me I saw strangers become friends.

That night led to me getting my first LFC tattoo, as it did many of my mates. That night truly made me fan of Liverpool fans. Unwavering was their support. Strong was their belief and the players responded.

In 2007 my mates and I organised our own viewing party. We pooled our resources together and got ourselves a projector, screen and we printed a giant banner. We brought with us our own scarves and flags and we managed to negotiate with the bar owner to open for us Though we lost in Athens that day, no one left as the final whistle blew. Everyone stayed back to sing YNWA and to watch the lads receive their runners-up medals. WE stayed behind to applaud AC Milan and they went to receive the trophy as did thousand of other Liverpool fans in Athens that day. As we were about to leave, this car pulled up and 4 Liverpool fans took out their flags and started chanting, "Liverpool". We lost the game that night but we won many admirers with our unrivaled support.

To kopities at Anfield every week, as well as the travelling Kop, I only have to say that you have my utmost admiration. That even when the team loses you find the strength to sing YNWA even if you have to do it with your fist clenched in defiance. This is what makes us different and it's an identity we can ill afford to lose. I cringe at the thought that this may be a dying tradition. How many of us today would have sang YNWA being 3-0 down? Only we know the answer.

YNWA. Mighty Reds - Loud and Proud.

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Wonder if there is truth in this. That rag was quoted as the source.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...-sale-350m.html

Personally, I am skeptical. So much work has been put into securing sponsorship deals in recent times its hard to imagine they'd pull the plug so soon. After all there were reports of him wanting to sell the club stretching back to 2011. http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/2011/04/b...ngland_joh.html

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I was never really bothered by big signings. What are big signings anyway? Most big names we signed only became household names after a season or two with the team. I mean how many of us heard of Xabi Alonso, Pepe Reina, Djibril Cisse, Sami Hyypia or Patrik Berger before they signed for us? Who expected the likes of Mascherano, Didi Hamann, Daniel Agger or Steve Finnan to make the sort of impact they did? Could be it was only me who was ignorant but I certainly didnt think any of them were marquee signings.

Who is to say that Aspas won't be a hit? He's already scored 2 pre-season goals. Luis Alberto may not be an accomplished player yet but he is highly rated. Kolo Toure may not be the player he was 5 seasons ago but his experience at the back will be invaluable. Simon Mignolet is one of the most highly rated young goalkeepers in the Premiership and was voted by many as keeper of the season last year.

Yes it would be nice to have a Ballon d'or candidate in our midst but let's face it. Without Champions League football, it's a pipe dream, what more with the World Cup looming. Players are looking for visibility and playing in Europe's top club competition will do their chances a world of good.
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jul 27 2013, 07:04 PM)
We need a marque signing because we want to push to title...sorry.all the player u have mentioned never won us A PL title..another one, a marque signing not necessary a Ballon d'or candidate  biggrin.gif
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I kinda got that since we haven't won the title for over 2 decades.

Ok so what is your definition of a marquee signing? I imagine Mkhitaryan falls into that category but have you even heard of him before this season? In any case, it was an obvious exaggeration when I said "Ballon d'or" candidate but I guess it wasn't obvious enough.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jul 27 2013, 09:25 PM)
Am I hearding this right?

Xabi Alonso, Patrick Berger, Cisse, Hamann, Mascherano, Daniel Agger, Finnan were not marquee signings????

Alonso is highly rated in Spain and a key player with Sociedad before he joined us.

Berger was an established Czech Republic player who made great impact in Euro 96 with Poborsky

Cisse was top scorer in French Ligue before he joined us

Hamann was an established German DM and a key player for his national team

So does Mascherano, established player for Argentina and made captain. West Ham fans was in 7th heaven when they heard the monster was joining them.

Agger is highly rated in Denmark and a key player of the Danish team

I don't rate FInnan as a marquee  signing but he served Liverpool well and was great with Fulham before he joined us.
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Yes you heard me right although you obviously didn't get the whole message.

My question was how many had even heard of them before they signed for us, with the exception of Hamann, Masch and Finnan? I certainly didn't expect the impact they would go on to make on the team but maybe you did. Martin Skrtel was an international as were Christian Poulsen, Stephan Henchoz, Vladimir Smicer, Milan Baros, etc. Ok so Poulsen had already passed his sell date by then. So when talking about a marquee signing, is it in hindsight? You mentioned Countinho and Sturridge earlier. They turned out good but would you have considered them marquee signings before that? Again, ignorance but I personally never heard a of Coutinho before we were linked to him. Does this mean that if Aspas bags 30 goals next season, he should be considered a marquee signing? That would be in hindsight though.

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You're more than welcomed to give us your two cents bro. If I take Hyypia as an example, he was already an established defender in Holland and for the Finnish national team but I doubt anyone would have considered him a marquee signing when we bought him. I'm just wondering what the definition of marquee signing is because I see a degree of inconsistency.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jul 27 2013, 10:24 PM)
Plus investing heavily and buying expensive players are statement of intent, according to some fans. biggrin.gif

It raises team morale, builds believe. tongue.gif
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Like anyone else I'd like to sign an established player or two. Someone who performs consistently at club or international level. However a statement of intent would be signing someone who would make the first team anywhere he goes. Shows you want to mix it up with the big boys.

I read many favourable posts when we were linked to Papadopoulos but the lad is still only 21 with limited experience at international level. Could he be considered a marquee signing because I never heard of him? I've not heard of Toby Alderweireld before being linked with him either. Would he be considered one as well?
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Good to read constructive input. Err wait..
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jul 28 2013, 11:32 PM)
Shocking. Idiot fans.

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This is truly appalling and I'm both embarrassed and disgusted. If they were in Bukit Jalil last year I would have lynched them myself.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jul 29 2013, 10:16 AM)
I was disturbed by the great grammatical error. The sentence was full of mistakes that I actually took sometime to fully understand its meaning. LOL biggrin.gif

At least compose the sentence correctly if they wanna hate.  doh.gif
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The grammatical errors does little to hide the malice behind the message. Stupid pricks should know better especiall since Hillsborough is close to the hearts of Liverpool fans. You can't cure stupid.
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post Jul 29 2013, 10:27 AM

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If Aspas keeps up his scoring rate during the season, maybe it would be said that we did make a marquee signing in years to come.

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