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post Jun 10 2013, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(brianccg @ Jun 10 2013, 11:40 AM)
er... i dont know if economic good or bad now but I realize the money is depreciate faster and faster everyday.....
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Alot of kangtao people earning fast... and then faster run. Someone just sold a land in KL for few hundred million.. he only take 2% commission. rclxms.gif

Oh btw anyone interested at Jalan Conlay? Got land for sale.
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post Jun 22 2013, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jun 21 2013, 11:38 PM)
I'm one of them, haven't owned a house yet..  sad.gif
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You are certainly part of the vast majority.

70% of my co-workers (in an oil/gas firm), ex-co-workers (in big 4 audit), personal friends and ex-school (damansara jaya) friends are not home owners too.

Interestingly 90% of my Malay and Indian friends are non-home owners. You know in oil/gas you can mingle around with many Malay colleagues and today many share a common view that we all gotta be very worried of the "home affordability" issue.

Just go to any social youth gathering like the lowyat one or bloggers' gathering... a vast majority are not home owners. And on average, many are wanting to buy any type of home at RM300 psf and a vast majority are "debt-ridden" such as having car loans to pay.

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post Jun 22 2013, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 22 2013, 12:12 AM)
Bro, ur situation is really different with mine. My colleagues are buying non stop. Average at 3 houses. 90% are non-home owners? Really that bad aaa?
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i belong to the 24-26 age group and perhaps my accounting/finance line is more conservative when it comes to property. probably too caught up with work.

predominantly ethnic-borned Chinese friends around 70% as mentioned... but Malay friends are overwhelmingly not owning yet, in fact the awareness of property investment has just started.

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and no offense... many of my neighborhood friends (ex-schoolies in damansara "PJ lang"), probably will get a home with abit of help from parents... so no home also never mind!!

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 22 2013, 12:34 AM)
Hahah. Then no need to worry liao. tongue.gif can buy scirocco or golf gti
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girlfriend is more important... but i put importance more balance: work life, personal life, social/youth life, making money life and last but not least sarcarstically - kangtao life with the who's who.. LOL

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post Jun 30 2013, 05:12 PM

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"Build Then Sell" will kill the primary market and probably is the best way to curb the incidence of speculations in the primary market, though it is too harsh for developers.

Anyway, the govt has no intention to make BTS compulsory for now... but is looking at ways how the govt can be a genuine player in the housing sector, i.e. PR1MA, offering homes less than RM500k to meet the demands of the masses of working people. In years to come, private developers would probably need to move up the value chain to offer products that greatly distinguished from social housing like PR1MA.

Another thing is the govt may want more private developers to fund the surrounding infrastructure to the whole extent instead of relying from DBKL or Majlis. In order to enhance the value of properties, private developers would have to build their linkage to public transport or even build more new parks new police beats and new ramps/roads or BRT (bus rapid transit) to their sites. This is already happening now... but still not good enough. How many private developers out there are like Sunway willing to build a totally new modern BRT Line? How many township developers are like S P Setia able to have their own communal police?

Private developers will definitely incur many more additional costs, so their target market will also have to change to the affluent group of people. (according to bank data, the number of high net worth individuals in malaysia could easily double in years to come)

Demand and supply theory will greatly dictate the property market but that is one part of the story as there are also regulatory, environment, macroeconomics and other external factors that are also dictating the market. At the end, I think it all comes down to how confident are you in the Malaysia economy. (ASEAN economies if becoming more integrated will definitely make our economy stronger)

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like me i got car, i got properties, i got insurances... and still young (but i say old)

want to buy car mah buy car lor...

want to buy property mah buy property lor...

absolutely personal preference depends on personal circumstances and own judgment. no need to debtate like war in this thread lah.

happy go lucky... remember your loved ones and party hard too...

my 2 cents...

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The govt now encourages state firms and agencies to invest in local real estate. And incentives have been proposed for landowners who wished to redevelop their lands....

Our mrt project will be followed by several more Subsequent lines which will be presented to cabinet in a matter of days and weeks...

