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post Jul 15 2013, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 14 2013, 07:29 AM)
4.5.......LinX 10.3.12......fast test (still not trimmed)

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post Jul 15 2013, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 15 2013, 06:26 PM)
Haha,you are still on me........
It's bug in earli GTL..3=1...4=2......sometimes tRAS=0....... blush.gif

Edit:
just shifted things in new casing.........NZXT Phantom 630 Ultra Tower
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Eh didnt want want for the phantek casing???

Gtl??

I am still trying to solve the 4.5ghz uncore scaling.

Btw when lower the uncore ure core voltage goes down. But the exact vcore is at 4.4 1:1.

Hope more ppl show their vcore .4.4 ..1.1

Shams skews are damn nice. Solves high vdimm scaling

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post Jul 16 2013, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(hafizul88 @ Jul 16 2013, 12:31 AM)
My first attemp on Haswell  sweat.gif

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nice
but change ure tRDRD from 5 to 4.
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post Jul 17 2013, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(The Real Deal @ Jul 17 2013, 02:15 AM)
Hi,

4670K 4,5 GHz @ 1,21v ; an average chip i guess.

same vCore than AIDA64, i'm surprised.

10 degres hotter tough. The room is hot, the Thermalright makes a good job.

Loose RAM, i don't have decent modules ATM.
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QUOTE(The Real Deal @ Jul 17 2013, 05:39 PM)
Hi,
Searching through the web some infos about my batch, a person told his chip need 1,16/17v for 4,5 GHz.

No screenshots though.
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Batches mean squat on hadwell. Sincre ure running 4 core
Try linpack from intel.
Linx says my 4.5ghz at 1.2 n 4.3ghz at 1.1.

Intel linpack avx2 4.2ghz at 1.1v. Above this cannot run lol cause too hot. Glops 2xx. Especially the last problem size.

Linx takes 0.05v less than prime n intel linpack 11.
Linpack 11 doesnt support ht so either disable ht to test or edit the bat file n change one of the lines cpu affinity,

So far been very accurate. No need waste my time on prime so much.

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QUOTE(The Real Deal @ Jul 17 2013, 09:29 PM)
I know, just an old habbit since Nehalem

http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/i...inpack-download

Already tried, runs 10 degres C hooter than LinX 0.6.4 AVX Edition

around 95 degres C for 1,21 ; my cooler can't handle this, lol.
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totally recommended. it finds a lot of problems on rtl, twl, tRFC etc that i cannot find on prime, memtest and linx.
Hmm curious abt that size 25000...

Any next run at 40000 only about 14gig. 5 runs. Normally i find that having the mem increasing problem size more stressfull.

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Finally. Stopped the run as cannot see any fails

U need residual numbers for every run to match up for fully stable.
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Me liking the New Linpack. Reduce vcore and speeds to get stability before upping back. 4.5ghz now shld be 1.25v

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Hmm didnt see the reading.. that shld be failing soon.
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my guide for haswell

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Ok for ure sake i am going to make this very simple
Step one Run optimize. Set ure HDD settings etc and boot settings. keep this default and save.
Step two enter windows and run msconfig and choose diagnostic mode and then choose ure startup CLick all the asus ones and intel integrated clock service.Click apply but dont restart yet. Reason is do now want to corrupt ure hdd on the test we are going to do.
Step Three download Linpack 11 from Intel. Google it. Then modify this in linpack/benchmark folder of the program u downloaded.
runme_xeon64.bat
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@echo off
SETLOCAL

rem Setting up affinity for better threading performance
set KMP_AFFINITY=nowarnings,compact,granularity=fine
rem Setting path to OpenMP library
set PATH=..\..\..\redist\intel64\compiler;%PATH%

echo Running linpack_xeon64.exe. Output can be found in win_xeon64.txt.
start /b /affinity 55 linpack_xeon64.exe lininput_xeon64 > win_xeon64.txt

echo.
echo When this window closes the calculation is done.

ENDLOCAL

and then also edit this file
lininput_xeon64
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Sample Intel(R) Optimized LINPACK Benchmark data file (lininput_xeon64)
Intel(R) Optimized LINPACK Benchmark data
1 # number of tests
42500 # problem sizes
42500  # leading dimensions
1 # times to run a test
4 # alignment values (in KBytes)

Create a shortcut of win_xeon64.txt & runme_xeon64 into ure desktop.
Step 5 Download realtemp

Restart.

