Come on just refund ts money. Dont wait any longer he has been very patient n kind to wait fr you. Even your lawyer friend said shud refund so follow his advice its better fr both sides. Its not worth sacrificing your future and credibility over 1400. If you were in ts place u will wish to get your money soon also right. 

You havw been defending yourself n explaining you r innocent. We all want to believe you r innocent n not wrong so just return ts money.  You will feel much bettr n happy wen u return his money n everyone will see tgwt you r w nice and innocent guy

so bside last two msg without two tick: d calculation n i ask wher hav u been. u knw i want cod wit u rite? or u want me post dat pic? but bside those tick, does it mean u ady contact cod wit me or refund? u jez reply tis useless question, does it mean anythg? do u knw wat is important now? 1 thg. REFUND! i dun want deal any biz wit u anymor, im so afraid i wil b d 2nd d3v073d_50uL get 2nd hand tab.

the middle person is amrit gill rite? or do u mind i post his pic here?

Thanks for being so concern bro.. Check back the explanation I have return. My lawyer friend said at least he should be entitled 50% refund..

Thanks for being so concern bro.. Check back the explanation I have return. My lawyer friend said at least he should be entitled 50% refund..

Only 50 percent only??? That's not really nice you shud give 100% , its your duty as a seller or middle man to be responsible with your actions, if you can't even remember your customers stop doing business n stop selling stuff , its really shocking that you don't remember when so much money is at stake plus your disorganized way of doing things is your fault, you shud hav called ts no matter what

Thanks for being so concern bro.. Check back the explanation I have return. My lawyer friend said at least he should be entitled 50% refund..

I seriously doubt that he has a lawyer. Please do get a copy of the statement letter from your lawyer and post it here. Until then i would suggest a dispute tag on rajurajz and a uniform ban on all his dupes until this case is settled. Apis_LuaLua

Okay... seeing that rajurajz didn't msg / call / contact me on my matter... it's time for me to add another case on him :]

This case is not the same as TS.. but sorta an 'extension' of it...

Based on the same thread as TS.. i also order 3 sets.. and deposit 1.4k for it...
So.. based on the part...

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I already asked him to settle things with C... but not sure if he done that yet.. both of them never contacted me back...

So.. since my deal is originally with rajurajz and not with C/GhostRecon ... it's normal for him to settle the case.. right?

Did he refund your money???

It has been a long time since i got the message that im in the dispute again ?

and based on the story given by our brother michael cool its maybe right maybe wrong on some of ur guys opinions.

but, hearing story based on 1 side is worth it ?

on the day when, ts called me and said that he is interested and wants to buy the tabs and also said he want to deal via cod in ipoh, i said okay bro ill message u my acc number. then right away i called another guy who also ordered 3 sets same as ts`s order and told him that bro im sorry i cancel ur deal because got stock problem, and i refunded him 1.4k. because he wanted to deal via postage and ts wanted to deal via cod.

on the deal day, when ts`s friend suppose to turn up at jusco ipoh around 5pm as said by ts in the call, she didnt i waited there till 9pm and deal almost with around 20+ people including my suppliers customer and cleared all the stock left was the 3 tabs that was ordered my ts. from the 3 sets 1 was faulty that i going to explain to him. i waited and waited, not even a sms or call from ts. you all may be wondering why i never call or sms him ? I deal with almost like 20+ people and from different different numbers and how do u expect me to remember ts`s number ? i clearly told him the date and explain about him about the tabs on the phone call that ts gave me to deal he clearly agreed and transferred the funds. if he didnt agree why he would even transfer the funds ?

and now this thing came up till this level.

and the 3 stocks wasnt mine so i cant keep the stocks at all in my hand. i waited 3 days till ts will return call ? but he didnt. and he messaged me after 4-5 days asking about the stocks.

the stocks if i would have kept i surely kept already, ts gave me 1.4k for the stock as a deposit not as a full amount.. if it was a full amount i would have gave to ts on the day he messaged me by asking any of my friend to pass to his location in ipoh.

if u bank in deposit and dont collect the item by the date given surely there is no refund will be made. correct me if im wrong ?

as i asked my supplier last he told me he cant refund the explanation is there already why there is no refund, so i gave Rm150 as a refund because i never take any profit from my supplier im just helping him to sell it out only..

im trying to get for ts 50% refund because i know the feeling of loosing money, i have been conned so many times but i never had the intention to con any1. maybe there is some complain about me, but there is no con case complain about me othere then this 1..

even once apis lua lua made a mistake and said that onitsukalover is a genuine seller, but i still got conned by him and i never reported against apis lua lua neither against onitsukalover. i just pray that it wont happen to any1 else again. and i got conned again by silkhinaz same amount that i got conned by onitsukalover. but still i pray again that it wont happen to any1 else. thenobone helped me quite alot but still i never got any amount of my money back from these guys..

now when im in trouble because of some onces own mistake i dont know any other way to solve these case. i even called ts lets meet up in police station and explain about each other infront of the officer and lets see what conclusion he comes up with ?  and to be honest i already ask advice from a lawyer, he is the 1 i know when my friend had some case, i told him everything and showed him these dispute also, he only advised to get ts back 50% of refund, because there is a minor mistake of mine to inside.

Let me correct you then. No. A deposit is a security for completing a transaction, and to "burn" a deposit you either must have an agreed, written contract and showed good faith in completing the transaction. You not calling is already a bad faith.

