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 V11 - Property Prices Discussion, Intelligent debates only pls

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post Jul 7 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Jul 7 2013, 01:04 PM)
But one thing for sure is by doing nothing, you are 100% safe.
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Wat bout inflation? Safe?
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post Jul 7 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Jul 7 2013, 02:38 PM)
Do nothing in property investment, you ll be 100% safe fr property bubble. If you park your money under the pillow, you wont safe fr inflation, but safe fr sleepless nightmare if market do crash. The nightmare fr property bubble if happened for sure worse thn worry on inflation. Judge your risk and appetite.
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But since some claimed uncles aunties buying (in another thread), I suppose they hav some bot many yrs ago either for own stay or investment. Eg. Many shops in telawi belong to buyers who bot them many yrs ago. Now enjoying healthy rental rate and most likely debt free. Lets assume market now crash and telawi really drop by half the price fr the very peak, do u agree tat tis grp of ppl wont get hurt. 1 thg I'm sure is those financially weak flippers ll definitely get it. Seasoned investors ll not really care too much. Tats my guess onli.

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post Jul 7 2013, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Jul 7 2013, 11:16 PM)
bro,
how to drop if no one selling at discounted price at telawi  tongue.gif
Good thing buying establish area even buying at premium price is there is very less likely force sellers as most of them sitting on huge +ve cashflow.
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So u oso agree on loc is important? ?? Well some might not think so.
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post Jul 7 2013, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Jul 7 2013, 11:30 PM)
I place timing in front of location  whistling.gif
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If buy every yr, timing is not tat important anymore. Just like montly standing instruction for unit trust. The return most likely higher than a 1 off buy.

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post Jul 7 2013, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Jul 7 2013, 11:53 PM)
yes, this is one way balance(up & down) it along the way. This way really workable the last 6/7years with big effects but if you do it longer, you will know. Sometime it is better use buy lesser as it go up and buy more went it go down method.
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Icic. Pls share the best tactic to define when is up when is down. I reckon its not as easy as abc. But I'm sure there must b a way. Mind to elaborate? ??

Thanks
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post Jul 8 2013, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Jul 8 2013, 12:12 AM)
haha...very subjective wor.
Let said, if Serdang area factory brought last 3-5years ago. now  drool.gif & still hot hot
If PJ uptown area, how to enter now wor. either pay premium high price or watch & wait.
Bdr Puteri Puchong shoplot, u dare masuk or not? tongue.gif

All is my personal opinions, dun tembak me later  laugh.gif
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Gd sharing boss.
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post Jul 8 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(sayo @ Jul 8 2013, 08:43 AM)
sokong..sokong...somehow, for most of us waiting for softenng of the market, i ponder with "nervousness"...is it maybe a new paradigm which a lot of us cannot accept ....like how we use to say this place ulu and all and price is unaceptable, but later turn out to be "ong" after few years...and it became norm...

but I think realistically holding power for this batch of new properties( tier 1/2 areas) will be there cause buyers bought it at 250-400 which bank repayments are reasonable. These handed over properties have risen to between 500-900k today. ...But the next batch (flippers /investors) which entered the market within these past year ...well..maybe will face a different scenario. hmm.gif
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The buyers today hav to made some adjustment to their mentality tat props bot recently are mainly to hedge against inflation without great appreciation. Of cos if compare to the equity market which perform pretty well, props seems a lil under performing. But if holding power allowed, just keep til the next bull run. Maybe after 2018?!? Noone knows. Treat it as a force saving if hav spare cash. tongue.gif
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post Jul 10 2013, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(HeartRock_Cafe @ Jul 10 2013, 12:59 AM)
+1
10% drop can't even cover the exit & entry cost  cool2.gif
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But the cheerful thg is most ddd predicted a downward adjustment of more than tat. Tats y the waiting game is nvr ending and buying game nvr started for some.
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post Jul 10 2013, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Dern @ Jul 10 2013, 10:42 PM)
can i ask something ? and why is the "waititng game" sounds so anxious to you or all the UUU people(since all of you "already owns tonnes of properties) ? it's like you "worry for others"...as you know many people are selfish by nature, what makes you different ? ONLY property agents behave and talk "such way". or maybe these days flippers or desperate investors perhaps.... laugh.gif
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Haha gd guess. Keep it up. Gd day boss.
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post Jul 10 2013, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Dern @ Jul 10 2013, 11:15 PM)
it's a QUESTION. if you have the balls to say iy out, hopefully you have the balls to give answer...else that is simply thrash talk.
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Let it b thrash. Sori for tat.
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post Jul 11 2013, 09:36 AM

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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bernanke-...07-10-171033059

Gd news or bad news???
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post Jul 12 2013, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jul 11 2013, 11:51 PM)
That is how the whole world works anyway
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Boss tis part is wrong. Tats how the be end works.

