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post May 30 2013, 08:08 PM, updated 13y ago

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Currently the developer install something like this for the valve opening for shower rain as follows

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The tap with the blue dot in the middle.

My questions is:

1. Is it that this type is most likely with piping top and bottom (in the wall)?

2. Is it possible to install something like this (from what I know this type has hot / cold water inlet)

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I need to prepare myself before I get chopped...
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post May 30 2013, 08:47 PM

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Can't. Because it need to connect between pipe in side
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post May 30 2013, 09:17 PM

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Ya.. Haiz... Have to live with it... So really cannot change to mixer type even though I only need the water to run through? Coz in the end the water outlet will go the heater which I am going to install...
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post May 30 2013, 09:48 PM

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Found this Grohe one online, but I think it will cost me an arm and a leg... Any ideas how much it cost...
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post May 30 2013, 11:30 PM

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have the issue with you; recently redid my bathroom, and saw this random tap near my new shower set, exact same one as yours. If I had known, would have told contractor to place it at a different location where its not so obvious. Now have to live with this eyesore every time i shower.
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post May 30 2013, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(eggplants @ May 30 2013, 11:30 PM)
have the issue with you; recently redid my bathroom, and saw this random tap near my new shower set, exact same one as yours. If I had known, would have told contractor to place it at a different location where its not so obvious. Now have to live with this eyesore every time i shower.
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Shocked when I saw this... LoL!...

Anyway, I have a hard time finding this... I think the my house's developer is using NEU series produced by DOE...
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post May 30 2013, 11:52 PM

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Btw, the correct term for this is 'stop cock'... I juz realised...
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post May 30 2013, 11:56 PM

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Stop cock term is use to stop the incoming water to a specified section like the entire toilet.

But your is use to switch on the shower? than it should be called water pipe valve.

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post May 31 2013, 12:04 AM

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The two higher "tab" my contractor use the term stop cock. This type better use the conventional rubber to control the valve. The tap are using Ceramic valvel.

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post May 31 2013, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 30 2013, 11:56 PM)
Stop cock term is use to stop the incoming water to a specified section like the entire toilet.

But your is use to switch on the shower? than it should be called water pipe valve.
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Coz I saw it here: http://www.doe.com.my/products.asp?cat1id=...d=93&cat3id=284

N it says stop cock.. lol... I managed to find a few from a website... I juz wonder what the correct size of the inlet? 1/2 inch or 3/4 inch?
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post May 31 2013, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ May 31 2013, 12:04 AM)
Coz I saw it here: http://www.doe.com.my/products.asp?cat1id=...d=93&cat3id=284

N it says stop cock.. lol... I managed to find a few from a website... I juz wonder what the correct size of the inlet? 1/2 inch or 3/4 inch?
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Is just the term, the valve can use to control shower, or water flow to entire area.
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post May 31 2013, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 31 2013, 12:04 AM)
The two higher "tab" my contractor use the term stop cock. This type better use the conventional rubber to control the valve. The tap are using Ceramic valvel.

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I see I see... There is another stop cock in my bathroom and it is up high...
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post May 31 2013, 12:09 AM

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This valve destroys the overall aesthetical look of the bathroom... As I can change all the taps, except this... Argh!
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post May 31 2013, 12:10 AM

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what is the difference between stop cock and water pipe valve?
sounds like the same thing; used to stop any water from going to the shower.

i would also like to find a less ugly and more minimal tap fitting for it if price is decent.
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post May 31 2013, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(eggplants @ May 31 2013, 12:10 AM)
what is the difference between stop cock and water pipe valve?
sounds like the same thing; used to stop any water from going to the shower.

i would also like to find a less ugly and more minimal tap fitting for it if price is decent.
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Grohe biggrin.gif
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post May 31 2013, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(eggplants @ May 31 2013, 12:10 AM)
what is the difference between stop cock and water pipe valve?
sounds like the same thing; used to stop any water from going to the shower.

i would also like to find a less ugly and more minimal tap fitting for it if price is decent.
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Is actually the same, but when you tell shop about stop cock, they usually give you not so nice looking and rubber valve. The water pipe valve got more design and can can have ceramic valve which only need 1/2 turn to switch off or on.
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post May 31 2013, 12:13 AM

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post May 31 2013, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 31 2013, 12:13 AM)
Is actually the same, but when you tell shop about stop cock, they usually give you not so nice looking and rubber valve. The water pipe valve got more design and can can have ceramic valve which only need 1/2 turn to switch off or on.
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So the best one is ceramic valve?
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post May 31 2013, 12:15 AM

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By the way, does it matter if it is a 1/2 inch or a 3/4 inch?
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post May 31 2013, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ May 31 2013, 12:11 AM)
Grohe  biggrin.gif
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haha, too ex. I'm using local brand Sorento for the shower; and get a Grohe for the stopcock?!

