anyone on this ship...i jump in at rm3.520

5024 HUPSENG HUP SENG INDUSTRIES BHD
Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended 31/3/2013
Quarter: 1st Quarter
Financial Year End: 31/12/2013
Report Status: Unaudited
Submitted By: Ms Kerk Chian Tung

Current Year Quarter Preceding Year Corresponding Quarter Current Year to Date Preceding Year Corresponding Period
31/03/2013 31/03/2012 31/03/2013 31/03/2012
RM '000 RM '000 RM '000 RM '000
1 Revenue 59,873 61,794 59,873 61,794
2 Profit/Loss Before Tax 12,142 10,756 12,142 10,756
3 Profit/Loss After Tax and Minority Interest 8,904 8,018 8,904 8,018
4 Net Profit/Loss For The Period 8,904 8,018 8,904 8,018
5 Basic Earnings/Loss Per Shares (sen) 7.42 6.68 7.42 6.68
6 Dividend Per Share (sen) 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
As At End of Current Quarter As At Preceding Financial Year End
7 Net Tangible Assets Per Share (RM) 1.1700 1.2800

Im not in, by looking at the previous performance its kinda good counter to invest... But the only thing is, why the daily volume always low?... Maybe people nowaday dont like to eat biscuit... LOL

i like low volume counter..coz easy to shoot up and good for dividend...this stock i miss it at rm2.50 cash flow ...till now i just got know WANG WANG PRODUCT also is hupseng 1...

meeeeee

wah u banyak happy ah...

But low volume sometimes can be very dangerous especially when u plan to exit....

Nah



I entered at 3.21

Don't plan to exit, hold for dividends

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: May 27 2013, 01:26 PM

http://www.hupseng.com/cc.htm

mana ada Wang Wang

sat i just bought wang wang ....got hupseng logo

This post has been edited by Ladyfinger88: May 27 2013, 01:44 PM

I'll wait to see if it can break RM4, and then proceed further. Will hold for div, my target exit is after RM4. If can break, I will see if it can touch RM5, if very hard to break RM4.xx, then will consider exiting 50% and keep the remaining till it flies.

Jason, I hate to see your profile picture

Haha. Why? Not nice?

Monday always sleepy. When brain sleepy, the other "brain" often active

Anyway, when was the last time u top up on Ping Pong?

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: May 27 2013, 01:57 PM

My last stop for Ping Pong is still way below 2.20. Bought first batch last year below RM2, specifically around 1.8x range, if my memory serves me right. Never really get the accurate buy price due to my buy price always include overhead cost.

Wah, huat like pighead already

wow!nice entry

Unfortunately, I only have about RM10K investment in this counter. Due to low liquidity, I feel it can only be treated as dividend counter, at least to me, and I couldn't bother to check the price previously, until when it start to break 3.5x range recently.

10K ONLY

My "ONLY" counter is only RM1K++

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: May 27 2013, 02:04 PM

This counter is RM1K++? You buy in very small lots?

No, I meant my smallest holding counter is RM1K+, my biggest holding is ONLY RM6K+.

RM1K+ bcos I wanted to buy 3 lots, but only managed to match 1 lot during Trading At Last. Itu Carlsberg

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: May 27 2013, 02:07 PM

I think I was a bit lucky as after I bought my first batch, the price start to move a bit, then I got extra money and went in for final batch, and then suddenly price spike to 2.50 and move on after that, thus I don't think it's wise for me to top up anymore as my target dividend for this counter is just 18c.

Why nobody write about Apollo?

I got both Hupseng & Apollo

Pana jie jie,

U write lo

I was thinking to enter Apollo, long time, but finally did not. Budget constraint and now I feel the price is a bit on the high side.

Yes, current yield is only 4%+ at best, but their payout ratio is a lot lower than HUPSENG's. Got room for more

Comparison of Apollo vs Hupseng. AS of last year, Apollo has RM0.73 cash per share vs Hupseng of RM0.60 cash per share. Apollo might have EPS of 42c vs Hupseng of 30c. Maybe it's time to buy in Apollo?

u open thread la, tonite I share my financial analysis (EPS, divvy payout etc)

Awaiting pana to do it, then will spam

We have apollo thread here liao

Filled with spider webs

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1113799&hl=

today still lingering at 3.95....no movement...hopefully tomolo can have some action

We can make it move. I sell you 1 lot at RM4.10, then you sell it back to me RM4.30, and we do this few rounds, after a while, we will see Hupseng at RM6 or RM7.

