I hope so. Will try one more last time to find a 4.6-4.7ghz@1.1v

hmm bad and the worst 4770k is 1.1v 3.9ghz. yeah f***ed up. basically stock vid is the clock.
Avg ones are 4.2ghz but still 50:50 u end up the above or this.
Above Average is 4.5ghz @ 1.1v... 5-10% chance of getting this. i had one but the imc like screwed up even 2400mhz it had issues and the vccin voltage was fluxing like mad.
And Awesome one with god himself coming down and patting u in the back is 4.7ghz@1.1v.. literally. he came down and whispered bless u my son.
thats rare. even on percentages... any ram.. stable vccin.. u name it. this do 5ghz @ 1.25v.

so whatcha think about that 1.42v again @ 4.5ghz.. thats the hall of fame worst one ever.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jun 15 2014, 01:10 AM

dude u were lucky. out of 5 cpu's 2 were 3's and 3 were L4's. best was 4.5ghz 1.2v stable.

was about to upload some benchies of 4.5ghz vs 4.8ghz. ( since previous 4770k most ppl were on 4.5) .. img hosting site i use now suddenly on maintence.

interesting.. the 4790k. voltage and temperature wise i would say marginally better but on multiscaling its like intel did something to make the cpu scaling more "free"
and all the voltage, vccin are very stable with almost 0 flux on load. The good 4770k inherited this trait and the worse ones were like a yo-yo.

3d result. Rog team did it again. New bios a lot of improvement on scores.



This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 4 2014, 10:59 AM

that is the first time i see a 4770k so low temp with 1.25v on h105 running small fft.

that wont work dude.

first page of the thread. update to the latest 28.5 prime. errr hmmm test at 1.1v first.

hmmm i just noticed it. stasio do u mind posting show ure 4.7 prime small fft or linx stable. cause it looks to me it isnt and only stable at 1.27-1.3v

just asking because thinking now of getting one unit of ure batch. but it really looks like same as 533.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 5 2014, 01:10 AM

eh i told u it was a 4770k. not a 4790k. denzel. but odd was his temp. seriously its low.

and just now i spend sometime looking at OCN database and filtering their overclocks

Ok this is how 4790k performs

Crappy ones. 4.4ghz@1.25 ( 4770k was 4.2ghz@1.25v)
Average ones are 4.6ghz@1.25v (4770k was 4.5ghz@1.25v)

So far seriously none has shown a stable 4.7/4.8ghz@1.25v that i can say valid.

so like ure current cpu ure 4770 4.6ghz @ 1.325v. chances of u getting one either equal or better is good so might as well get it.
y cause the scaling wise its much better
my 4770k had tons of issue on air to do 4.7ghz. will post, surf etc but cannot run benchmark unless i overvolt. 4790k voltage scaling on my proc still intact up to 1.35v.

although sin says vid is not true. it depends how the mobo reports it.
True vid on asus can only be seen when installing cpu first time and entering bios.

so mine is vid 1.036. Need to find one that has vid 0.94/0.98v.. if see that no need to test. Confirm above golden and above average. The crappy ones were 1.136. So looking at later result confirms the 0.1v difference. 4.4ghz vid on auto is not correct and has a margin of error of 0.05v





so hmm yeah i think will end at this binning. Will resell back the next two cpu back to the shop and take something else from them.
so 4.5ghz@1.2v is what the other 50 percent lucky will end up. the worst so far is 4.4ghz@1.25v. I had 3 of those. again for the general public. This is not booting or benching test. It was superstable test.





5ghz.. hmm seems like another hurdle involving some other voltages/setting. can make a few guesses. Test this tommorow. What i worry is i will kill this cpu lol since i am doing this on air.
Killed a lot of 4770k .. steep learning curve that time.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 5 2014, 03:20 AM

Final stability test. Need to do a few encodes from blu-rays.
Btw i normally will remux it to mkv and then encode.
Ahem to those that know.

Latest x264 command line with AVX2.


this is where haswell shines. insanely fast. see that fps counter. If this was sandy/ivy at same speed will be 6-7fps on my encode setting.

I have a lot of times prime stable/linx stable system fail on reptitive number of encodes. i do about 30 encodes a month.

Stasio
Think its ure z97 board rather than a cpu issue.

Hmm ure 5ghz sp32m is like close to a 4.5ghz sp32m.

Mem subtiming etc??

generally a lot of quick benches out there on z97.. all slower the z87.
but i dont think its a cpu thing but rather a mobo bios thing..

slower wprime.. one guy posted in ocn his 5ghz.. thats like my 4.7ghz.
way lower 3dmark physx etc...

are we seeing a another foxconn mars magic here.

i tried as of today 3 cpus. all can bench 4.7ghz @ 1.225v. None will do 4.8ghz wprime 1024.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 8 2014, 11:32 PM

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 10 2014, 07:56 PM

cant dude. wprime temp will be hit the roof. 4.8ghz alreayd was hitting close to 80. Today because not so cold day and with aircond i dared.