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>>> Petronas will pour billions into KLCC with Lot 185/K and Lot D1 expected to begin construction very soon. Site is hoarded. Raffles is in discussion to be a hotelier. Nearby is Four Seasons, The Regent and a rumored Fairmont.

KLCC Property Holdings has awarded Sunway Contruction to construct an underground levels for the entire northeastern site of KLCC. In the future, one of the 6 basement floors will be converted into a simultaneous link to Suria KLCC with retail shops... and another 90-120 storey tower will be built on the eastern gate side.

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>>> Our richest state firm with more than 250 billion ringgit in portfolio is PNB, which is tasked to pour billions into Warisan Merdeka. The site has started land dredging. The hotelier here could be Park Hyatt. The Merdeka Tower has 118 floors with about 80 floors of office space which is about 70% pre-leased already. Btw... MRT Corp has a skywalk tunnel that will link the Merdeka Tower and Merdeka MRT to the future revived Plaza Rakyat.

PNB is also looking at redeveloping its assets in the city and one particular that has moved is the former Bangunan MAS which rumored to host a Conrad hotel?

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>>> EPF, our country's largest pension fund, will begin investing in KL real estate. This begins with a buyover of Quill City Mall component which is earmarked to be the new competitor to Pavilion KL. EPF is also the owner of RRIM land in Sg Buloh.

>>> Abu Dhabi and Qatar sovereign funds will invest more in KL, amongst their projects now are KLCC Lot 167K, Elite Pavilion (Pavilion Extension) and Harrods World developments. They are also interested to invest in KL Metropolis - being developed by Naza TTDI.

>>> Khazanah Nasional's main focus would be Iskandar Malaysia for now.

>>> 1MDB will kick off two megaprojects namely the Tun Razak Exchange and Bandar Malaysia (Sg Besi RMAF).

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well known international firm broadway malyan has won the masterplanning for Bandar Malaysia masterplan

>>> Lembaga Tabung Haji and Lembaga Angkatan Tentera were asked to develop their landbank. Amongst them are the Cochrane and Peel sites.

>>> Our country's newest fund KWAP is starting to move into real estate as well.

>>> Market rumors that several international names including our beloved Robert Kuok is surveying Greater KL now...


In the meantime, property prices in Iskandar Malaysia and Kota Kinabalu continue their impressive surge far ahead of Klang Velley in terms of %. Also, the retail sector is doing commendably well with about 5-6% sectoral growth this year driven by the expansion of big names. In the last quarter, Louis Vuitton will upgrate their Starhill outlet and transform it into a global store (more lines) opening next year. More than 91 shopping centres and retail plazas are planned for Greater KL.


Good night KL! Majulah hartanah negara!

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post Jul 4 2013, 04:34 PM

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"The higher the property price, the higher the GDV, the higher our GDP."

This is the view of a government officer.

Ok lah, tomorrow govt upgrade all their valuation. Kau tim. We'll become high income nation soon when our Net GDP % > Birth Rate. (Net GDP % = Nominal GDP % - Inflation Rate %)

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post Jul 11 2013, 11:22 PM

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The lower income registrants will get priority in PR1MA... that's what official said. Further, some PR1MA may need state consent to sell even after 10 years.

Too many not confirmed details.

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post Jul 12 2013, 12:09 PM

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Things are coming back hotter?


Singapore Q2 GDP surges 3.7% yoy
By Teh Shi Ning | Business Times Singapore | July 12, 2013
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/breaking-n...37-yoy-20130712
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SINGAPORE economy grew by a larger than expected 3.7 per cent in the second quarter compared to a year ago, rebounding from the meagre 0.2 per cent year-on-year growth registered in the first quarter.

