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 V11 - Property Prices Discussion, Intelligent debates only pls

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post Jun 12 2013, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jun 12 2013, 08:59 PM)
Well said. +1mil
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I've watched this thread for a while now. Some people really need to look in the mirror.
Calling people waterfish and saying they deserve it because they are crony and it's karma is so ironic.

Why does a crony deserve it? Because he's corrupted? Well by accepting this crony's money he has tainted himself too because he knowingly accepted corruption money and by default is supporting corruption.

It's like knowing someone stole a car and you buy the car off him real cheap and claim 'the thief deserves the low price cos he's a thief'

Karma baby! Dirty money is now in your life forever no matter how many props you buy with it rclxms.gif
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post Jul 3 2013, 05:17 PM

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Humm he was just messing with you.
Just play along la! Or stop responding. Easy.
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post Jul 6 2013, 01:19 PM

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Either prices come down a bit or developers will reduce specs
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post Jul 7 2013, 09:38 AM

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Malaysians seem to have difficulty grasping irony and sarcasm LOL
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post Jul 10 2013, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Jul 10 2013, 12:34 PM)
600,000 Y for 3 sqm
600,000 Y for 32 sq ft
18,587 Y psf
RM 580 psf

Hmmm.... how many properties here already hit the price?... especially those developed in no-man's land...

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I thought it was USD600k?
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post Jul 10 2013, 03:50 PM

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Simply put, property prices went up because of credit. Take that away or limit its accessibility and you will see what happens.

You see as car prices rose, so did the hire purchase tenure. My parents laugh at todays generation paying 9 years for a car.

These have little to do with young people earning more.

We have always had high paying professionals in the country. Its nothing new. But theyre not the majority, far from it in fact.
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post Jul 10 2013, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(cheraspeople @ Jul 10 2013, 09:08 PM)
It is still not a wise choice when u take 9 yrs loan and yet only used the car for 2 years (3 cars in 6 years) but paid for 9 years interest. In fact in many cases people going for 9 years loan is because they simply can't afford higher repayment. Anyway, i won't laugh at those people because it is bad to look down on people.
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Nah its not laughing at people, they just find the whole situation so ridiculous yet people now accept it as the norm. Different gen - what can we say? In their time, four years was too long. Kidmad you're very fortunate to be able to settle early. I think the majority out there cant - they just move from one car loan to another.
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post Jul 11 2013, 03:09 PM

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^agree esp on the income vs credit growth. People will argue that they know how to manage their finances smartly but yeah, not everyone is that clever esp if theyre trading on emotions and herd mentality. And on KL prices still cheap compared to HK, SG etc - of course ler our salaries are also cheaper.
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post Jul 11 2013, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jul 11 2013, 05:06 PM)
Sorry but I have to pick on your statement again. Not everyone is trading or investing. Most of them are buying so that they could have a place to call home. What's the % of homes build and freshies coming out from college today? Was it 2:1 or was it just nice for all of us? We have not consider yet some rich uncle/untie who could walk in and buy em by just pointing their magic fingers on the floor plan. Sometimes you have to see to believe... While I'm standing by the side listening to the sales rep about the project.. the fellow beside me would just point and say I want this one, this one, this one...  shocking.gif

The price factor was debated quite sometime ago so I don't see a point to pick on it but as for being clever or not.. I find it amusing.. Do you really need to be clever before you can decide whether you want to buy a place for your own?
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Sorry too, i dont quite get your point here. Are you saying most buyers are true home owners? Or the market is being swept by uncles buying indiscrminately?

My 'clever' statement referred to what happens in a herd mentality, nothing to do with wanting to buy your own home. Stop making connections that dont exist please. smile.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jul 11 2013, 11:42 PM)
Nomos please be specified with your herd mentality. From the way i see it there are only 2 group of ppl. 1 who is realistic struggling to own a property and settle down while the other group on the other hand are still dreaming that the property sector will burst anytime soon. Well i can't expect much from one who will laugh at me who took a 9 year loan for a Forte.  biggrin.gif  But either way my banking account and property speaks for itself. Not to mention the career path which i took and place me in a much comfortable zone. If tomorrow a recession do happen I'm pretty sure i can last a year or two without much problems but what about you? again the clever used by you refers to to the intelligent group who know how to use their money ain't it from your previous post? What I'm trying to tell you is just that it wasn't about being clever or otherwise but your goal in life had set to a different path as compared to others.

One who put so high hope on PRIMA and another who will laugh at ppl who take 9 year hire purchase loan.  biggrin.gif  To be honest deep down in my heart, it just show that you guys do not know how to play the game set by the government. Be it from BNM, the bank ruling or even any other investment link available. Continue to think inside the box and hope for the bubble to burst. Let's see where we end. Perhaps our open discussion should be made through a teh tarik session instead of behind the keyboard. I hope those who claim to be cash loaded and waiting for the right time are not ppl who rides kap chai or drive kancil with a mouth full loads of crap.

Again what's so good about PRIMA? Does it have an affordable price tag to begin with? If you have not realize yet.. the props within the region of rm300k were all being jack up partly because of PRIMA and partly ppl are diverting their cash flow from bonds, gold, stock market to property, fixed deposit and most likely the US dollar currency, partly because of the MRT project. From the way i see it the price tag will soon shoot up and match what we see in SINGAPORE.

Of course this could only be applicable in states like Penang, Johor, Selangor.. Cities like KL and KK. Again to those who keeps talking about what happen in the US in year 2007 crisis when they had a 20 - 25% dip in property price correction... Do you see this happening in New York? California? Miami? LA? did the dip happened in those hot spots in 2007?  laugh.gif  If you are not sure perhaps get to know someone who did lives in these metropolis/cities and see what will they tell you.
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Chill la bro. We all have different experiences and opinions. Maybe its best for you not to read too much into people's posts. After all there are various context that people dont bother to spell out in forums. As long as youre happy with your success thats good.

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post Jul 13 2013, 04:21 PM

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True, theres always a house out there that meets budget and basic practical needs. Just get what you can afford and move up from there.
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:09 AM

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I think higher rpgt is better as it doesnt hurt genuine home buyers. Of course for long holding power folks it wont really matter (whatever their reasons for buying).
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:44 AM

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True ^
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post Jul 16 2013, 03:23 PM

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The agent cant be grabbing everything good they see right? smile.gif
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post Jul 17 2013, 12:03 PM

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The analogies are getting more twisted.. Gotta love em lol

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