Step 6
Enter into asus bios and change only these. Run all ure cores at 42. Change ure vcore to 1.1v
Disable CPU spectrum.
Dont bother with ram atm. and enter back into windows. Run aisuite and real temp. Run the shortcut runme_xeon64. Wait for it to finish. If u see ure cooling cant take it close the command window and use aisuite to dial it back down to 1.05v but generally it should be able to with those megahalems. This are 1 run so will take about 4-5mins. if u can pass it and u see in ure
win_xeon64.txt the result once its completed .

keep upping ure cpu multiplier till u bsod/restart.

this is best way and fastest way i know to confirm ure vcore and ure cpu multi. Once u confirmed ure voltages and since this test is a bit insane. U can up ure muti for every 1 with 0.05v on the vcore after this test.

the rest dude read up on the guide by sham.

also once ure done run msconfig and choose back normal.

ok now back to mem. This is complicated for 2400mhz. Run the xmp. Up ure vcssa to 1-1.1v and up ure analogue i/o voltage until u can enter windows basically. Also xtalk is important at this stage if u want to maintain ure cpu vcore/voltage scaling. So up this also. Reducing PLL Termination Voltage from 1.2v to 1. this helps sometimes. BTW Disable Full manual and use manual mode on cpu only. VCSSA stock is 0.825v-0.85v depending on ure cpu and analogue i/o is 1v default.

Run Linpack but u may want to change it from 1 run to 20 runs.

when ure done up ure uncore voltage same as ure vcore and up ure cache speed. Start with 1:1 with cpu and back it down. everytime till u can pass all the runs of linx.

VCCIN seriously follow the spec. Initial 1.7v with eventual 1.65min to 1.86v max with a difference of 0.4v. so in case of 1.1v choose 1.65v eventual.

Long term optimization for full stability. Secondary timings, RTLS. Changing from semi manual to adaptive and enabling full c-states depending on ure PSU.
happy clockin ppl.
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post Jul 21 2013, 11:46 PM

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At what point u have to up ure tRDRD from 4.
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QUOTE(khaidir1976 @ Jul 21 2013, 01:13 PM)
hehe...saving $$$ to buy bro owi 16GB Team Xtreem DDR3 PC3-20800 2600MHz (10-12-12-31) Quad Channel kit 4x4GB memory...
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yeah 2600's c10's

Whatever sham did.. the unclockable BFRs are clocking now.

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post Jul 22 2013, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:24 PM)
Can't recall but should be 2800 onwards needing me to up tRDRD to 5.
I don't have any CPU to play with right now waiting for Costa batch lol.
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Hmm than 2600 will be my 24/7.. thought before it always was up to 2400 only since everybody i see are doing 2600-2666 at tRDRD 5

anyway here is the final 2600 10-12-11-30 2T @ 1.625v.

Now to get to the hard part of running 1T.

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This rams are really sweet. Thanks owikh.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 23 2013, 08:44 AM)
Nice! G.Skill stock at 2.4Ghz CL9!  drool.gif

I noticed that the stock voltage at 1.65v... why not set at default (or slightly higher) and push the rams more?  hmm.gif

Is it 2 x 4Gb and how much does it usually cost?
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got it from owkih.
hmm its 4x4gb
hmm u really need to clock rams. this are rated at 9-11-10-28 but will do 9-11-10-27.

also this is tRDRD 4 for bFR at 2600mhz C10. The difference of 0.025v is because its not running 1t which will required @1.65v.

U really need to clock rams.

Scaling vs performance vs gain. Samething why not use ure cpu voltage at 1.4 and run ure vcore and cache 1:1.

Find the exact voltage. If not i dont call that clocking. I call that bantai.

btw as usual with 1t with this rams its giving so much trouble lol. same was 2400 1t was not easy.

btw i think tRDRD4 ends at 2600/2666 i think but again not easy.

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QUOTE(hafizul88 @ Jul 23 2013, 08:36 PM)
I also unfamiliar with lot of terms. Tried changing the tertiary timing to tRDRD from 6 to 4. You'll see improvement in benchmark. My poor RAM came with 2400MHz CL11 CR2
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All rams are. To do 1t u need adjust some voltages.

But this depends on imc strength. Btw tech no diff between 1t vs 2t in real world.

My case two sticks easy .. 4 sticks at 2600 kindda hard but not impossible.

But the sticks so far are giving out at 2666. 2800 just can boot n enter windows with no stability at all. Just run aida will reboot.
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yeah but lol i havent actually tried clocking two sticks yet.

but for now i really NEED some corsair Dom Plats 2666 C10's.

but hmm i like ripjaw Z. ure rams bro are really a beaut and stays cool and are low profile. always was happy with 4gb. then went to 16gb. saw the benefits with fast ram. dont think can go back to 4 or downgrade to 8 again.

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Those are very odd default subtimings.

the tWRRD_dr/dd, tWRWR_dr/dd and tRDWR,dr/dd.

hmm must try these.

Tested the asrock timing configurator on m6e. Damn it shows all the correct timings except.. hmm i set tWTR to 9 but here it reads 10. I suspected as much. That that timing was not rite.

btw whats CMD_stretch??

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QUOTE(tangenx @ Jul 24 2013, 12:45 PM)
Team,

So far I have done lots of reading ...