QUOTE(weikee @ May 31 2013, 12:13 AM)
Is actually the same, but when you tell shop about stop cock, they usually give you not so nice looking and rubber valve. The water pipe valve got more design and can can have ceramic valve which only need 1/2 turn to switch off or on.
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oh ok. in a house, normally the location of these is hidden right? or placed low near the floor so it isn't obvious.
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post May 31 2013, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ May 31 2013, 12:14 AM)
So the best one is ceramic valve?
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Reliable is the rubber valve. Ceramic not so.
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post May 31 2013, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ May 31 2013, 12:15 AM)
By the way, does it matter if it is a 1/2 inch or a 3/4 inch?
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Pipe size.
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post May 31 2013, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(eggplants @ May 31 2013, 12:17 AM)
haha, too ex. I'm using local brand Sorento for the shower; and get a Grohe for the stopcock?!
oh ok. in a house, normally the location of these is hidden right? or placed low near the floor so it isn't obvious.
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Depend where the incoming. If up, stop cock will be on top, if bottom stop cock will be on the bottom.
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post May 31 2013, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ May 31 2013, 12:15 AM)
By the way, does it matter if it is a 1/2 inch or a 3/4 inch?
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It is the pipe size and the tap, stop cok etc joint size. If you buy the plumping parts, you need to tell them the pipe joint size.

For rule of thumb, main inlet till tank is 3/4". While those toilet and kitchen is 1/2".
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post May 31 2013, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 31 2013, 09:08 AM)
It is the pipe size and the tap, stop cok etc joint size. If you buy the plumping parts, you need to tell them the pipe joint size.

For rule of thumb, main inlet till tank is 3/4". While those toilet and kitchen is 1/2".
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So does it mean that this stop cock in my bathroom (first posting) is 3/4" since it controls the valve for the water tank?

I suppose I can remove the stop cock knob cover cap (the one with blue dot in the middle) and replace with a nicer looking cover cap?
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post May 31 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ May 31 2013, 11:02 PM)
So does it mean that this stop cock in my bathroom (first posting) is 3/4" since it controls the valve for the water tank?

I suppose I can remove the stop cock knob cover cap (the one with blue dot in the middle) and replace with a nicer looking cover cap?
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The water coming to your toilet from the water tank is call outlet. Which mostly is using 1/2" pipe. While from the meter outside to the water tank is 3/4" pipe.

The stop cock in your bathroom is to stop the water coming to the toilet tap. Since the pipe is coming from the tank and to your toilet, it is an outlet pipe. And size 1/2".

You cannot simply replace the knob. Each brand have it own design. Each brand can replace back it own brand parts. Unless those common parts. Ex. rubber washer.

Maybe those expensive type like grohe, kohler etc have an option to change the cover and knob design. But still have to using back it own brand.

So you have to hack it out and replace the whole stop cock.
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post Jun 1 2013, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 31 2013, 11:28 PM)
The water coming to your toilet from the water tank is call outlet. Which mostly is using 1/2" pipe. While from the meter outside to the water tank is 3/4" pipe.

The stop cock in your bathroom is to stop the water coming to the toilet tap. Since the pipe is coming from the tank and to your toilet, it is an outlet pipe. And size 1/2".

You cannot simply replace the knob. Each brand have it own design. Each brand can replace back it own brand parts. Unless those common parts. Ex. rubber washer.

Maybe those expensive type like grohe, kohler etc have an option to change the cover and knob design. But still have to using back it own brand.

So you have to hack it out and replace the whole stop cock.
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I see... So for Malaysia pipe standard is for 1/2" inside e house.

Is it that for 1/2" inch, the female thread diameter in all wadever water tap or valve is about 21mm? The reason why I am asking is that I would like to purchase tap fittings from overseas and their standard is G 1/2".
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post Jun 1 2013, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Jun 1 2013, 12:24 AM)
I see... So for Malaysia pipe standard is for 1/2" inside e house.

Is it that for 1/2" inch, the female thread diameter in all wadever water tap or valve is about 21mm? The reason why I am asking is that I would like to purchase tap fittings from overseas and their standard is G 1/2".
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Pipe plumbing is normally in inch. Female or male thread, just mention what inch you want. There is no mix of inch and mm. G or NPT is either straight thread or taper thread.

 

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