Haha good idea...but I scared some pegecut...suddenly come out spoil our party

oi, ini marked meniipiulasyen

What is the average volume for HUPSENG? I think this one we are capable of goreng, if we work together. So, what do you guys think? We let go all at RM7 or RM8 if we see got small fish still want to buy.

very low, I think a few hundred lots at best

dun la rosakkan my best divvy counter

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: May 29 2013, 10:54 AM

Help you earn 100% capital gain leh.

After gain so much, I got too much money dunno how to spend

Prefer steady steady get divvy yearly

Calculated d. Still need at least 40K per day to play with it.

Steady div must only buy from REITS. But then again, 3 REITS I'm holding already paper profit 50% excluding div gain.

I prefer to buy and hold consumer stocks

3.98 liao...who wanna bring it beyond 4.00 tomorrow?

Dumped half at 5.26 and I thought that it's good enuff to lock up my profit

Mana tau closed at dizzying 5.70

Aww why sell? You can't buy back at your cost anymore ><

too bad we cannot predict price

Locking up my profit, moving to another stock which could also yield 5%+ with much smaller payout ratio, means room for special divvy.

I disposed (part) of my Ping Pong at 5.26
I THINK divvy per year would be 15 sen x 2
30 sen / 5.26 = 5.7%
And divvy payout ratio is about 98% if I'm not mistaken...growth of Ping Pong is only about 6-8% p.a. compounded I think. Further dividend growth limited?

60%++ paper gain...it somehow spooks me

Since I find alternatives to further diversify my portfolio, I chose to pull the trigger oops I mean click the "SELL" button

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Nov 15 2013, 05:19 PM

lol my mind is plain simple and I dislike maths & too much of analysing

and why spooked by 60% profit, hehe, I'm sure you've been thru much more than that I always like to dream big & let the profits roll.

No lar...this Ping Pong's 60% paper gain is my FIRST TIME EVER.

Take this chance to diversify lor...

Hehe well I suppose no profit is bad. Congratz anyway

If the stock fundamentals is still good why sell... unless you think the profits is reducing or the stock over value, then it is good to sell.

In stock investing it is better you aim for 'baggers' typically 10 baggers.... each bagger is a 100% gain.

Think big!

Fundamentals still good...but I doubt that growth will accelerate lor...

Unker u said before mar, if found another stock with better yield, can switch out mar

Ping Pong yield is based on almost 100% payout ratio

The alternative I found is on 80%...got room for special divvy and/or more divvy

What is the alternative stock? ... don't forget to look at dividend & free cash flow growth..

This post has been edited by gark: Nov 16 2013, 10:15 AM

Gambling stock...not the Vincent Tan one

It behaves somewhat like a REIT lor...regular divvy, committed payout of min. 80%...

Growth? Stagnant to minimal lor...

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Nov 16 2013, 10:16 AM

Magnum...! Hahah I am also looking at it previously.. looks interesting about 4.5% divvy but special dividend chance extremely slim

This post has been edited by gark: Nov 16 2013, 10:18 AM

4.5%? But it looks on track to pay 5 sen per quarter wor...

20 sen / 3.24 = 0.0617

Their dividend policy is 80%-85% of net earnings.

TTM earnings is 18.6 cents, current price is 3.24

Dividend = 18.6 x 0.85 = 15.81 cents

15.81/324 x100= 4.87%

Previous divvy payment...
Dividend 2013 = 15 cents
Dividend 2012 = 16 cents
Dividend 2011 = 15 cents

P/S Magnum don't pay all 4 Quarters 1... they do skip a Q here and there

Unless you get extra special 5c divvy then will be higher for this year.

This post has been edited by gark: Nov 16 2013, 10:25 AM

*Ouch*

Tonight go do an in-depth look into its financials and past dividends...

Wait, they've just divested their non-core stuff, only recently became a focused gambling unit. Past cannot be relied on

Yeah but earnings never lie right... If they earn 18 cents, buy pay 20 cents it cannot go on forever...

