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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL offcial thread V7, jelly 4.2 update arrived

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dembaba9000
post Jun 5 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jun 5 2013, 12:00 PM)
when i was studying marketing 3 years ago, i remember there was a marketing strategy for a company to spammed the market with a lot of products of their own, the purpose was that consumer will end up still buying their product rather opt for the competitor's products. so basically the ideas is that it is better to compete with your own product rather than the competitors.

samsung succeeded in this marketing strategy. most people i know only see samsung brand when it come to buy a handphone.
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very true^^

n sometimes low end phones dont need to sell, more or less its like platform sharing thingy production cost is so low.

Just enough to gain some market shares will do.


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post Jun 5 2013, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Jun 5 2013, 12:07 PM)
very true^^

n sometimes low end phones dont need to sell, more or less its like platform sharing thingy production cost is so low.

Just enough to gain some market shares will do.
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I still find low end will only destroy the brand name.

Android low end is a no go.
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:11 PM

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Hi I am new proud owner of Xperia Z 6303 black here.

Had trouble to choose Z and ZL. Very confusing flagship from Sony and how they distribute in Malaysia.
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 5 2013, 12:10 PM)
I still find low end will only destroy the brand name.

Android low end is a no go.
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used to. but with the stable jelly bean around i think it's fine la.

from sony's perspective tech and production line is already there dont use also wasted.

anyway i have to agree to the point where sony declares themselves for not going into low ends anymore earlier this year.

eh eh off topic dah>< shocking.gif shocking.gif
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 4 2013, 05:07 PM)
If you still under .434 firmware, the camera quality is suck.

If you already in latest .253 firmware, snap using SCN mode will given great result.

* Superior Auto is really bad unless bright outdoor.
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Hmmm... sometimes it shot just fine. sharp enough.

Maybe the lighting is not right.

thanks for the tips bro smile.gif
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Jun 5 2013, 12:12 PM)
used to. but with the stable jelly bean around i think it's fine la.

from sony's perspective tech and production line is already there dont use also wasted.

anyway i have to agree to the point where sony declares themselves for not going into low ends anymore earlier this year.

eh eh off topic dah>< shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Haha! Yalo.

Declare not doing low end - pop up a lot now.

Mention SOON update of 4.2.2 after release of Xperia Z - now is already few months, it is not longer soon in means.
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 5 2013, 12:15 PM)
Haha! Yalo.

Declare not doing low end - pop up a lot now.

Mention SOON update of 4.2.2 after release of Xperia Z - now is already few months, it is not longer soon in means.
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companies paling pandai la use vague terms.

our soon and their soon manyak different one haha.
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Jun 5 2013, 12:17 PM)
companies paling pandai la use vague terms.

our soon and their soon manyak different one haha.
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Ya, if cannot make it, don't said SOON, people will not much nagging after the SOON period is really too SOON. tongue.gif
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 4 2013, 05:07 PM)
If you still under .434 firmware, the camera quality is suck.

If you already in latest .253 firmware, snap using SCN mode will given great result.

* Superior Auto is really bad unless bright outdoor.
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QUOTE(Tedtherence @ Jun 5 2013, 12:12 PM)
Hmmm... sometimes it shot just fine. sharp enough.

Maybe the lighting is not right.

thanks for the tips bro smile.gif
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yes it is..
yesterday i attempted some shots which I think not good at all..
used Scene-Night Portrait

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post Jun 5 2013, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jun 5 2013, 12:34 PM)
yes it is..
yesterday i attempted some shots which I think not good at all..
used Scene-Night Portrait

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What firmware you are at?
This seems no focus at all..
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jun 5 2013, 12:34 PM)
yes it is..
yesterday i attempted some shots which I think not good at all..
used Scene-Night Portrait

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Your photo seems got focusing issue.
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QUOTE(vincent829 @ Jun 5 2013, 01:20 PM)
What firmware you are at?
This seems no focus at all..
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i was replying when andrew was saying the 434 camera FW sucks..
still on 434..

