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yuhhaur
post Jun 6 2013, 09:04 AM

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Not uploading the field of misery part? tongue.gif

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post Jun 6 2013, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jun 6 2013, 08:57 AM)
killing faster is not the only factor now.

do note that higher MP has more Bonus item; MP8 = 71%, MP10 = 100%. i farm MP8 whenever i want to feel like having 400k DPS (becoz mobs HP is 50% of MP10)... but less drops, i mean rare, despite killing faster. MP10, you see rare everywhere... everywhere...

also in my experience legendary number drops in mp10 about the same but i get better quality legs and green. may be due to higher MF cap in mp10...
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but you get twice the killing speed and thus higher chance? Oh, I don't really pick up rare items so maybe that's why. I'm hoping to land more DE and legendary so yeah

Anyway, i'll give a 10 based on what you shared. Thanks!

oh btw, monks are best class to farm for DE. Hands down best class. TR + Bell = GG
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post Jun 6 2013, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jun 6 2013, 02:08 AM)
For those of you who farms on mp8-10, I think is helpful to share your average time taken to kill an elite pack.

List out the worst possible affixes for you and the time taken and also for the easiest ones. I think it provides the community with a way to gauge whether they should proceed to that MP or not.

I believe everyone wants to down an elite ASAP so this might help.

I'm particularly interested at the eDPS of monks and barbs. This is not some epeen contest but I just want to know where I stand. Some say 250k and above CM SNS wiz is sick but I don't feel that powerful.

so if you could, do share your time.

p/s: I repeat this is not an epeen contest.
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as a DTWW barbs, waller elites is annoying most, followed by TP, fast affix.. combine with xtra health, Sheilding, Naturally TP to underground like Scavenger/ Burrow leaper in Act I.. if melee type elites, will take less than 10s mostly.
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post Jun 6 2013, 09:40 AM

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most strange elite afix i encounter is one knockback u far far away then pull u back again rinse and repeat with all sort of pool below their feet and with lotsa arcane beam , i tink suddenly i feel i became a ball for them to play around lol blink.gif blink.gif
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post Jun 6 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(huoshenfeng124 @ Jun 6 2013, 09:40 AM)
most strange elite afix i encounter is one knockback u far far away then pull u back again rinse and repeat with all sort of pool below their feet and with lotsa arcane beam , i tink suddenly i feel i became a ball for them to play around lol  blink.gif  blink.gif
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knockback + vortex + plague/molten/descrator/arcane .. add horde to it = GG biggrin.gif lolz
thats why WotB-ToC is so OP tongue.gif

I usually farm mp10 IF the party member consist of players from my friend list (easier to get a good/balanced party with dps to match)
Rarely do solo runs nowadays, when i dont hv friends to party with i will start an mp8 game, get 5 nv then open game to public.
As most of my toons are arnd 200k dps with mid-range tier gears ... anything below 30-45s to kill e pack is acceptable to me.

Act 1 Route:
Festering Woods (for nv stack) > Weeping Hollow > Fields of Misery ... (if i feel like pushing my luck after some good amount of legs drop) > Halls of Agony 1-3 (including kill Butcher) > Whismey

Act 2 Route:
VotA > Dahgur Oasis

My fav for short run is just Dahgur Oasis .. save checkpoint in Forgotten Ruins (usually can get 3 nv in here) then get 2 more in Oasis .... the invi snake packs are giving awesome xp. I prefer Oasis as compared to FoM bcos for me its much "safer" (no bull charging, no tree spitting poison pods)

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samuraislash
post Jun 6 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jun 6 2013, 10:04 AM)
Not uploading the field of misery part? tongue.gif
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which 1? standing in havoc poison gas or the lag? XD


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QUOTE(Gecko @ Jun 6 2013, 10:02 AM)
(no bull charging, no tree spitting poison pods)
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FoT and Bell those bull is thumbup.gif
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post Jun 6 2013, 10:08 AM

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Have to keep on remembering myself the sequence:
1. cut the trees
2. slaughter the bulls
3. deal with the elites
4. etc...
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post Jun 6 2013, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 6 2013, 10:05 AM)
FoT and Bell those bull is  thumbup.gif
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for some of my toonz the bull is annoying mad.gif eg. :
DH channeling Rapid Fire .. suddenly get charged from bull ... worse case scenario is next charge will kill my DH .. even if i survive need to refill hatred n disc to start channeling again.
WD channeling Bats .. same story as DH biggrin.gif

for my other toonz np at all .. my cm wiz can tele>freeze .. and my barb can just spin/hota them to death biggrin.gif lolz

my monk is coming soon .. so i prolly use ur suggestion of FoT+Bell .. or maybe TR+Bell them hahaha.