Advance estimates released by the Ministry of Trade and Industry on Friday show that Q2 GDP surged 15.2 per cent quarter-on-quarter, on a seasonally-adjusted, annualised basis, much stronger than 1.8 per cent quarter-on-quarter growth for Q1.
KL-S'pore HSR gathers momentum
The Edge Property | By Fatin Rasyiqah Mustaza & Kamarul Anwar | Wednesday, 10 July 2013 13:57
http://www.theedgeproperty.com/news-a-views/11373.html
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KUALA LUMPUR: Some local companies are said to be talking to each other and several potential foreign partners to participate in the multi-billion ringgit high-speed rail (HSR) link connecting Kuala Lumpur to Singapore, industry analysts said. These companies include Gamuda Bhd, WCT Holdings Bhd, Malaysian Resources Corp Bhd, YTL Corp Bhd, UEM Group Bhd and MMC Corp Bhd.

"WCT and Gamuda have been heard to be in serious talks … they are planning to get joint venture partners from China," an analyst at Hong Leong Investment Bank told The Edge Financial Daily yesterday.
Malaysian Stocks First From Worst on Lowest Volatility
Bloomberg | By Weiyi Lim & Ian Sayson - Jul 10, 2013 10:14 AM GMT+0800
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-09/m...volatility.html
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At a time when slowing economic growth and political protests from Brazil to Turkey are spurring capital flight from emerging markets, Malaysia has turned into a refuge for equity investors.

The FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI Index (KLCI) was the biggest loser in Asia just four months ago as the closest elections in 55 years threatened the ruling coalition’s plans to spend $444 billion on infrastructure. Now the $478 billion stock market is the region’s best performer, after Prime Minister Najib Razak’s May 5 poll victory sparked a 4.2 percent rally in the KLCI index.

The gauge will probably rise 15 percent in the next 12 months and maintain the lowest volatility among the world’s biggest markets as Najib boosts spending to reach developed-nation per-capita income levels by 2020 and the nation’s $165 billion pension fund buys stocks, according to Samsung Asset Management. Malaysia has already weathered the 13 percent drop in the MSCI Emerging Markets Index (MXEF) as violence erupted from Sao Paulo to Istanbul to Cairo and economists predicted the weakest Chinese expansion since 1990.
The Chinese are coming!
The StarProperty | Friday July 12, 2013 MYT 11:34:22 AM
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Community/2...are-coming.aspx
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AS HE addresses an international crowd gathered at Kuala Lumpur’s Westin Hotel, it becomes apparent that Chairman Fu, with his formal demeanour and foreign-sounding title (distinctly different from the Datuks and Tan Sri’s we are used to), is an upright, sober man.

“We, as a China company, are very happy to work together with CBD Properties Sdn Bhd,” says Fu Wai Chung, founder of Chinese real estate company Hopefluent Group Holdings Ltd, with gravity.

“This joint venture company will benefit Chinese and Malaysian property buyers, developers and owners, and will make the economy grow.”

The newly established Hope CBD Realty Consultancy Sdn Bhd will market Malaysian properties to buyers from China, as well as assist Chinese developers in building projects here, among other cross-border plans.

How it all started

About a year ago, some key members of CBD Properties went on a study trip to Guangzhou.

“Alvin Ng, Daphne Chan and I saw Hopefluent’s profile, and went knocking on their door, to see whether they were interested to work together to promote Malaysia My 2nd Home (MM2H) sales,” says CBD Properties managing director Adrian Wang.

“Over the years, more and more Chinese people and companies have been coming to Malaysia.

“We liked the CBD people very much,” reciprocates Hopefluent Group executive director, Tim Lo.

“After several talks, we decided to bring the two companies together, because we understand the Malaysian market is quite attractive to Chinese residents. We can use our resources to get Chinese residents to come purchase properties in Malaysia.”

The last 10 years have seen Chinese citizens making 2,733 MM2H applications, making it the country with the highest number, followed by Bangladesh, the UK and Japan.

“Our short-term target this year is to bring in an additional 30 more applications of MM2H a month,” says Wang.

“Currently we already do 30 applications a month. The average price of properties we target to sell to Chinese investors is between RM1mil and RM2mil.

“In fact, some of them are cash purchasers, so we encourage them to take a 50% loan, so that they can buy two units instead of one; one to stay in, and one for investment.”