I dare that guy lol to do it inside his casing etc of his rig.

but i will try to get sp32m. But cant beat him for sure. My 1st iteration was 4.240. His was 4.219

well he is running 5ghz on his cache @1.55v. Crazy fella.

I suspect his vccin to be around 2.1v-2.2v. to pull that off.

thats just balls of steel. I cant dude. Already commited on WCing whole rig with this cpu mainly the reason. if not 6k goes down the drain.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 12 2014, 10:18 PM

a lot of things are changing on DC bro. I am not really trying to get 2666 C10 1t Stable on this cpu. Before always stuck at 2600 2t on 4770k@1.6v. All on tRDRD 4.

Take note i am running 4 ssd's + 2 HDD + 2 GPU Titan Blacks at the fastest PCIE preset + Creative Zx + Rams 2400 C9 4x4gb C9 1t, RTL 41,42 IOL 4 , tRDRD 4 ( All the rams settings were done manually to get optimum... skews, ic profile etc.. everything.. took me about 3 months to get the skews perfect)

IMC still 0.800 stock
CPU Analogue Voltage -.200 = 0.800v.
CPU Digital Voltage +0.100 = 1.1v ( still same as 4770k )

This is freaking new for me. Redefines DC imc strength.

I wonder stasio
Have u tried running say really on stock with ure

??

i mean the digital/analogue i/o and system agent voltage.
how much difference is it from ure 4770k for ure 2933 rams.

so far testing on 2666.. stock still seems fine on 4x4gb.


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 14 2014, 02:37 AM

Generally DC can expect 4.7ghz. 4.8ghz and above seems other things that pop up that is not vcore related.

So that part i will try to solve with more strenous cooling.

so now mem clocking ppl. Pentiums are doing 2800 C7's. and Msi Mpower z97 seems like a magic board with timings and efficiency.
The ram settings options on this board is insane.

So far for me i am doing 2600mhz-2666mhz 1t C10 tRDRD 4. issue with me is whenever i stress this.. like after a few minutes.. shutdown.
Still clueless as to what is shutting it down. tRDRD 5 no issue.


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 14 2014, 12:54 PM

gsan
Load optimized in bios. Save n restart
Enter back into bios
See what voltage ure cpu is running.

Nice. Oc. Btw ure cache is 4.3 on screenshot.
Perfect. Asus boards 1.3v above.. Hmm got issues.


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 15 2014, 09:53 PM

pretty sure u can do it lower @1.2v
run at manual for cpu and cache voltage

loadline level 8 (maximum)
set 1.2v for ure vcore.
disable SVID
disable CPU spectrum
set cpu VRM frequency 400
set dram VRM frequency 400
disable intel adaptive thermal monitor
enable dynamic storage accelarator ( works with c-states for ssd and u need to have RST installed and ure windows power config hdd sleep set to Never)

just tested just now a 4770k with z87 hero and 16gb 2400 C11 vengeance pro @ 4.5ghz 1.2v.
this is all u need.

the rest all on default is good

for better stabilty and more performance
in dram setting
set ure dram cas write latency based on ure SPD for ure Ram XMP
mrc fast boot disable
MCH full check enable
dram additional training enable
(cons if u shutdown ure computer computer completely. ure comp will restart twice. its to make sure all the ram timings are correct and doesnt always change )

additional
go to RTL
see what ure Channel A rtl is
set initial RTL +5 of that value
save and reboot and see whether u still get the same RTL for A/B and IOL
enter the rtl and iol values u see.

This will make ure ram/imc settings fixed and not flux on multi clocking etc... max performance.


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 19 2014, 04:45 PM

did somebody con u. that is not a K.

max oc with bus speed 125 should be easy so

anything else i doubt u can unless u pair with a higher end mobo that can take care of pcie issues.

K was design as software overclocking via IMEI, Xtreme is pure clocking. No K/Extreme no multiplier clocking

Olden days we get Multiplier clocking on Extreme and Bus speed on non Extreme. because the walls were not that high. Ppl went for non-extreme due to leakage etc.

Since sandy bridge with the introduction of K, u can clock the multiplier. And with bios enchancement etc the K performs as well as extreme.
Hence the Extreme is only given to the highest platform the X series mobo, currently the 4960X and a bigger level 3 cache.

but with non-K since the thread speed is already fast, most of the cpu's are low clocked.. aka 34 multi with bus speed 100.
So most u can get out of it is 125 bus speed example on a cheap mobo. so around 4.25. But for stability since the pcie bus speed will also increase and to make sure ure sata bus speed doesnt increase.. u get those features etc for bus stability on higher end motherboards.

So its crazy buying a cheap cpu and high end mobo. when a K with lowest series Z87/Z97 is much better. Only benefit to non-k ( except for devil canyon) u get Vt-D

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 25 2014, 06:35 PM