I'm not a gamer at all.. I just want a blazing fast computer for video and image rendering and also fast browsing.
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Continuation from here
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2833263/+493#
DDR3 2400mhz Clocking on Haswell for ROG.
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?3...ll=1#post288330

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Not the worst chip but i would say less than norm. Norm is most of them do 4.3/4.4ghz at 1.2v. Ures is similar to owikh cpu. But his eventhough 1.4v for 4.6ghz but does 3k rams easy. So maybe ure imc is stronger.
Ure ready to test that 4.2ghz with 2400mhz ram. Ure 4.3 and 4.4 is false. After we up the ram to 2400. Lets see ure 4.4ghz even passing Prime Test at 1.25v. I expect it to fail.

Set Ure timings to manually
Vcssa = 1.1v ( Offset +0.275v), Analogue i/o 1.2v ( Offset 0.200) , Digital i/o Auto (Shld be offset 0.100v on auto ..1.1v) & vdimm 1.65v , ( Later need to test this out also) Xtalk in tweakers paradise to 1.2v
Mem Tweak Auto
First Tier timings 10-12-12-31 Cmd 1T
Second Tier tRRD = 6 TWTR/TRTP = 9 tFAW = 26 TWCL = 7
Third Tier tRDRD = 4, tWRRD = 23 ( some rams can take it but need to test ures or leave it at auto)

Test with the 4.2ghz stable setting u have. U need now to run in the same condition but with Prime95
Set Prime as custom. Change Amount of mem to 7000mb/7500mb. Set ure Each fft from 15mins to 120mins.
We want to test the first FFT only as this is just to test the Mem timings and vdimm, vcssa and analogue/digital i/o.

If it passes an hour. Try using aisuite and reduce the vdimm to 1.625/vttdr 0.8125 and if it passes that also try reducing vdimm to 1.6v/vttdr 0.8v. If it passes that also awesome.

Then restart and reduce the analogue i/o to the point of booting and test again on prime. Then when u found ure best try reducing vcssa till u get full prime stability.

Last but not least.. Uncore Try 1:1 same voltage as vcore and keep reducing. The test suite for this is Linpack. Maintain the voltage and keep reducing ure uncore. Check linpack results.
U must get the same residual norm values. Also to make sure dont run anything else in the background and run linpack in high priorioty in task manager. Increase from 5 runs to 20.

When ure done with uncore try the prime test suite with above setting. If it passes

Run aida stability test cpu/fpu/system cache/system mem for an hour. If this passes the best way to test this is stable is..

Up ure cpu to 4.5ghz vcore 1.35v ( i am assuming ure cooling can handle this) with the exact difference u found previous on ure uncore to cpu to 1.35v. Run Initial at 1.75v and eventual at 1.75v vccin. Run the prime with the settings above for 2 hours. followed by aida few hours.

U got ure 4.5ghz now.

If ure rams can do 10-12-12 at 1.6v u may want to try 9-11-11-28@ 1.65v twcl value 6/7.
Another bit i forgot. Set ure tREF to 9360 adn tRFC try these values 74/90/106/122/138/154/170/186/202
tRFC generally if it can boot it will pass prime but u need to test it with prime with the setting above again.

Have fun.

Last but not least. RTL stability
Set inital RTL to +2/+3/+4 of the biggest value u see in ure RTIl a/B. Find the value till u can boot.
Then disable Swizzling bit 2 and set ure rtls and iol values. Set latency compensator enabled.

but really the last bit not necessary as the board is very consistent for 2400 on 2dimms.

I generally run CPU/Cache in manual and the rest in offset and full c-state c3,c6,c7s and pacakge state enabled. ( make sure ure cpu supports this)

u need to try prime on cold boot, etc. issues that arrise could be twcl or vccin etc.

Run memtest86 4.2 or the new 5.0 beta on cold boot. Try 5 passes min.


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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 26 2013, 01:00 PM)
Hi guys...if anybody interested ...I have some good kits for sell....

1. Team DDR3 2600 10-12-12-31 2x4GB .....Samsung IC
2. G.Skill DDR3 2600 10-12-12-31 2x4GB.....Samsung IC
3. G.Skill DDR3 2133 8-9-8-24 2x2GB....BBSE IC

will post with other stuff in garage...soon.

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Other stuff....
Z87X-UD3H brand new
Z77X-UP5
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can this rams do 2600 tRDRD 4 or 2600 C10 at 1.65v??
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 26 2013, 01:55 PM)
2600 tRDRD 4 I didn't try yet,but what I read arround is also depend to BIOS.
2600 C10 at 1.65v no problem.

Btw,
if anybody need latest benching BIOS for Z87X-OC....let me know.
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ok i am looking for rams/cpu that can do 2600 1t tRDRD 4 (thats 40k on read) or better yet 2666 1t tRDRD 4.. thats a lot more than 40k lol..

greedy for it.
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