“We will focus on KL city properties followed by Johor Baru and Penang,” says Wang.


“Johor Baru is like Shenzhen to Hong Kong. It has a link road and ferry to Singapore, and in the future an MRT link too.”

“Penang is good for those who have stayed in Malaysia for a while. Some clients come to KL, but eventually choose Penang because of the food and the environment, where you can have a sea-facing property.”

In terms of property type, CBD mainly promotes new condos within the city.

“Compared to secondary properties, transactions are easier and more straightforward; developers also offer interesting and easy entry packages.”

Is the grass greener?

Just why are Malaysian properties so attractive to Chinese investors though? Are they so rich that not having enough property to buy at home is a problem?

“Yes, Chinese people really do have money,” Fu asserts. Consultants McKinsey & Co named China the fourth-largest population of wealthy households earning more than US$36,500 (RM116,00) a year, about RM10,000 a month. Boston Consulting Group expects Chinese households earning between US$20,000 and US$1mil to double to 280 million by 2020, meanwhile.

“These Chinese buy branded goods,” says Fu.

“Over the past few years, the money flows out from China as the Chinese are limited to buying two units of property in China per family. The Chinese have a high-level of savings, so this money will move out of the country.

“Secondly, Chinese like to buy property; that’s their culture.”

Indeed, the majority of MM2H applicants are not silver-haired retirees looking for a place to spend their golden years. Many are actually aged below 50 years old and motivated less by warmer climates or cheaper costs.

“Because of the economic boom, a lot of young people in China have become very wealthy and once they get the money, they look into is a change of lifestyle and status,” adds Wang.

“Migration is one of the ideal plans for them, or maybe to have a second residency status. The first target is maybe the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Singapore, but the foreign stamp duty in Singapore is 18% while in Hong Kong, it’s 15%. This makes Chinese investors look to Malaysia.

“The distance to Australia and New Zealand, meanwhile, is far and their food is not suitable to the Chinese. Malaysia is only four hours’ flight away. When they come here, they can speak Cantonese or Mandarin, so they will adapt easily.”

Chinese residents also become more receptive after Chinese developers investing here conduct promotional campaigns back home.

This increases the number of Chinese tourists here. They come and see that this country is beautiful, stable, with no natural disasters and clean air.

“Although this has not been true these particular few days,” says Wang wryly, referring to the recent haze.

“The education is also very good in Malaysia,” he adds. “China has a one-child policy and parents want their children to have better education. So Malaysia is a good stepping stone to learn English before going to UK or Australia.”

Huge investments

On the developer side, one of China’s biggest, Country Garden (Holdings) Ltd, has joined forces with local developer Malaysia Properties Land Sdn Bhd (Mayland) to develop townships in Rawang and Kajang.

It also bought 22.26ha of land at Danga Bay in Johor Baru for RM900mil last year, to develop a RM18bil commercial complex with a marina and hotel there.

Chinese firm Guangxi Beibu International Port Group has also partnered with IJM Corporation Bhd in a RM3bil investment to deepen and expand Kuantan port.

This will lead to more investments totalling RM5bil to build steel, aluminium and palm oil plants in Kuantan Industrial Park, part of the planned East Coast Economic Region.

On the academic front, China’s Xiamen university will open a campus in Salak Tinggi in 2015, with plans to enrol over 3,000 Chinese nationals.

There is yet more Sino-Malaysian business to be tapped, believes Hope CBD.

“Chinese developers are actually our major source of income,” says Lo.

“We assist Chinese developers to source land in Malaysia, and provide consultancy services for the Chinese developers when they have gotten land in Malaysia.”

Fears

With all these investments, one local reaction might be that of fear. What if these foreigners squeeze us out and make prices unaffordable for the rest of us? In fact, the Johor state government recently announced special property taxes for foreign property owners.

Americans and Europeans have for some time also been concerned about China’s economic dominance. Polite chatter has been underscored by a disdain for, and yet dependence on, China’s overwhelming bounty of cheap products made by overly competitive Chinese.

Malaysians are in comparison familiar.