Anyway interesting stock.. I am also looking at it .. it is almost reit like but i prefer at least > 5% as the earnings not stable like reit

This post has been edited by gark: Nov 16 2013, 10:29 AM

Earnings may go up and down.

*Puts on anal hat*

Gambling...in the long run, the House wins. And House always put the stats/probability in such ways that occasional big payouts will not harm their profitability

Punters will only grow...young ppl learn to buy 4D...old ppl buy until enter coffin

The latest Q report is already divested their other earnings...so it is reflective of future earnings.. but net 4.6 cents only.

Younger people more educated... buy less 4D.. cause calculate odds against them unless those 'abeng'

This post has been edited by gark: Nov 16 2013, 10:35 AM

*Ahem*

My subordinate is a super dooper kiamsiap typical accounts guy

But he buys 4D like a religion

Haha surely every batch got oddball 1... general trend leh.. you got see or not magnum earnings has been sliding slowly slowly for the past 5 years.

But as long you not expecting >6% divvy it is a good cash flow stock to keep

MULTIPLE PROPOSALS

(I) PROPOSED SHARE SPLIT;

(II) PROPOSED BONUS ISSUE; AND

(III) PROPOSED AMENDMENTS

(COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO AS THE “PROPOSALS”)

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1468421

Good news!

You want liquidity, we give you liquidity

No. of shares from 120m become 800m.

Formula : (Your cost) / 5 / 4 x 3 = Your new cost

After split gonna become penny liao of based on today's closing price

More room for vroom vroom

Ehh.. i thought you sold all switch to magnum de? Should have kept de.. potential for another 20-30% gain..

Keep good stocks always by your side, no need to hurry take profit one..as long valuation is still ok.

This post has been edited by gark: Nov 22 2013, 11:03 AM

I sold 1/3 only

So continue keep or gonna dispose more?

Keep lor, it's % of my entire portfolio not that significant, kaboom also no scared, plenty of paper gain to be taken away (*touch wood*)

So stock investing more rewarding than UT right... that why i no longer keep MY UT.. only left international

This post has been edited by gark: Nov 22 2013, 11:48 AM

Quality stocks...just keep and hold as long as fundamentals and required yield intact.

If u invest thru UT...good stocks but bcos the fund manager wanna do window dressing, temporary price weakness but he dump. Paper loss becomes permanent realised loss

I also have no MY UT fund.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Nov 22 2013, 11:58 AM

Touch 6.40 yesterday which is 52 weeks high

Why need to divide 4?

Should be

A x 5 / 3 x 4

A being your current no. of shares.

E.g.
Now holding 600 shares
No. of shares u will hold after the exercise would be
600 x 5 / 3 x 4 = 4,000

But why 4 is there?

There are 2 parts to the proposed exercise.

(1) Division of 50 sen shares into 5 x 10 sen shares
(2) Bonus issue of 1 new share for every 3 (new shares) u hold

So,

(1) 600 becomes 3,000 by split
(2) 3,000 becomes 4,000 by adding 1,000 bonus shares (A/3*4)

Just basic maths, bro

Btw even after yesterday's mega rally, yield STILL decent.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Nov 23 2013, 12:44 PM

That makes sense. I keep thinking how come the 4 is there. Well, I think I don't have to monitor this stocks liao since at the current price I'm 200% paper gain, so after all those divide and conquer thing, I think it will make mine about 50% paper loss, should I not change the initial investment value + update the new units. I think this is the only stock that give bonus this year for me

Don't worry, just watch this space, if the fundamentals and/or dividend yield drops, I will update here

Bro, u did not enter APOLLO? It's also very strong this year.

Thanks. Really good that Hupseng welcome me back to Malaysia with bonus issues and split

RM6.60

The rally in recent days is crazy

Profit taking? gark says growth stagnant wor...

share split and bonus issue maby

7.00 now! if maintain at 25 sen divvy, that's only 3.6% divvy yield...dispose and take profit?

Crazy this counter

hup seng. what is happening now?

This post has been edited by tstan8_8: Jan 2 2014, 04:14 PM

dropped back, buyers at 6.82 now

I too slow to sell at 7.01

your entry price / cost?

>100% paper gain already

then just sell lor, don't be so greedy