im procrastinating on updating to 253 as i don't want to risk my ntfs formatted 32gb to break if i attempt to reformat to fat..
already had traumatic experience doing so..
so im waiting for a chance to purchase a new 32gb, then i update to 253/307...
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jun 5 2013, 01:28 PM)
i was replying when andrew was saying the 434 camera FW sucks..
still on 434..

im procrastinating on updating to 253 as i don't want to risk my ntfs formatted 32gb to break if i attempt to reformat to fat..
already had traumatic experience doing so..
so im waiting for a chance to purchase a new 32gb, then i update to 253/307...
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Oh, since you still at .434, you no need downgrade and use method at XDA update to .253 with root, then probably can use the 64GB card with support.

By the way, 64GB really troublesome, my previous 64GB in S III now use for DSLR, haha!

and I use back previous own 32GB.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 5 2013, 01:30 PM)
Oh, since you still at .434, you no need downgrade and use method at XDA update to .253 with root, then probably can use the 64GB card with support.

By the way, 64GB really troublesome, my previous 64GB in S III now use for DSLR, haha!

and I use back previous own 32GB.
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troublesome as in? support issue is it?
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jun 5 2013, 01:31 PM)
troublesome as in? support issue is it?
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Ya support issue, as last time I play CM and it not support.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 5 2013, 11:44 AM)
Actually Sony release too much.

Z, ZL = same, just one without water resistance. If already thinking of ZR release, the ZL is extra, lucky it look quite nice in actual.

ZR for people prefer smaller size, even it is only 4.6 but still can use 1080P screen, so I count this as middle-high.

SP - Mid range.

L, M, E - all low end, too many low end series.  (M mention as middle range, for me, sorry this is low end phone)

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UL is Japan only, a bit like ZL in worldwide, A is Japan also, similar as ZR. Actually I seen no point release specific slightly different / change name for Japan only.
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luckily sony screw ZR on the front camera with vga resolution laugh.gif thanks a lot! that why i still seeing many facebook user (gals) posted their photos look low resolution tongue.gif back to story, if not, i will be very upset on the ZL presence tongue.gif

actually ZR just 4.55inch, not 4.6 and pixel density just 312ppi, lower storage 8gb,

similar battery 2300mha could be stay longer as smaller screen compare to ZL. is ZR battery removeable?
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 5 2013, 12:22 PM)
Ya, if cannot make it, don't said SOON, people will not much nagging after the SOON period is really too SOON. tongue.gif
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well, if you study back sony's announcement, "soon" is a favourite words from Sony.
when launching TX, said JB update will be available soon after...
same thing with Z, also said 4.2 update will be available soon after...
not to mention JB for XS... also countless "soon"...

vague marketing promises only
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jun 5 2013, 01:36 PM)
luckily sony screw ZR on the front camera with vga resolution  laugh.gif thanks a lot! that why i still seeing many facebook user (gals) posted their photos look low resolution  tongue.gif  back to story, if not, i will be very upset on the ZL presence  tongue.gif

actually ZR just 4.55inch, not 4.6 and pixel density just 312ppi, lower storage 8gb,

similar battery 2300mha could be stay longer as smaller screen compare to ZL. is ZR battery removeable?
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The good part of ZR is battery removable.

Some people review - http://bbs.gfan.com/forum.php?mod=viewthre...&extra=page%3D2 (in chinese)
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jun 5 2013, 01:38 PM)
well, if you study back sony's announcement, "soon" is a favourite words from Sony.
when launching TX, said JB update will be available soon after...
same thing with Z, also said 4.2 update will be available soon after...
not to mention JB for XS... also countless "soon"...

vague marketing promises only
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But Sony extra add-on "Now the Z is much stock look, easier for implement future firmware updates".
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post Jun 5 2013, 02:20 PM

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Is this how XZ camera shoot on body skin?? I've tried all setting and it all look like this...

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This is what I want instead.
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