“The advantage of working here is evident,” says Fu.

“All of us seated here, for example, are Chinese. There are cultural similarities between the two countries. When CBD went over to China, without speaking much, I realised that they are Chinese.”

It isn’t surprising then that the inauguration ceremony feels more like a diplomatic occasion than the typical launch. His measured tones suggest a renewal of ties between countrymen separated for generations; they kindle a sense of history and kinship.

Even though many Chinese on the mainland are being facilitated by this new cross-border agency’s services, will all Chinese feel the same about all this wealth moving, nay fleeing, out of their country? Are things equally warm and fuzzy on the other side of the fence?

“It’s nothing to worry about,” assures Fu. A lot of people are still creating wealth in China. And due to the borderless economy, the money surely flows out of the country, if not to Malaysia, it is to places like US.”

China’s wealth has also come with its pros and cons, says Fu. If the money didn’t flow out of the country, the inflation rate would only get higher.

“This flow of money is actually mutual,” says Fu. “There is some money flowing into China as well. The profit made in Malaysia, for example, will flow back to China for spending so, really, we should have an open mind towards the money flows.”
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I'm just reposting postings from an ASEAN forum... and cut short the rest, except the China article that was in the papers today. Of very lately, there has been alot of foreigners' trying to seek deals in Malaysia.

Right now at the corporate level, there are some interesting deals involving foreign high end hoteliers coming into KL market such as the Fairmont and Swissotel combo ala Raffles City Singapore for KLCC - they often cite:

- a booming tourism business and an optimistic projection of tourism numbers in coming years,

- many locals are starting to attract foreign investments in our local real estate... before this, only 3% of property buyers are foreigners,

- increasing wealth of population and the doubling high net worth individuals in 3 years time (an article on Bloomberg this morning mentioned the same for Malaysians),

- property potential as Malaysian properties especially rentals have been a laggard in ASEAN over last 3 years despite the convincing economic growth

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 12 2013, 01:20 PM)
Sure, property market in malaysia is invincible, under weight and under price, beam the price to a greater height  thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxms.gif
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I didnt say that and would disagree with that perception... but I know is your sarcasm. Hahaha.

Malaysian rakyat salaries are low and the property prices have gone beyond our levels. The median say our income is RM5,000+ but the same average is only around RM2,800 - which means whole lotsa people are trapped in the low salaries bracket whereas the higher income guys are earning higher and higher. I myself too are trapped in this low-income bracket.

Higher income guys are the ones buying properties nowadays (and they are the ones holding up well so far) and once their properties are completed, the rich guys are trying to rent out to the lower income guys but the sad truth is the lower income guys cannot cover the expected rentals because their salaries remained low.

We have a situation where there are alot of rich investors and rich flippers but very few very few "rich" tenants.

Primary market will still do well to some extent, as long as we have enough rich investors and rich flippers to play around complemented with the positive sentiments from the government economic plans, the macroeconomy, the "domestic demand", the recovery overseas and the stock markets (tested all time high today?).

In the mainstream media, the government has begun advertising "Visit Malaysia 2014" - a global campaign aimed at boosting Malaysia's profile internationally next year. The campaign also now includes the potential spillover effect on attracting foreigners to invest in Malaysia.

We just cannot afford any bubble now...
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 12 2013, 03:07 PM)
Lowly pay job in the u.s. can take home $20k to $30k per year, could buy a sub $200k 100m2 house. Malaysia apartment price is still very cheap in comparison.
VM 2014 will create a huge demand for service apartment and condo in klcc  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Unfortunately, the demand is more visible for budget hotels. There's like few thousand buildings and shops in KL town now converting into budget hotels. Another thing is massage parlours... hahaha
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Jul 14 2013, 04:31 PM)
My circle of friends still bullish abt props, esp iskandar area........ Follow by KL (inner kl, just outside of CBD)
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Just curious... mind sharing the prospects of Iskandar?
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A recent meeting amongst economist has already point to the robust growth for most ASEAN economies this year. Some may fare much better than last year as you might already know countries like Philippines and Singapore are lifting their projection upwards.