In aus they can kick their pm to back room if rakyat dun think he/she fits to carry out the duty in a proper way. But in bolehland, gov ll make sure whoeva goes against them go to jail or disappear. How scary vmad.gif

Or they ll just giv an option, eg kalu tak suka boleh belah. drool.gif


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post Jul 12 2013, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jul 12 2013, 04:45 PM)
Unfortunately, the demand is more visible for budget hotels. There's like few thousand buildings and shops in KL town now converting into budget hotels. Another thing is massage parlours... hahaha
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I think bad to take note is robbers r now starting to target massage parlours. Wonder when ll mata take proper action to punish them.
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post Jul 13 2013, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Jul 13 2013, 06:59 AM)
Or girls, just marry a rich guy.
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Boss tis part dun agree lo. Kenot b sexist wan. Nowadays many boys married to rich guy's daughters. Many rich men in malaysia hav onli 2 or 3 kids n some onli hav daughters. So many guys like to seek opportunities around tis grp of high profile gals. And if lucky, get married with those gals and no worries bout life Liao. Beta than work hard to b a gigolo. drool.gif brows.gif

Just joking nia. Dun shoot dun shoot. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 13 2013, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Jul 13 2013, 07:29 AM)
Hahaha..see if the girls want to shoot. Hey got a lot of rich guys in low yat property forum here. Any of u girls?
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Wat bout separuh masak??? Kekeke.
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(axisresidence17 @ Jul 13 2013, 03:40 PM)
So DDD or UUU? Ive sold my studio flat and already put deposit for another flat. Its easy to sell after price adjustment and I regret selling. But I need to upgrade to bigger place. So go on with the purchase or wait some more?
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Adjustment to up or down???
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post Jul 13 2013, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 13 2013, 11:22 PM)
Bro, I beg to differ. The thread has gone to 11th version, coming to V12. Those UUU camp seems to be right all this while. So the answer is quite clear (up to today)

Downturn will sure to arrive 1 day. Therefore those DDD camp will be right 1 day and say "I told you so". But when that day comes, it doesn't mean that the UUU camp is wrong for the last few years. For those who bought in 2009 for say, RM500k and the value is RM1m today (100% gain), even if the downturn cause the property price to go down 30% (RM700k), they still are making gain

There are many 1st home owners like debbie throughout the 11 version. Let's say debbie did ask in the 1st few version in 2009 whether she should buy or wait, and she takes the advice of DDD camp. She would have missed the opportunity on hindsight. Likewise, if she takes the advice of UUU camp, she could have made 100% gain and posting comments like the UUU camp here

So, let's just wipe out what happened for the past few years, and start all over again now. I would say the chance of the market going down is 50-50 only. Should debbie wait or buy ? She will be facing the same situation in 2009 when we have V1 - nobody knows the future. So, if I am first home buyer, I would buy whatever I could afford now and don't bother what will happen to the market (because up or down, I am not going to sell it anyway). It is a calculated risk I will take and the risk is just like the outcome of flipping a coin - 50% chance I will be right
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Lazy and hard to explain or share some genuine profitable cases. But after so many versions of market up, maybe after another few 10 versions up camp should giv way and let the I told u so take over.

So hav to rush to add another few 10 versions fr now on.

Cheer.
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post Jul 14 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jul 14 2013, 03:35 PM)
looks like this thread is filled with pessimist sentiments. Would appreciate if we all could share the actual experience during 2008 recession than rather sharing economy theory.
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Many shared. But later on ll b accused of boosting or being an agent trying to push the price up. So many now hav chosen not to voice out any experience. Instead let the opposition do the cut & paste. Let them do the study like nerds. And of cos some ll assume all details econ.com r 100% 1 sided.

Cheer.
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post Jul 14 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 14 2013, 03:45 PM)
I like your style !  thumbup.gif

Where ? Where ? Where got ? I don't see it !!
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Everywhere according to many negative minded people.
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post Jul 14 2013, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Jul 14 2013, 04:01 PM)
agreed many real investors dare not to speak anymore..we can only exchange ideas via PM, what a pity...
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Its ok. 2 sides of a coin. The other side is less ppl ll know so much bout the tricks. Hence less competition gua.

Of cos many ll start claiming tat up camp ppl know lil and they themselves know too much. Of cos with all the articles and charts.

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