You yourself couldn't fulfil the transaction since you also admitted that 1 set was faulty. Again, bad faith and this already contravenes section 16 of the Akta Perlindungan Pengguna.

Let me correct you then. No. A deposit is a security for completing a transaction, and to "burn" a deposit you either must have an agreed, written contract and showed good faith in completing the transaction. You not calling is already a bad faith.

You yourself couldn't fulfil the transaction since you also admitted that 1 set was faulty. Again, bad faith and this already contravenes section 16 of the Akta Perlindungan Pengguna.

Bro just give the ts back 1400 , you ,I and everyone knows deep inside that it is the right thing to do, and if you were the ts then you will also ask the same. Don't bring your lawyer fren into this, initially you did not set any conditions stating the forfeiture of a deposit in the event that the buyer fails to call you nor did ts agree to any conditions written or not so your terms do not apply, you cannot just implement your own rules , if that's the case then ts has the right to also get back his money if no goods are delivered as you did not call him regardless of whether you forget or remember , you should have investigated who didn't come as 20+ people isnt a lot unless if its a hundred people . If you cannot remember 20 names then how can you work in an office where the responsibility is bigger, or if you own your own ship how can u run a business when you cannot handle this small number of transactions.

And I assume you are young according to what ts said earlier, ts has been kind enough not to reveal your details online . He can choose to do so but he is worried about your future , imagine if people tell your parents about this case and how will they feel??,your friends will protect you n ignore ts but deep down inside they won't trust you as much as they used to. Imagine if your address is revealed and in the future any new disputes might cause ppl to find you at your house or even your friends house with the police at your door, unlike other cases in low yat your details right down to your fb is known n that is really scary if you ask me, every single person will know who are you n will spread it, times hav changed now once your info is online chances are a huge amount of ppl know who n what you look like.

And come on la, over 1400???unless its one million ringgit or more than you will survive, That 1400 is small money compared to your future imagine not being able to find a job or getting promotions because of this case, you will lose more than 1400 , your name is worth more than 1400 , you will regret deeply if you don't refund the money n no one will make you regret but yourself only. Who knows if one day an fb page is created just to discredit your name and reveal all the details , you will be afraid of gong ur n meeting new people n making new friends as they will stay away fr you. If your boss knows abt it then its even worst , especially lowyat its such a big place with so many members la. Your address might be released and the police have no hard time looking,unlike other cases where they might do anything this one will be easy as they will know everything abt you, ts has nt reported so you r fine.............but if you who know what will happen , u might go to jail and ts has so much damaging evidence . You will not get anything from not refunding but everything to gain if you refund ts money. If you don't refund ts will lose only 1400 but you will lose everything fr respect ,trust, your future, career opportunities , potential friends , potential jobs promotions etc etc . So just refund it, who knows you might be a rich man in the future but only if you have a clean name. Think about it and stop delaying before ts reveals more , there will be no turning back once that happens and It will take more than 1400 to solve your future problems

I were suppose to inform him on the deal day that 1 set is faulty bro.. I got the sets on the deal day..

Bro, as i said if I had the funds with me surely I have done refund long time ago without any hassle.. But the problem now is what ever I told is been told by my supplier and it's correct also if u all consider back? In addition, we are dealing professionally don't tell me ts doesn't know the simple rules of getting his deposit burned.. Plus it was his mistake also bro.. He should have some courtesy to at least ask.. He called me back sharp 5 days after the deal day.. I could have talked with my supplier.. After 3 days my supplier disappear and continued his own work.. As about the lawyer part, c'mon guys I said I seek advice I didn't bought over any lawyer. I seek his advice because he has experience solving cases like these. In a professional deal there is such rules of deposit..

It does not matter. You promised three sets, if you can only provide two, that meant you were not able to fulfil your side of the bargain. You claimed deposit burn because supposedly the buyer didn't turn up, yet you yourself couldn't fulfil the agreement on the deal day, so you have no right to "burn" the deposit.

It can be said that you acted in bad faith in not calling the customer also to inform that you only have 2 working sets instead of three as promised. In any case, your action in not calling the customer also constitute bad faith.

You see, there is a legal saying - "Come to Court with Clean Hands." Your "alasan" that you have 20+ customer and you forget the thread starter's number will only reflect badly on you. What? You think the court or the tribunal will accept that you took someone's deposit and you conveniently forget the depositor's phone number? It either shows that you wish to cheat the TS or that you are a dangerously incompetent seller. Either way, again will reflect badly on you also.

Sorry, Thread Starter dealt with you. You took the money. The Thread Starter doesn't have any locus against the supplier, but the thread starter has locus against you. Your supplier hilang ka apa ka that is your problem. I repeat, your problem. Regardless, there is no such thing as rule of deposit that supersede the LAW of Malaysia, specifically the Akta Perlindungan Pengguna 1999, drafted just for cases like this.

In any case, you didn't show him any courtesy by not calling him anyway.

The sets wasn't a issue bro.. If ts turn up on cod day I had sets of other customer that I could give ts if he really argued regarding the sets..

AAAAhaa... that's what i told him before :]

The deal.. is between me (or us) with him... not with his friend.. or dealer or what...
So.. whatever happen to our money.. u got to be responsible...

U didn't expect us to follow each or all the people holding our money, right? :]