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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V132, Everyone Huat!

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gark
post Jun 14 2013, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 14 2013, 10:20 AM)
Look for cash rich co with a PE of 3, sure win laugh.gif
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That one cigar butt investor... last time also got do. Ok also.. but don't choose those tipu china shoe company... laugh.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 14 2013, 10:20 AM)
PEG = P/E Growth?

Don't really understand that, can explain? notworthy.gif
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My PEG = PE / (Growth% + div%) tongue.gif

A bit different from standard peg... that why call value-growth haha and minus off net cash on hand for PE calculation.

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post Jun 14 2013, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 14 2013, 10:23 AM)
U mean all PE 3 tipu, besides China made ones  laugh.gif
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Non china PE 3 ok lar... but if the PE is not consistent/one off then not ok also...
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post Jun 14 2013, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(cadmus @ Jun 14 2013, 10:25 AM)
FTSE Group and Bursa Malaysia Bhd announced that MISC Bhd and
SapuraKencana Petroleum Bhd will replace Bumi Armada Bhd and
YTL Power International Bhd in the FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI. Bursa
Malaysia said the replacement follows the semi-annual review of the FTSE
Bursa Malaysia Index Series yesterday. (BT)

http://research.cimb.com/index.php?ch=5013...c=56404&bb=file

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Armada will be out d.wonder whether any effect to its share price bo.
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Last time KLCC prop out of index, straight drop 20%, perhaps this time got bargains....
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post Jun 14 2013, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 14 2013, 10:28 AM)
Why put MISC in  hmm.gif
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Belong to petronas... EPF support kow kow.. index go up .. look pretty.

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post Jun 14 2013, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 14 2013, 10:38 AM)
With this constant revising of stocks inside the index, aren't they engineering the index nicely?
Lousy stocks like YTL Power kena kicked out. tongue.gif

How to expect big kabooooon from the index? tongue.gif

Also why bother watching the index like a hawk?
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No i don't see index one.. i see individual stock..

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post Jun 14 2013, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 14 2013, 10:47 AM)
Growth company might be impacted by large debts and currency exchange loss as well.

Whereas cash rich company may shine with Fed Ben QE winding down.
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True also.. so that's why still hold some apek value funds.. laugh.gif

Need a good mix of all three elements, value, dividend and growth
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 14 2013, 10:48 AM)
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See la., you cannot master me here and there one.
The other day, I still remember telling you Look Seven is worth a shot at 295.
See if you follow you got half feet in Holland road. tongue.gif
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hahaha.. you betul2 master...lucky didn't buy cause already up... tongue.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 14 2013, 11:03 AM)
Why do you subtract net cash from earning in computing PE?

BTW, what is the formula for net cash? Cash & Cash Equivalents - Total Liabilities?
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Cash is already what you have when you buy the stock.. so should not factor into company valuation. So higher cash companies, have lower 'real' PE. Think about it....

Net cash = cash at hand - all liabilities

Lets say...

Company share is RM 1.00
EPS is RM 0.10
But the company has net cash of RM 0.20

So the net cash 'RM 0.20' is more or less belongs to you when you buy the stock... when you evaluate the PE, you evaluate the business, not including the cash. wink.gif

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post Jun 14 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 14 2013, 04:11 PM)
Suspiciously, many stocks currently ngam ngam stay at the immediate support area. Magicians very geng.  tongue.gif
Even HSI also.  icon_idea.gif
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Stay too long at support = kaboom! soon. laugh.gif
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post Jun 15 2013, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 15 2013, 10:58 AM)
I goreng in my wok, then i throw to your wok.
Then you goreng in your wok, and throw to another fella wok..

Like this lo  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Haha why not make lowyat goreng team.. i think we collectively T+3 trading limit got few million gua... tongue.gif
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post Jun 21 2013, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 20 2013, 02:02 PM)
Better ask Gark  hmm.gif
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Most listed plantations already ceased slash and burn due to RSPO roundtable... it is the smaller planter who does that, and not only for palm oil but also for rice farming & other farming.

BTW I am on vacation so no trading for me... tongue.gif and also no haze... tongue.gif only sunshine and beautiful people... drool.gif

leaving the portfolio on autopilot... so will report back next week... laugh.gif

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post Jun 21 2013, 10:58 PM

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Wah apa ini.. i on vacation, suddenly receive info lots of my counters went limit down... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif . My portfolio shows high 5 digit loss in 1 day.. hahahaha! tongue.gif

If these prices are still available on Monday, time to unload all my elephant guns + 300% margin... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Jun 21 2013, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 21 2013, 11:05 PM)
IF......  tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Today I saw my portfolio.. got a shock of my life... kah kah.. then look see look see.. hmmm brows.gif All those limit down all my counters,.... except a few blush.gif

If got.. then hoseh loh. tongue.gif But 1000 of others will also line up for it... laugh.gif

Also will put limit down order queues to see can get any more durian boh...

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post Jun 21 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 21 2013, 11:36 PM)
If your 5 digit loss in a day is <10% still ok, but if more than really  shakehead.gif
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Of course more than 10% lar... most of my stocks went limit down today. tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2013, 10:59 AM

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Emerging markets are cracking due to $3.9 trillion funds are unwinding due to higher interest rate in US. So we might get crisis prices for emerging market without the crisis. rolleyes.gif

Standby for the roller coaster ride. tongue.gif

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-20/e...currencies.html
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post Jun 24 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 24 2013, 12:29 PM)
i wan more blood!!  drool.gif
btw, my recent purchased on HK stocks on paper loss of around 10% already.  sweat.gif
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Whee HKEX going to break 20k... time to pile in... laugh.gif

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post Jun 24 2013, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 24 2013, 11:00 AM)
I hitchhiked 1 month too early on GEM stocks sad.gif
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Well most GEM is at 52 weeks low... time to hitchhike more...


The carry trade unwinding is going to snowball soon... drool.gif especially on high dividend counters

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post Jun 24 2013, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 24 2013, 01:30 PM)
yeah!  icon_idea.gif
so you think it's about time to add some china stocks?
i just wondering will market rebound as they said will “appropriately fine-tune” the liquidity.  hmm.gif
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China SSE is also going to break 2000 points... going in as well. Then after that every 100 points down. tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 24 2013, 01:31 PM)
Sudah drop below 20K ma
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Yep... you going in? tongue.gif

Or stay sideline first? laugh.gif

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