Malaysia will just hang on in the very right place.



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Singstat Reports Singapore's GDP up 3.7% in Q2 2013 Y-O-Y
July 12, 2013
http://www.singstat.gov.sg/news/press_rele...dvgdp2q2013.pdf

Singapore Q2 GDP surges 3.7% yoy
Business Times Singapore | July 12, 2013
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/breaking-n...37-yoy-20130712

Singapore GDP Surges 15.2% On Quarter In Q2  (this is a quarter-to-quarter growth)
July 13, 2013
http://www.rttnews.com/2149733/singapore-g...spx?type=alleco

Singapore Q2 GDP growth strongest in over two years
The Malaysian Insider | July 12, 2013
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...-over-two-years
There are alot of people that are gonna invest in Malaysian properties this year as well. As you might already know, the mainstream media has reported that the Govt is considering several new liberalisation on the real estate sector to allow foreign insitutional buying.

Malaysian private sector have proposed several new inftrastructure plans to the Cabinet soon. The latest news is Warisan Merdeka will be ground-breaking soon as I think they just had Rule 5 meeting regarding the public protests and had overcome it quite reasonably well. TQ.

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Buy property for own stay... there are still many people who can just barely afford and had not owned any real property. Let them buy to stay as they had to do so.

We have to be mindful that Malaysian rental yields are dropping and I would say that target market in the future is mostly yielding between 1-3% only. I know not many old timer investor could accept such low yield.
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jul 17 2013, 07:12 PM)
If yield in Msia is moving towards 1-3%..... Investors will sooner or later starts to accept it.... And most likely the interest rate will goes down even lower.....  drool.gif  drool.gif
Good time to refinance prop......  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Depends really... for now, I think the interest rate is heading upwards to control inflation and also a regional trend. Ringgit is depreciating against the USD after Fed's comments. Notty Fed.

Property market is just one part of the economy, not too essential for the politicians as of now. I believe there are many other important issues too, and I guess policymakers as well as BNM are just monitoring closely for now (and I think the best decision is to remain at status quo).

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QUOTE(agentdiary @ Jul 17 2013, 09:31 PM)
robust growth this year? hahaha

do you have any ideal what BNM inject last 5 months to stabilize the market for your robust ideal? if you know as you claim meeting with economist, isn't it contradict to your robust claim? or you have no ideal what BNM really doing recently?

i will tell you if you ask.
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There is a difference in monetary and fiscal policies there.

As far as macroeconomy is concerned, the Corporates and Banks expect Malaysia to report a relatively robust average 5% in GDP. This is to justify the momentum going forward with the ETP Plans and Iskandar Malaysia and also the Economic Corridors we have. (btw the construction sector growth of between 18% to 25% y-o-y, is averagingly able to offset all the declines in other sectors, if any would to happen)

A very simple fact finder is: (1) our Q1 FDI is amongst the highest we ever got in the first quarter of a year (2) automobile sales is expected to hit another record (3) healthy growth in loans (4) stock market is high (5) liquidity is high (6) construction is the prime mover of the economy now (7) big retailers being the prime mover of retail sales are performing relatively well.

I'm an economic student, by the way. smile.gif

Btw, according to latest infographics from ASEAN finance, Malaysia has surpassed US$300 billion economy (GDP nominal). If momentum goes well, we could achieve a leap in GDP per capita this year.

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QUOTE(agentdiary @ Jul 17 2013, 09:45 PM)
suggest you to print your own comment and magnate to your fridge until 1st Jan 2014.
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Don't worry about that... it is part of my job anyway. (if anything would to happen, it will be beyond Jan 2014, coz we are already halfway there)

At the end of the day, it all comes down whether how much confidence you have in the Malaysian economy (cut the politics away). As a Malaysian, and as a DAP supporter, I still think our country is heading towards the right direction now that DAP has a bigger voice.

It is also interesting to note that Malaysia will become a 30 millionth population country very soon. (Our population has crossed 29.6 million in the latest data from Statistics Department)

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