yuhhaur
those are same priority list as mine biggrin.gif tree 1st then bull then e packs

thats why i prefer Dahgur Oasis .. less stressful tongue.gif

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post Jun 6 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jun 6 2013, 10:08 AM)
Have to keep on remembering myself the sequence:
1. cut the trees
2. slaughter the bulls
3. deal with the elites
4. etc...
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+1, always kill em first before they can spam poison..
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post Jun 6 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jun 6 2013, 10:08 AM)
Have to keep on remembering myself the sequence:
1. cut the trees
2. slaughter the bulls
3. deal with the elites
4. etc...
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i aim tree first also..that dam flower so painful..

die die mati mati i go atatck the dam tree first hahahah
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post Jun 6 2013, 10:58 AM

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yuhhaur very syiok lure half map. me like CM wiz without freeze.
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post Jun 6 2013, 11:42 AM

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haha yea, in coop, team members will shout : trees! kill the trees! biggrin.gif


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post Jun 6 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(dolceping @ Jun 6 2013, 11:42 AM)
haha yea, in coop, team members will shout : trees! kill the trees! biggrin.gif
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yea. especially in public..no time to type. all 3 players aim elites 1st.

I'm the only ribena killing trees 1st doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jun 6 2013, 02:08 AM)
For those of you who farms on mp8-10, I think is helpful to share your average time taken to kill an elite pack.

List out the worst possible affixes for you and the time taken and also for the easiest ones. I think it provides the community with a way to gauge whether they should proceed to that MP or not.

I believe everyone wants to down an elite ASAP so this might help.

I'm particularly interested at the eDPS of monks and barbs. This is not some epeen contest but I just want to know where I stand. Some say 250k and above CM SNS wiz is sick but I don't feel that powerful.

so if you could, do share your time.

p/s: I repeat this is not an epeen contest.
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yes yes this is very helpful. paper dps isn't a good indicator, also different class have different advantage so its good to focus the the scope to "how long it takes to down elite at mp X".

i m cookie cutter monk with 225k dps, mp8 elite down in like 5-7 sec per, so its like 20-25 to down whole pack of elite.

QUOTE(Penangnitesz @ Jun 6 2013, 08:24 AM)
@2890 I am farming mp 10 act 1 in average 10s per pack.

230k cob wd here
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hmmm this is amazing, profile please smile.gif

i am moving to int charc next after my monk, need to refer more wd/wiz boss smile.gif

QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jun 6 2013, 08:57 AM)
killing faster is not the only factor now.

do note that higher MP has more Bonus item; MP8 = 71%, MP10 = 100%. i farm MP8 whenever i want to feel like having 400k DPS (becoz mobs HP is 50% of MP10)... but less drops, i mean rare, despite killing faster. MP10, you see rare everywhere... everywhere...

also in my experience legendary number drops in mp10 about the same but i get better quality legs and green. may be due to higher MF cap in mp10...
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i think that kill fast is really a factor for efficiency, yes the drop table is better in mp10 but you'll get faster killing speed and more kills in mp8 smile.gif

also, i die in mp10 sometime sweat.gif

QUOTE(samuraislash @ Jun 6 2013, 08:59 AM)
playing monk is fun. skill diversity and combination are most important. uploading my latest project video with 100k DPS (use inna reach and resting my skorn) at COTA run MP 10 in 3-4 min. Build - DodgeBellySlap. XD
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agree agree, monk got a lot of diversify and high mobility icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 6 2013, 09:29 PM

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i haven't go and farm yet.. just go for killing spree..

but i hate that pool of poison and arcane laser!! revive oso in the same place keep dying..
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post Jun 7 2013, 01:53 PM

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My dh n barb can farm up to mp3 comfortably... Can't go more than that.. Takes too long time to down elites n higher risk of dying... Hardcore mode btw
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post Jun 18 2013, 07:56 PM

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just now farm few rounds in mp5, although able to survive but spending some times to beaten each elite group..
should i use soj to kill elites in mp5 ?
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post Jun 18 2013, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(erdingerbier @ Jun 18 2013, 07:56 PM)
just now farm few rounds in mp5, although able to survive but spending some times to beaten each elite group..
should i use soj to kill elites in mp5 ?
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depends on ur current dps .. usually SoJ start to shine if ur paper dps is 200k n above .. 100-200k dps mostly break even .. also if ur crit chance is high enuff to compensate for the loss of cc on one ring slot.
there are also other situations which SoJ can benefit certain build eg:
- cold soj for ww barb
- cold soj for HA DH using Cull of the Weak passive
- zombie dog/bears/firebats reduction soj
- high spirit regen TR@WoL soj (2.x SR n above) for TR/Bell monks
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post Jun 18 2013, 08:59 PM

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I farm experience at mp10 if I decided to farm demonic essences I go to mp8-9 . Hope this can help and mp lvl really need to know ur character capabilities

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